Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

A very potent step, if it were indeed done. I wonder why not already, though?

Isn't it obvious? Because Iran is not a nuclear state.

I wouldn't have played stupidly like the Ayatollahs of Iran. I would've never signed a surrender treaty like the JCPOA In the first place.

Iran had 13 tons of LEU and hundreds of kilograms HALEU in 2013. We handed it over for no good reason. Had Iran gone nuclear in 2013, we would've had over 50 tactical nukes by now, and a couple of good strategic nukes too. And we had already unlocked the plutonium path as well.

 

[VCheng]

No.

What would be unleashed though would be just as hellish.

"If wishes were horses ... ... "

Any step taken must be taken with due consideration to all the ramifications thereof, of course.

 

[VCheng]

Isn't it obvious? Because Iran is not a nuclear state.

I wouldn't have played stupidly like the Ayatollahs of Iran. I would've never signed a surrender treaty like the JCPOA In the first place.

Iran had 13 tons of LEU and hundreds of kilograms HALEU in 2013. We handed it over for no good reason. Had Iran gone nuclear in 2013, we would've had over 50 tactical nukes by now, and a couple of good strategic nukes too. And we had already unlocked the plutonium path as well.

Well, that is all in the past now. We are living in the present, not the past. What happens next is what we all should concentrate on.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

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This is exactly what the physical control enables that system of systems approach lacks. Unless everyone is playing ball the system of systems collapses. The reason why Iran can do what it is doing is because that is physical and real... actual oil and navigation... they can be paid in anything in lieu of goods and services. A trade is always mutually beneficial... it is because US has leveraged it's fiat one too many times... in a system where only ONE walks away with real goods and the other with an instrument that can simply become trash over night... and manipulators use that to keep extracting more for themselves and limiting access to the rest... to keep the demand steady.

Anyways, Iran can over time mandate all transactions passing through the straits be held in a different coin altogether and sanction anyone using US instruments... financial or otherwise. Because of the real world consequences it will become enough impetus for those short on dollars first and later one holding large worthless bags of it...
Remember US swapped it's debt with actual money... and made the world use it's inflation by mandating purchase of oil in the same...
Iran has much more leverage than one gives credit.

 

[ShapurII]

No.

What would be unleashed though would be just as hellish.

It depends. If our neighbors see that happen, I'm sure fear will discourage them from allowing the US to use their territories and air space. I'm sure they know that if Iran nukes them, the US and Israel won't mind. So, why risk their entire existence over that?

The US will end up in a situation where it won't be able to attack Iran from the sea and it won't be able to use our neighboring countries. Then I would offer the US good terms for a potential normalization of ties.

It will be up to the US to continue a pointless costly war or take a deal which benefits the US and opens the possibility of hundreds of billions of dollars in trade.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Orange bufoon back to taking kharg island tonight.
And Om Shanti to the three indian sailors who died.

 

[SecularNationalist]

IRI’s timidity quickly led to threats of an all-out attack and a ground invasion. Unless the IRGC finally learns its lesson, ignores the government, and takes action to defend the country, Iran as a nation will truly cease to exist.

Calm down. It's just another dog and pony show by that isreali puppet in the white house. The possibility of a full scale invasion and destruction of Iran is now very slim. Yes slim bcz they have realized that they cannot defeat Iran militarily.

 

[RedRock]

Post from Armourdesia Military Hardware

Iranian authorities found electronic equipment in Lavasan, northeast of Tehran, allegedly used to assist Israeli air operations from within the country.

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Some random youtube post, if fake please remove it
Is this true, Iranians finding electronic equipment(basically solar panels) up in the mountains of tehran and saying israelis used this equipment for airstrikes. If it's true Iranians really need to clean up house, too many traitors still in their midst

 

[Mobius]

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[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

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So, in this he's stating the obvious. The straits give the power that US never really had to consider... it was a default setting.

No one questioned it... and now there is no way out of it... as I said ... reality of the defeat will dawn upon everyone soon enough and it's ramifications are already playing out in real world.
Oil is running out...
So is the time cushion to avert the inevitable. A dotard clown would never have known that... though he might have been lying about him not knowing that Iran would retaliate on every US base in the region... par for the course for a habitual liar.

 

[030292]

I bet orange buffoon didnt even know there was a place called kharg island until some zionist shill in white house planted this idea in his pea sized brain.

 

[ShapurII]

Incorrect. Iran is here to stay. It will survive this war, 100%.

I agree with his assessment actually.

Iran will cease to exist in its present form if this war doesn't stop.
Of course, Iran as a land with human beings settled on it will not cease to exist or disappear overnight, but Iran as a nation will cease to exist.

What will remain of Iran if all of our power plants, bridges, dams, refineries, steel and aluminum production facilities get hit by the US? What will remain of Iran if Iran is cut off from the international waters?

The threats that the US is making against Iran are of existential nature, justifying a pre-emptive nuclear strike on the US Navy in my opinion.

 

[Meengla]

Iran needs to be clear on both a ceasefire, and a full withdrawal from Lebanon in their language. So far, I have only seen the ceasefire word.

'Ceasefire' on all fronts. They are clear.

 

[Immortals]

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