Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BananaRepublic]

I don't know how much reconstruction help Iran will need externally after the war really ends but my guess is countries are already thinking about offering help--and making $$.



Without American direct involvement--and I mean direct involvement-- there is not much Israel can do. And the potential next Israeli PM Mr. Bennet is already talking against 'protracted wars' despite Bennet being the next biggest warmonger in Israel. Nobody can beat Netanyahu's level of warmongering even in Israel. Nobody.

Jews have no history of standing by themselves.

They have always needed an empire to beg.

But the empires have always parted violently because of their transactional nature.

Without USA, it’s questionable whether Israel can survive.

 

[unconventional]

Trump is suddenly in love with the Aye-ranians ??

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If he’s trying to play good cop-bad cop himself with Iran, someone needs to tell him that you need two people to play that game (one person plays good cop, one person plays bad cop) lol.

 

[Lulldapull]

I agree for all the others, but I have a doubt in the north Korean case.

NK weapons used in Ukraine were of such low quality that Russians politely declined to use them. And returned them with a thank you.

Terrible 155mm arty rounds and horribly unreliable Grads and the KN-25 SRBMs.

Just junk!

And plenty of vidz of captured NK soldiers with parasites in their gut due to poor living conditions and contaminated food.

 

[Meengla]

Without USA, it’s questionable whether Israel can survive.

Well, Trump himself just said that!
But how insulted the Israelis must feel these days. Trump is heaping insults upon insults on them and they are going viral and the world is laughing. Laughing!

 

[hussain0216]

Right and by now most of us here seem to know the changed dynamics in the region. I believe Netanyahu's folly of attacking Qatar was a turning point much like India's Modi attacking Pakistan in May 2025.

Dr. Vali Nasr is a great analyst and Mehdi Hassan should let him talk more and not put words in his mouth.

Because of the control the Zionists have over the U.S, the U.S has been behaving erratically and against it's own Interests

When Qatar was attacked, U.S A.D was purposely turned off

The U.S had known of the attack and facilitated it

BILLIONS and TRILLIONS spent by the GCC on U.S weapons and support immediately became worthless, because the U.S was just unreliable it was COMPLICIT

To further compound the situation, the U.S for Israel attacked Iran and the entire regions economies have been negatively effected with billions lost


If the GCC and others don't make alternative plans they are morons who can't be helped

I believe however, plans and alliances are being made and hopefully this will result in change

They should work on decoupling Israel from the U.S

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

next Israeli PM Mr. Bennet

That is almost a certainty at this point... zionists have socially engineered themselves to out compete the other in their capacity for violence... and for most of their electorate miliekowsky is not violent enough... though one with the agenda. The core of neocon project ... and in that regard what orange did is in essence hand the neocons a defeat... most of them were not on board with his presidency... which js what they've been writing about in the past decade.
It's likely that the next house and senate will have no neocon constituency... except for some incumbents if they keep their seats. A totally new chapter for zion...
Bennett is another with American background, chabadnik who's parents did Aliyah to zion... was an understudy to miliekowsky... in essence the heir to his legacy. Will aim to pull strings in the US while starting new conflicts and sabotage ops in Mideast and elsewhere...

 

[PakistanLVR]

NK weapons used in Ukraine were of such low quality that Russians politely declined to use them. And returned them with a thank you.

Terrible 155mm arty rounds and horribly unreliable Grads and the KN-25 SRBMs.

Just junk!

And plenty of vidz of captured NK soldiers with parasites in their gut due to poor living conditions and contaminated food.

With all due respect to you, your assertions about everything are flat out wrong. Very wrong.
The Ukrainians sources have stated that the NK have fought aggressively and not surrender unlike the average Russian conscript.

You think Pakistans nukes are non-existing or non-working but they have routinely saved the country from being balkanized.

You think nukes are no longer effective weapons, but the U.S. is rushing towards creating the golden dome because they fear a MAD situation in the future involving nuke warheads.

do you honestly think the U.S. or Israel would’ve dared attack like that had Iran had nuclear weapons? Additionally why did the U.S. take a softer approach vs Pakistan when Afghanistan became a proxy war.

You’re equating Indians launching air strikes on madrassas and then within hour calling for a ceasefire because they fully understand the escalation ladder that Pakistan had in its back pocket.

I get the cheerleading for what Iran has accomplished but not a single Iranian or Pakistani here thinks that not having nuclear weapons is a smart policy.
Even a few weeks back Iran in a phone conversation with Pakistan implied about testing a nuke which forced Trump to quickly understand the grave situation, but you think nukes no longer matters lol. You’re crazy af.

