Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[tsunset]

Iran should invade Uganda and take their lands

 

[Meengla]

The genocide was already in place, but the war in Iran and its failure will change the face of the middle east and it has accelerated the demise of Israel's reputation and influence on the USA itself directly. On balance ( and I appreciate a lot of Iranians have died unfortunately and a lot of economic damage to Iran, so I know the depth of what I am about to say ) is this outcome better for long term peace in the middle east, or not ? Was it worth the cost? Iran may have broken the deadlock on the sanctions that were throttling the economy, abraham accords are dead, new security framework and alliance is being built that sees Israel as the threat to the region and not Iran, etc..

What is almost certain to happen is what a real Professor Pape has been saying vs the fake Professor Jiang has been saying (3rd World War).

 

[hussain0216]

Iran may have gambled on Hezb surviving against Israel independently. In fact, not only surviving but inflicting critical harm to Israel's war machine. Hezb are more than capable.

Of course, Israeli "buffer zone" creation in Lebanese lands will remain a problem for which the solution is unclear, unless USA finds some way to enforce their withdrawal.

As long as Hezbollah has access to FPVs and ATGMs then the buffer zone Israel is trying to create is more of a trap then a security zone

The area isnt massive
Israel forces don't have much safe areas
They are sitting ducks and they will lose multiple men and equipment each day which is unsustainable especially as they are the occupational forces


This is why they are trying to force Hezbollah capitulation
Where Hezbollah stops fighting
They agree to a cease-fire BUT Israel keeps the security buffer zone

It's vital Hezbollah doesn't stop until Israel is completely out of Lebanon

 

[Kyussis]

With all due respect to you, your assertions about everything are flat out wrong. Very wrong.
The Ukrainians sources have stated that the NK have fought aggressively and not surrender unlike the average Russian conscript.

You think Pakistans nukes are non-existing or non-working but they have routinely saved the country from being balkanized.

You think nukes are no longer effective weapons, but the U.S. is rushing towards creating the golden dome because they fear a MAD situation in the future involving nuke warheads.

do you honestly think the U.S. or Israel would’ve dared attack like that had Iran had nuclear weapons? Additionally why did the U.S. take a softer approach vs Pakistan when Afghanistan became a proxy war.

You’re equating Indians launching air strikes on madrassas and then within hour calling for a ceasefire because they fully understand the escalation ladder that Pakistan had in its back pocket.

I get the cheerleading for what Iran has accomplished but not a single Iranian or Pakistani here thinks that not having nuclear weapons is a smart policy.
Even a few weeks back Iran in a phone conversation with Pakistan implied about testing a nuke which forced Trump to quickly understand the grave situation, but you think nukes no longer matters lol. You’re crazy af.

Iran just proved that It didn't need nukes to defeat 2 Nuclear armed enemies without the need of Nuclear weapons. Please don't assume that "not a single Iranian here thinks that not having nuclear weapons is a smart policy" because you are mistaken.

 

[Pakistan First]

Iran should invade Uganda and take their lands

Uganda is de-facto dictatorship. The president son is Chief of army staff and his remarks not neccessarily represent wishes of Ugandan people. So why go against whole country just hire mercenaries and assassinate that SOB.

Btw, Iran got capabilities in its own region. It lacks power projection capabilities to go overseas in mass numbers with tanks / choppers / aircrafts and all the gear to invade other nations.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Iran should invade Uganda and take their lands

They should all move to Greenland. It would be perfect for them. A Self contained Island with no land neighbours and no local population of any substance/size.

What is needed is an island in the middle of nowhere, no neighbours that can ever pose a "security threat", to the "chosen people" ...

I am sure if we look, an island can be found somewhere..

 

[hussain0216]

USA may be buying time for a land invasion perhaps? I heard the numbers of American troops on Iranian border has increased a lot. Will have to see what happens next but Iran will have plenty of time to prepare as well.

