Pakistan Army : Unmanned / Manned Air Assets

Pakistan has been very slient and secret while purchasing drones, new weaponry, and equipments. Indiatoady and Husdantantime reports Pakistan is purchasing heavily since after 2025 May and specially drones and anti radar system.
 
Pakistan has been very slient and secret while purchasing drones, new weaponry, and equipments. Indiatoady and Husdantantime reports Pakistan is purchasing heavily since after 2025 May and specially drones and anti radar system.

Same with India - we have not heard much of new procurements from India following Sindoor.
 
It comes down to operational need and how urgent it is. It takes time to develop and certify these systems and then operationally deploy them. ASELSAN has done forward planning years ago to develop this system, so it makes sense for now.

If the Pakistani military-industrial complex had any forward planning for product development, then they would have built an equivalent solution aswell.

( I am just surprised that they did not go for a Chinese based solution ! ).
we could have made them by now if we started after may
 
Same with India - we have not heard much of new procurements from India following Sindoor.
India reports that Pakistan had 360 view of India military location and installations via new Satellite so most of them will exposed to them.
 
we could have made them by now if we started after may

I am afraid engineering does not move that fast. What ASELSAN has is a depth of intellectual property it can draw on to develop that product quickly and that kind of intellectual property Pakistan has only started to develop for itself now.
 
I am afraid engineering does not move that fast. What ASELSAN has is a depth of intellectual property it can draw on to develop that product quickly and that kind of intellectual property Pakistan has only started to develop for itself now.
What are you talking about? What is this intellectual property needed to modify RCWS systems to shoot down small drones that Pakistan doesn't possess?
 
Actually a good solution. Something we can scale relatively easily. 3D print files are available online.


Question is if there's a local solution already in works @Ak01
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Good start but need to solution capable of higher speed.

Plus this was shown in the May video by ISPR:

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Sorry if wrong thread, but any news on Zulu's or is it a lost cause. You would think we would get it by now or even permission for atak with US engines since he is after all trumps favourite FM
 
Sorry if wrong thread, but any news on Zulu's or is it a lost cause. You would think we would get it by now or even permission for atak with US engines since he is after all trumps favourite FM
The Zulus are best let go - unless they are given the same way as they were ordered.
But the equipment on them is outdated by what PA needs and they need funds to be made ready and initiated - to make up for lost time and knowledge - which frankly PA doesn’t have resources to spare for.

However, stranger things have happened
 
The Zulus are best let go - unless they are given the same way as they were ordered.
But the equipment on them is outdated by what PA needs and they need funds to be made ready and initiated - to make up for lost time and knowledge - which frankly PA doesn’t have resources to spare for.

However, stranger things have happened
Wasn’t there some kind of signal vis a vi the US ambassador’s speech at the Pakistani Embassy in DC, a couple of weeks ago, with regardless to Arms sales?

I ask because, while it would take a lot of resources to induct, if relations do a turn to allow the transfer of those paid for those 15 AH-1Zs, Then whose to say Pakistan can extend that opening and try to seek hot transfers of excess defense articles (within the Trump administration’s term) , which after some refurbishment could fill out the aspiration of Army Aviation, within our budget costs.

Current at the boneyard, there are 14 AH-1S (good for use as spares or to augment for our ~45 AH-1F fleet), 19 AH-1Z just retired from the USMC (with another 8 somewhere else) and 100 AH-1W. (The Turkish Cirit has been certified on the AH-1W, so it could make it an ideal platform for shooting down shahed style drones, in support of our Saudi Allies, should things flare up again)

This is also not to mention 17 upgraded AH-1F (to the T-129 standard) with the Bahraini Air Force, which could be sought. Jordan has another 12 upgraded AH-1F (plus possibly another 20 more non-upgraded AH-1F in their stocks). Turkey may also have up to 32 AH-1F in various states of upgrade in their stocks as well.

That covers the attack choppers. On the transport side, at the boneyard, there are 21 UH-1Y (plus 8 somewhere else, also just retired from the USMC), and 49 UH-1N. Pakistan already has 25 Bell 412EP, so refurbished Hueys could fit into Army Aviation with some TLC.

I’m not saying all or even most of these aircraft could be brought to full service, but with some diplomacy, it can’t hurt to go window shopping and if the option is open… spend some diplomatic currency if this seems a worthy of our doctrine, especially in COIN. Which, IMHO, will need to be stepped up as developments along the Iranian border (vis a vi 3rd party agitation may pick up; support for the BLA, et.al. )

Considering these birds would be more suited for the COIN role, it could be marketed at support in the CT role.

Summary of what could be out there, including what we paid for already:
42 AH-1Z
95 AH-1F
100 AH-W
29 UH-1Y
49 UH-1N

IMHO, If we could pick up just the 100 AH-1W and all 78 transports, all twin engines and more likely to be survivable, put them through heavy refurbishment and modest comms, sensor, defenses and Weapons upgrades, it would go a long way in our COIN force.
 
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