Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Flotilla]

That’s still not going to make the US honor the deal.

If they don't fullfill the Hell will unleash in all the region. In few weeks Irán has gained access to nearly all sites knocked by bomb campaign.
Persian Gulf reported that new missile bases are being built and we know drones production has just re-started. In few weels production of missiles will reach pre-war levels. So I just would be worried about Israel. Their crazy President is just cornered an he could try a nonsense bigger than starting the war.

 

[BananaRepublic]

I don't think he really means it. He wants to create leverage ahead of talks with the US:
"If you don't give us what we want, we will turn to China!"

China, Pakistan and Iran - would be a formidable defence and trading bloc.

India would be left for dust.

 

[BananaRepublic]

The Iranians will wait on the Americans to give them an opportunity to stop Israel before they do anything after the signing. The act of getting Israel to stop and pull out of Lebanon is the same as putting an end to a part of the Greater Israel project, so I am expecting some fireworks.

Israel is like Knotweed.

I don’t think it can survive without encroaching.

Either encroach or be cutdown.

Standstill is suffocation for the invasive creatures.

 

[Shags101]

Premature ejaculations, err....celebrations, seem to be a thing with some of the folks here.

To be fair I’m a pessimist I think the deal will collapse

 

[BananaRepublic]

Nukes never deterred Iran from retaliating.

Nukes never deterred Pakistan from retaliating.

Nukes never deterred Ukraine from retaliating.

And believe me, when and if the time comes, nukes will not deter Japan or SK from punking fat kim in no time.

Fat Kim doesn’t care about his people.

He won’t hesitate to use it.

South Korea and Japan are permanently shafted.

That’s the price of getting USA involved in their affairs.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

To be fair I’m a pessimist I think the deal will collapse

I always try to remain optimistic. Somehow though, my pessimistic side always presents good arguments. Just like I told some buddies of mine in '91. They all laughed when I said we'd be going back to the Gulf.

 

[BonPlan]

Aren’t Israeli fighters just US fighters with a different flag on? What could they contribute without US freebies?

They are able to produce their own MBT, their own SAM and anti missile systems (among the best of the world if not the best).
They were ready to produce their own fighter (Lavi) until USA, seeing a harsh competitor, give them full access to their fighters.
So don't worry for them.
Israel has nothing to demonstrate about their ability to fight.

(note that their opponents, of the past and of the present, are armed by russia, china, iran)

 

[Meengla]

And can the Bangladeshi PM get off his backside and talk to Iran. Bangladesh has a thriving home appliance sector - Iranians are in need of basic luxuries.

I don't know how much reconstruction help Iran will need externally after the war really ends but my guess is countries are already thinking about offering help--and making $$.

Persian Gulf reported that new missile bases are being built and we know drones production has just re-started. In few weels production of missiles will reach pre-war levels. So I just would be worried about Israel. Their crazy President is just cornered an he could try a nonsense bigger than starting the war.

Without American direct involvement--and I mean direct involvement-- there is not much Israel can do. And the potential next Israeli PM Mr. Bennet is already talking against 'protracted wars' despite Bennet being the next biggest warmonger in Israel. Nobody can beat Netanyahu's level of warmongering even in Israel. Nobody.

 

[BonPlan]

And believe me, when and if the time comes, nukes will not deter Japan or SK from punking fat kim in no time.

I agree for all the others, but I have a doubt in the north Korean case.

 

[BananaRepublic]

I don't know how much reconstruction help Iran will need externally after the war really ends but my guess is countries are already thinking about offering help--and making $$.



Without American direct involvement--and I mean direct involvement-- there is not much Israel can do. And the potential next Israeli PM Mr. Bennet is already talking against 'protracted wars' despite Bennet being the next biggest warmonger in Israel. Nobody can beat Netanyahu's level of warmongering even in Israel. Nobody.

Jews have no history of standing by themselves.

They have always needed an empire to beg.

But the empires have always parted violently because of their transactional nature.

Without USA, it’s questionable whether Israel can survive.

 

[unconventional]

Trump is suddenly in love with the Aye-ranians ??

If he’s trying to play good cop-bad cop himself with Iran, someone needs to tell him that you need two people to play that game (one person plays good cop, one person plays bad cop) lol.

 

[Lulldapull]

I agree for all the others, but I have a doubt in the north Korean case.

NK weapons used in Ukraine were of such low quality that Russians politely declined to use them. And returned them with a thank you.

Terrible 155mm arty rounds and horribly unreliable Grads and the KN-25 SRBMs.

Just junk!

And plenty of vidz of captured NK soldiers with parasites in their gut due to poor living conditions and contaminated food.

 

[Meengla]

Without USA, it’s questionable whether Israel can survive.

Well, Trump himself just said that!
But how insulted the Israelis must feel these days. Trump is heaping insults upon insults on them and they are going viral and the world is laughing. Laughing!

 

[hussain0216]

Right and by now most of us here seem to know the changed dynamics in the region. I believe Netanyahu's folly of attacking Qatar was a turning point much like India's Modi attacking Pakistan in May 2025.

Dr. Vali Nasr is a great analyst and Mehdi Hassan should let him talk more and not put words in his mouth.

Because of the control the Zionists have over the U.S, the U.S has been behaving erratically and against it's own Interests

When Qatar was attacked, U.S A.D was purposely turned off

The U.S had known of the attack and facilitated it

BILLIONS and TRILLIONS spent by the GCC on U.S weapons and support immediately became worthless, because the U.S was just unreliable it was COMPLICIT

To further compound the situation, the U.S for Israel attacked Iran and the entire regions economies have been negatively effected with billions lost


If the GCC and others don't make alternative plans they are morons who can't be helped

I believe however, plans and alliances are being made and hopefully this will result in change

They should work on decoupling Israel from the U.S

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

next Israeli PM Mr. Bennet

That is almost a certainty at this point... zionists have socially engineered themselves to out compete the other in their capacity for violence... and for most of their electorate miliekowsky is not violent enough... though one with the agenda. The core of neocon project ... and in that regard what orange did is in essence hand the neocons a defeat... most of them were not on board with his presidency... which js what they've been writing about in the past decade.
It's likely that the next house and senate will have no neocon constituency... except for some incumbents if they keep their seats. A totally new chapter for zion...
Bennett is another with American background, chabadnik who's parents did Aliyah to zion... was an understudy to miliekowsky... in essence the heir to his legacy. Will aim to pull strings in the US while starting new conflicts and sabotage ops in Mideast and elsewhere...