JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

[MastanKhan]

The block-1 was BVR capable from the first production unit - the issue was not Radar or otherwise to not seeing aircraft with missiles but more so along the lines of stock procurement and storage. Your information is incorrect and unfounded.

Hi,

Dog fight & merge specialist---my information is correct---. First batch JF17's were not BVR capable---regardless of whatever reason there was---.

 

[MastanKhan]

I have not seen a single credible post by @MastanKhan till date. He's known to write stuff out of his butt. Block 1's are BVR capable. Its not done recently or even in 2015. Its right from the start (2010). Remember we are talking about Block-1s and not talking about its development / super 7s or even the prototypes. We are talking about around 3 squadrons of block-1s.

Here's the news link to prove it:

Weapon Integration Underway On JF-17 | Aviation Week

The Pakistan air force is in the process of integrating the Chinese PL-12/SD-10 medium-range, radar-guided air-to-air missile on its JF-17 light fighter aircraft. The Chengdu FC-1/JF-17 is in production in Pakistan, and two of the aircraft were on static display at the show. Test rounds of the...

aviationweek.com

and here's the video of JF-17 first intl airshow in 2010. The static display showing SD-10s:

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Its quite possible very first units may not be integrated with SD-10s. Remember the very first batch that PAF received was of 08 units. But nobody is talking about the first few units. You guys are talking about "Block-1" as a whole. So factually that statement is ABSOLUTELY incorrect that JF-17s Block-1s are / were not BVR capable. If someone wants to talk about first 8 units then they have to specify that.

Hi,

I pis-sed you off---didn't I---. You are not the first one.

JF17 blk1 forst batch was not bvr capable regardless of the reason---. Argue with me as much as you want to---.

 

[MirageV3ff]

@Deino needed some clarity regarding this image. Apparently it's JF-17 with RD-93MA?

 

[Ak01]

Hi,

Dog fight & merge specialist---my information is correct---. First batch JF17's were not BVR capable---regardless of whatever reason there was---.

Hi,

I pis-sed you off---didn't I---. You are not the first one.

JF17 blk1 forst batch was not bvr capable regardless of the reason---. Argue with me as much as you want to---.

ur one foot in the grave uncle, a little humility when wrong wouldnt kill you...your age will do that first

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Metal 0-1]

Hi,

Dog fight & merge specialist---my information is correct---. First batch JF17's were not BVR capable---regardless of whatever reason there was---.

Gramps strike again..

 

[Pakistan First]

Hi,

I am pretty sure that the BLK 1 was not BVR capable---. It came as a ground strike aircraft and most of the older members of the forum at that time were shocked including myself---.

Hi,

I pis-sed you off---didn't I---. You are not the first one.

JF17 blk1 forst batch was not bvr capable regardless of the reason---. Argue with me as much as you want to---.

So you switched from JF-17 "Block-1" not BVR capable to "first" batch not being BVR capable after seeing links and video from my post but won't muster enough courage to accept your mistakes. Even for the first batch there is no hard evidence that it was not BVR capable. Anyways, its a futile discussion to do with an aged jerk who just few days ago showed his intellect lecturing China that it should have gone for Taiwan during Pakistan-india 4 day skirmish. That statement sums up your intellect and world view. Cheers : )

 

[MastanKhan]

So you switched from JF-17 "Block-1" not BVR capable to "first" batch not being BVR capable after seeing links and video from my post but won't muster enough courage to accept your mistakes. Even for the first batch there is no hard evidence that it was not BVR capable. Anyways, its a futile discussion to do with an aged jerk who just few days ago showed his intellect lecturing China that it should have gone for Taiwan during Pakistan-india 4 day skirmish. That statement sums up your intellect and world view. Cheers : )

Hi,

Bhai jan---tusi mootar wichoon macchian pharna chhad dayooo---.

I don't like you either youngman---so let us leave it at that---.

 

[Deino]

@Deino needed some clarity regarding this image. Apparently it's JF-17 with RD-93MA?
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Apparently? Based on what?

 

[Oscar]

Hi,

YOU SPEAK---. How are the 1 on 1 dog fights and merges going on---.

Please provide context for your rambling here.
The question was on whether block-1s are purely WVR due to SD-10s not being integrated which is incorrect.

 

[Oscar]

Maybe you're right. The first few did not come with qualified SD10A integration; that was done later. Nevertheless, that is past and it matters none. We have JF17, all blocks are BVR compatible, and Blk3 is an IAF killer with AESA, SPJ and PL15.

I have not seen a single credible post by @MastanKhan till date. He's known to write stuff out of his butt. Block 1's are BVR capable. Its not done recently or even in 2015. Its right from the start (2010). Remember we are talking about Block-1s and not talking about its development / super 7s or even the prototypes. We are talking about around 3 squadrons of block-1s.

Here's the news link to prove it:

Weapon Integration Underway On JF-17 | Aviation Week

The Pakistan air force is in the process of integrating the Chinese PL-12/SD-10 medium-range, radar-guided air-to-air missile on its JF-17 light fighter aircraft. The Chengdu FC-1/JF-17 is in production in Pakistan, and two of the aircraft were on static display at the show. Test rounds of the...

aviationweek.com

and here's the video of JF-17 first intl airshow in 2010. The static display showing SD-10s:

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Its quite possible very first units may not be integrated with SD-10s. Remember the very first batch that PAF received was of 08 units. But nobody is talking about the first few units. You guys are talking about "Block-1" as a whole. So factually that statement is ABSOLUTELY incorrect that JF-17s Block-1s are / were not BVR capable. If someone wants to talk about first 8 units then they have to specify that.

The JF-17 had SBP of which numbers were 8 - while serving as the article pieces for Block-1 were not truly put into operational service other than on and off testing with units and integration into PAF ecosystem. In the meantime PT-4-6 remained in Chengdu for testing so they would complete SD-10 integration trials and so on - then it would roll into the serial production Block-1s which were operational with SD-10s day 1.

So anyone making "aadha teetar, aadha batiar" statements is looking for importance and nothing more.