 

[VCheng]

If the GCC and others don't make alternative plans they are morons who can't be helped

Have any of them actually asked for any such "help" from Iran or anybody else?

As sovereign states, they are perfectly capable of deciding their national policies just as Iran and everybody else can.

 

[Meengla]

That is almost a certainty at this point... zionists have socially engineered themselves to out compete the other in their capacity for violence... and for most of their electorate miliekowsky is not violent enough... though one with the agenda. The core of neocon project ... and in that regard what orange did is in essence hand the neocons a defeat... most of them were not on board with his presidency... which js what they've been writing about in the past decade.
It's likely that the next house and senate will have no neocon constituency... except for some incumbents if they keep their seats. A totally new chapter for zion...
Bennett is another with American background, chabadnik who's parents did Aliyah to zion... was an understudy to miliekowsky... in essence the heir to his legacy. Will aim to pull strings in the US while starting new conflicts and sabotage ops in Mideast and elsewhere...

I beg to differ. No one has the cunningness, the connections with America, the ambitions, the experience like Netanyahu. Bennet maybe the next biggest warhawk in Israel but he is nowhere near as effective and ambitious like Netanyahu.
Another poster a few days ago made a long post about how Netanyahu's personality plays and outsized role in Israel and in the Middle East. It was a great post.

 

[hussain0216]

Have any of them actually asked for any such "help" from Iran or anybody else?

As sovereign states, they are perfectly capable of deciding their national policies just as Iran and everybody else can.

They are compromised and their planning was retarded

They stood buy whilst Palestinians were massacred,
They trusted the U.S who plunged their economies into turmoil for Israel

 

[VCheng]

They are compromised and their planning was retarded

They stood buy whilst Palestinians were massacred,
They trusted the U.S who plunged their economies into turmoil for Israel

So these are your views and you have the right to hold such views.

But they have a sovereign right to determine their own courses of action too, whether you agree with them or not.

 

[BananaRepublic]

They are compromised and their planning was retarded

They stood buy whilst Palestinians were massacred,
They trusted the U.S who plunged their economies into turmoil for Israel

The PGCC entities are puppets.

They have about as much independence as a Barbie doll.

Iran needs to make a choice for them otherwise US will choose warmongering for them.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I beg to differ. No one has the cunningness, the connections with America, the ambitions, the experience like Netanyahu. Bennet maybe the next biggest warhawk in Israel but he is nowhere near as effective and ambitious like Netanyahu.
Another poster a few days ago made a long post about how Netanyahu's personality plays and outsized role in Israel and in the Middle East. It was a great post.

Well, his time is up... he'll serve as the great scapegoat... as likes of Bennett put the onus of defeat on him and cause of isolation in the US. A lot of money will be pouring in to prop up candidates who can deflect direct questions. As of now... the ground is being laid to throw miliekowsky under the bus.

 

[PakistanLVR]

With all due respect to you, your assertions about everything are flat out wrong. Very wrong.
The Ukrainians sources have stated that the NK have fought aggressively and not surrender unlike the average Russian conscript.

You think Pakistans nukes are non-existing or non-working but they have routinely saved the country from being balkanized.

You think nukes are no longer effective weapons, but the U.S. is rushing towards creating the golden dome because they fear a MAD situation in the future involving nuke warheads.

do you honestly think the U.S. or Israel would’ve dared attack like that had Iran had nuclear weapons? Additionally why did the U.S. take a softer approach vs Pakistan when Afghanistan became a proxy war.

You’re equating Indians launching air strikes on madrassas and then within hour calling for a ceasefire because they fully understand the escalation ladder that Pakistan had in its back pocket.

I get the cheerleading for what Iran has accomplished but not a single Iranian or Pakistani here thinks that not having nuclear weapons is a smart policy.
Even a few weeks back Iran in a phone conversation with Pakistan implied about testing a nuke which forced Trump to quickly understand the grave situation, but you think nukes no longer matters lol. You’re crazy af.

Oh look another nation turning to nuclear weapon

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-17/finland-lifts-nuclear-weapons-ban-as-security-risks-grow

 

[Abdul q]

The change of bought up Epstein islanders about pusserelis is because they know the public perception has changed with midterms around the corner…. So, they’re playing along till election and cycle will repeat… remember its always been Epstein islanders in power in occupied state of America