Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

Okay, this is on topic: According to you, it is in China's geopolitical interest to help this present war on Iran to go on in which Iranian bear the brunt of the casualties and damage to infrastructure, so that it can remain insulated.

So if China fights USA by proxy to the last Iranian, it is okay. According to you. Okay, then.

what "okay then" ? China didn't start this war, America did and to expect the Chinese to sit on the sidelines and wait for their turn to get hit is nonsensical. There is a difference between those who CHOOSE to adopt an extremely aggressive foreign policy, like America in the Mideast and those who react to it.

As Meengla mentioned, China hasn't even gone all in , it is merely buying Russian and Iranian oil and hence keeping their government's afloat.

 

[Cancerous Tumor]

3 countries did not thank Pakistan for the peace deal:

- Israel
- UAE
- India

historic moment, even if deal fails in few days this one will remains in mind of many people.

 

[FUB]

America’s greatest ally

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[Kyussis]

The US carried out over 13,000 airstrikes on Iran in less than 2 months.

They bombed the country as if it was some failed state incapable of defending against the US, and you're moaning about what Trump said or didn't say?


Beat the shit of Iran?

US strikes on Iran: 13,000
Iranian strikes on US: 0

I was almost convinced Iran had nukes or maybe even ICBMs. All bluffs.

One thing I have learnt from this conflict is that the North Koreans have proven themselves to be a lot more smarter than the Iranians.

Both countries are under sanctions and both were declared Axis of Evil in January 2002.


28/10/2005: Security Council condemns Iranian president's remarks on Israel: UN News

24/09/2012: In New York, defiant Ahmadinejad says Israel will be "eliminated": Reuters



If you're going to moan and whine, then don't go around making tall claims.

How much did those 13,000 strikes cost you and what did those 13000 strikes do for you?
When in the History of humanity has a Country won a war decisively, only for it to go sit down with the country it decimated to hammer out a MOU and give financial concession to the loser?

 

[Shags101]

As I said, that is perverse. China is using others as fodder to keep itself insulated. How very noble, not.

Same could be said with how trump left the Kurds to be slaughtered in Syria very noble indeed……..and he wonders why they didn’t fall for it with Iran I think they took the weapons and money for them being left high and dry in Syria

 

[Homajon]

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[Kyussis]

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Yet most Americans will gladly crawl on their hand and knees to Suck off these Parasites like the stupid Goys that they are!!!

 

[Abdul q]

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[VCheng]

what "okay then" ? China didn't start this war, America did and to expect the Chinese to sit on the sidelines and wait for their turn to get hit is nonsensical. There is a difference between those who CHOOSE to adopt an extremely aggressive foreign policy, like America in the Mideast and those who react to it.

As Meengla mentioned, China hasn't even gone all in , it is merely buying Russian and Iranian oil and hence keeping their government's afloat.

Well, it is all geopolitics equally. Those who can be aggressive are just as justified as those who just buy oil to keep others afloat in what they do, geopolitically speaking.

So calling someone evil or unjustified is just plain silly. Geopolitically speaking, of course.

Just like Iran chose to pursue its policies when it wanted to be aggressive, and is now planning for peace when it wants. It is all good.

(That is the "okay then".)

 

[VCheng]

Clearly Iran has the means to resist

...... and yet equally clearly it is making peace.

 

[VCheng]

Same could be said with how trump left the Kurds to be slaughtered in Syria very noble indeed……..and he wonders why they didn’t fall for it with Iran I think they took the weapons and money for them being left high and dry in Syria

But that is the other war down the hall, second door on the left. Why go off topic here?

 

[krash]

China is a future target for the US, because America needs an enemy for its obese military budget and China finally realized this after Mr Trump's first term.

On the other hand the US and its proxies have been attacking the Mideast, North Africa and South Asia non-stop with war, insurgency, terrorism, economic and tech blockades and propaganda for 70 years straight. The luxury of "strategic patience" does not exist for countries in this region.

Yet, other countries in the same regions have been spared. Why is that? What has open hostility gotten the others? History has taught us this lesson thousands of times before, many times in Persia. Build yourself and you might be able to come back; assured failure Vs possibility of success.

The Chinese have always been a target, barring a handful of years. They were smart enough to keep their heads down and make something out of themselves.

This is an important lesson for the Iranians to learn, if they so decide.

And the rest of the Muslim world.

If by 'childishly romanticised notion of resistance' you're referring to Shi'ism (particularly things like the narrative of Karbala and the culture of sacrifice), then I doubt the Iranians will simply abandon this and 'learn from the Chinese' (whatever that means).

I mean the notion found from Morocco to Indonesia of glorifying fantasies of Jihad out of nothing while eating away at your own countries and societies like termites. While you are at it, leave the sectarian lenses behind and grow up. If not then keep dreaming and eating the dirt that we have been.

PS: Imam Hussain went there to gather and measure his means.

 

[Kyussis]

...... and yet equally clearly it is making peace.

What's wrong with peace when you get it on your terms?
Are you implying that Iran is Surrendering?

 

[VCheng]

What's wrong with peace when you get it on your terms?

Are the terms known yet?

 

[tsunset]

Iran should extort the maximum amount of money they can from the US and its allies

Squeeze them until they're dry