Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ParthianLord]

US government claim they "uncovered a plot" by a 24 man "Team of Assassins and Agents" that were attempting to attack the White House with Suicide Drones during the UFC event and force the crowd to run into "Prepared Sniper positions" and mown them down

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lets see if they blame us for this supposed "Plot" Lol

 

[VCheng]

Iran should extort the maximum amount of money they can from the US and its allies

Squeeze them until they're dry

Both sides should try to get the maximum advantages they can get while giving away as little as possible. That is how it works.

 

[tsunset]

US government claim they "uncovered a plot" by a 24 man "Team of Assassins and Agents" that were attempting to attack the White House with Suicide Drones during the UFC event and force the crowd to run into "Prepared Sniper positions" and mown them down

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lets see if they blame us for this supposed "Plot" Lol

"But Iran can't attack the US"

If this wasn't uncovered it would've been a massacre

 

[ety]

The party which launches aggressions first--and often does so multiple times--has no right to complain if the victims' friends come to their aid. China is not the culprit here. We know who are. So the 'proxies' excuses to create a false equivalency is not fair. China has barely even helped Russia materially in the Ukraine war except for buying oil; had China pumped its weaponry into the war, it would have been the game changer.

Exactly, China didnt start and directly actively participate both wars in Ukraine and Iran. Now, for some Americans to blame the wars on China as guilty as the US saying they are Chinas proxy wars are just ludicrous and lying, trying to deflect US own guilt.

 

[Kyussis]

...... and yet equally clearly it is making peace.

If Iran was not able to resist the combined might of the United States and Israel, the war would be over and there would not have been a need for peace negotiations. If you are unable to grasp this very simple concept, then I can't help you!

 

[Shags101]

But that is the other war down the hall, second door on the left. Why go off topic here?

Didn’t actually go off topic at all brought up the Kurds because trump and Israel attempted to use them as boots on the ground but after they got left high and dry in Syria why would they fall for that trap again so yes very noble indeed damn I actually didn’t go off topic at all you just can’t answer it because you brought up the whole fodder and the Kurds were definitely fodder for Trump they were promised many things but got left to fend for themselves…….i mean shows you how trustworthy Trump is to his “allies”

 

[VCheng]

If Iran was not able to resist the combined might of the United States and Israel, the war would be over and there would not have been a need for peace negotiations. If you are unable to grasp this very simple concept, then I can't help you!

LOL. Let us wait to see the terms of the deal first.

 

[Professor Jiang]

I mean the notion found from Morocco to Indonesia of glorifying fantasies of Jihad out of nothing while eating away at your own countries and societies like termites. While you are at it, leave the sectarian lenses behind and grow up. If not then keep dreaming and eating the dirt that we have been.

PS: Imam Hussain went there to gather and measure his means.

You are confusing AQ ideology with calling out oppressors. In what world does Iranians chanting marg bar amrika have anything in common with Indonesian jihadi groups?

It's also very amusing when outsiders call on ordinary Iranian to STFU and stop chanting these slogans, and for the Govt to steer the people away from the calls. The only way to do this would be for the state to enforce a prohibition through censorship and violence. But I guess that flies for some people so long as you can be on good terms with the Americans and look all grown up and sensible?

As far as "sectarian lens" goes, you've completely misread my post. But clearly you have some kind of self-hatred going on, so will leave it there.

 

[VCheng]

Didn’t actually go off topic at all brought up the Kurds because trump and Israel attempted to use them as boots on the ground but after they got left high and dry in Syria why would they fall for that trap again so yes very noble indeed damn I actually didn’t go off topic at all you just can’t answer it because you brought up the whole fodder and the Kurds were definitely fodder for Trump they were promised many things but got left to fend for themselves…….i mean shows you how trustworthy Trump is to his “allies”

Fodder is fodder. Right?

 

[Optical216]

Yes, he has been really pissing on Netanyahu and Israel lately and that reflects his change of heart. Multiple public humiliations heaped on Israel and Netanyahu. But killing him won't serve the purpose because Vance would be even more harsh on Israel as the POTUS. They may need to remove all until Mike Johnson, if he is in line of succession, becomes the President. No chance for Lindsey Graham though.

they need a neo-con badly right now. Otherwise they are fked. Even trump is not stupid, he is pragmatic enough to actually break rleations with israel if shit gets bad enough

 

[ParthianLord]

"But Iran can't attack the US"

If this wasn't uncovered it would've been a massacre

most likely just bullshit or false flag attempt

 

[Watandar]

Yet, other countries in the same regions have been spared. Why is that? What has open hostility gotten the others? History has taught us this lesson thousands of times before, many times in Persia. Build yourself and you might be able to come back; assured failure Vs possibility of success.

Who has been spared ? Do you mean the GCC or Turkey or Pakistan , all of whom turned themselves into US proxies and have been dragged into one war after another ?

The Chinese have always been a target, barring a handful of years. They were smart enough to keep their heads down and make something out of themselves.

The US was busy elsewhere and grossly under-estimated China, additionally the neo-cons made a bad gamble that globalization would lead to democratization. Those are the only reasons China was able to "hide its strength and bide it's time". Else the Chinese would have been as aggressively interfered with and attacked as Mideast. The US still has these plans for China.

 

[Shags101]

Fodder is fodder. Right?

Dude for a think tank you not as smart as your pretentious behavior comes off you can’t answer a simple question because you brought up the whole proxy fodder but Trump and Israel are or were doing the same thing but I’m going to put you back on ignore if you can’t answer a simple question

 

[Watandar]

PS: Imam Hussain went there to gather and measure his means.

Aah I see what's really going on here.

 

[VCheng]

doing the same thing

They are ALL doing the same things. EQUALLY.

Those who pick and choose among them are simply showing their own prejudices and biases, that is all.

Simple. And clear.