What's harmed the U.S isn't the military threat

Although iran is far more capable of defending itself then most countries and it's ability to hit back and hit vital infrastructure is much better

The real weapon is the ECONOMIC FALLOUT from any conflict with Iran

The consequences of multiple economies suddenly going off line
The oil supply being effected
The fertilizer supply being effected
The effect on U.S debt and Bond market etc


This is what the U.S can't bare
So the U.S has realised how economically destructive this war can be and with the U.S 40 TRILLION in debt it's unsustainable



So fundamentally as bloodthirsty as the Americans can be, they can't afford to keep coming back to this conflict


The Israelis will do everything to drag the U.S back and their may be more exchanges, but no more long wars

 

[Kyussis]

IF Iran has already won this war, as many claim, then it will have no problem making one quickly. When can we expect the Big Bang Party?

Why would Iran need nukes if they have already defeated their enemies without nukes?

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Miriam Adelson is not the only Zionist upset with Trump. Hahahahahaha!!
Guys: Never underestimate America's ability and willingness to adapt and change!

Top Trump Donor Miriam Adelson’s Newspaper Runs Scathing Open Letter to Prez: ‘You Failed’

An Israeli newspaper owned by Trump megadonor Miriam Adelson is attacking the president over his actions in the Iran war, accusing him of "betraying" Israel and saying he has "failed."

www.mediaite.com

An Israeli newspaper owned and published by Donald Trump megadonor Miriam Adelson attacked the president on Friday in open letter about his Iran peace agreement, accusing him of “betraying” Israel and declaring he has “failed.”

With the scathing headline, “You could have been the greatest president of all, but you failed,” Danny Zaken wrote directly to Trump in a letter published in Israel Hayom — Israel’s most widely distributed paper. Zaken argued to Trump that he “may be remembered forever as the president who brought about America’s humiliation.” He wrote:

Well, perhaps then the President is doing the right thing.

 

[925boy]

Some people were saying the US was completely immune to the Strait being closed because it has so much oil - so much so that it would in fact benefit from this situation the longer it continued!

Well ..reality is truth and US emptying it's SPR to keep global oil prices is a bit pound wise penny foolish because it increases national security risks and is hard to fill back up. 1 more foolish move by the US govt and itd empire will disappear.

**Remember, I am not anti US, I am anti stupidity.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Well ..reality is truth and US emptying it's SPR to keep global oil prices is a bit pound wise penny foolish because it increases national security risks and is hard to fill back up. 1 more foolish move by the US govt and itd empire will disappear.

**Remember, I am not anti US, I am anti stupidity.

When it comes to the SPR, the most disgusting thing is the Democrats playing both sides of the fence with this.

 

[925boy]

Once UN sanctions are removed on Iran, Pakistan Iran trade will increase, we will build the pipeline, I only hope it be Iran Pakistan China pipeline, Gwadar and Chahabar must be connected to CPEC, bring Iran on board one road belt. Once all this is done, there is nothing that can stop China Pakistan Iran alliance.

1. Focus on your country
2. The only country currently preventing a China Iran Pakistan alliance is Pakistan.

Btw when you say "Iran should stop threatening IS and Israel with its words" does international law allow attacks in response to nations threatening words? Also Trump had threatened Iran and said mean words to Iran, so why are you not telling US to toke down that negative rhetoric towards Iran? Stop your double standards!! (Cuz sometimes,honestly, you have some posts that could be A grade..but at some point in your post, you make bad and naive irrelevant points ,which make your posts more like C grade- respectfully)

 

[Meengla]

When it comes to the SPR, the most disgusting thing is the Democrats playing both sides of the fence with this.

Right. Goddamn politicians the world over!!

 

[maverick]

you will all see, soon parity in battlefield will start taking place, and Israel will up the ante by using tactical nuclear bombs to wipe out populations... This is only the beginning of crazy future ahead.

 

[Meengla]

Well, perhaps then the President is doing the right thing.

Trump is. He is pushed to 'do the right thing' because of how this war progressed, but he is: America First. And he is going to face the ultimate political and media storm any American President could face because the Israel agents in America are far more entrenched and powerful then they were a few decades ago.
But Trump has the authority and the charisma to prevail over the domestic opposition especially IF the Democrats don't cynically try to oppose him.