Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Viet]

Once a dog, always like to be dog. They need someone to spank on their butts.

That’s weird. But where is China’s soft power?
the Russians will never learn soft power, same same Iran. That’s the most mysterious for me. This endless bloodshed sucks.
If you think more spankings help, then you are welcome.

 

[ety]

That’s weird. But where is China’s soft power?
the Russians never learn soft power, same same Iran. That’s the most mysterious for me. This endless bloodshed sucks.
If you think more spankings help then you are welcome.

They like EU, Japan and SK like to be spanked or bullied by sugar coated daddy Uncle Sam.

 

[BHAN85]

The question is why all those dogs surrounding China, Russia and Iran still running into the US. Something goes wrong?

The answer is money.

Money for corrupt vassal élites who take decisions, not for their people who are more impoverished every day

The most obvious answer is that Washington has paid the Finish leaders to add to the pressure on the Kremlin by joining NATO. I have good reason to believe this. Years ago I was in the Pentagon in the office of a very high official being offered an important appointment. I used the opportunity to ask a question about something that had long puzzled me. How, I asked, does Washington manage to get foreign governments to support Washington’s interests at the expense of their own countries? “Money,” the high Pentagon official said. “You mean foreign aid,” I said. “No,” the official said, “we give the political leaders bags full of money. We own them. They report to us.”

The Kremlin Never Learns – Paul Craig Roberts

paulcraigroberts.org

Here another source confirming that simple domination scheme over Europe elites

Corinna claims in podcast that Juan Carlos would 'return home with bags full of cash' - Spain in English

The ex-mistress of Spain's former disgraced king Juan Carlos I, the Danish-German socialite and businesswoman, Corinna zu Sayn-Wittgenstein (also known ...

www.spainenglish.com

Of course it's only the 0.1% upper part of state.

The rest 99.99% are useful idiots who must be persuaded through emotions and lies, creating narratives.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Dude, I have been saying that for years.

When the 2008 UNSC sanctions kicked in, China was the first country to close the bank accounts of Iranian students in its country. Iranian students received a 2-week notice to empty their bank accounts or else they said they would confiscate them. Not just the bank accounts of Iranian businessmen, or the official bank accounts of our central bank or related government entities, but even the accounts of Iranian students studying in China!

Guess what? Before Europe sanctions Iranian students, Russia butted in and published a list of university courses that Iranians were not allowed to participate in. Russia banned Iranian students from studying nuclear engineering and nuclear physics in Russia. They also refused to accept Iranian PhD admissions for topics that could be of dual use for Iran's nuclear and missile program.

Even in this war, Russia and China not only didn't do jack shit for Iran but actively undermined Iran's efforts to increase oil and gas prices to end the war on our terms. China nearly stopped its oil imports and Russia increased its oil output and exports. Thanks to that Zionist bitch Zelensky, Russia couldn't benefit as much as they planned to. Hopefully, Ukraine will hit more Russian energy assets.

People here who talk about Iran moving towards China after this war are delusional. Absolutely foolish, if you ask me. If anything, if Iran has truly won this war as some people claim here, we should settle our differences with the US after this war and pivot towards the US and Europe and leave the Russians and the Chinese to their fate. If we are the true winners of this war, there is no reason for us not to normalize our relations with the US and import high quality American and European goods for the right price, instead of importing Chinese goods with inflated black market prices.

Only ordinary Muslims are actively opposing US hegemony.

East Asians love US hegemony.

 

[Fatman17]

Stay on the topic. It's not about china.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Dude, I have been saying that for years.

When the 2008 UNSC sanctions kicked in, China was the first country to close the bank accounts of Iranian students in its country. Iranian students received a 2-week notice to empty their bank accounts or else they said they would confiscate them. Not just the bank accounts of Iranian businessmen, or the official bank accounts of our central bank or related government entities, but even the accounts of Iranian students studying in China!

Guess what? Before Europe sanctions Iranian students, Russia butted in and published a list of university courses that Iranians were not allowed to participate in. Russia banned Iranian students from studying nuclear engineering and nuclear physics in Russia. They also refused to accept Iranian PhD admissions for topics that could be of dual use for Iran's nuclear and missile program.

Even in this war, Russia and China not only didn't do jack shit for Iran but actively undermined Iran's efforts to increase oil and gas prices to end the war on our terms. China nearly stopped its oil imports and Russia increased its oil output and exports. Thanks to that Zionist bitch Zelensky, Russia couldn't benefit as much as they planned to. Hopefully, Ukraine will hit more Russian energy assets.

People here who talk about Iran moving towards China after this war are delusional. Absolutely foolish, if you ask me. If anything, if Iran has truly won this war as some people claim here, we should settle our differences with the US after this war and pivot towards the US and Europe and leave the Russians and the Chinese to their fate. If we are the true winners of this war, there is no reason for us not to normalize our relations with the US and import high quality American and European goods for the right price, instead of importing Chinese goods with inflated black market prices.

Do you HONESTLY believe that america, europe and the west will be forgiving and civil to Iran after Iran has defeated them? Do you HONESTLY believe that they will act in good faith with Iran? Do you think they will not connive to harm Iran? Always remember, the white european races do NOT think or have the same sort of feelings as the non-white races of the world.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[ShapurII]

Do you HONESTLY believe that america, europe and the west will be forgiving and civil to Iran after Iran has defeated them? Do you HONESTLY believe that they will act in good faith with Iran? Do you think they will not connive to harm Iran? Always remember, the white european races do NOT think or have the same sort of feelings as the non-white races of the world.

Bullshit. Everything of value that Iran has in Iran has come from those "white people", the Japanese or the Koreans. Every high-tech lithography equipment that SAAIran used before Israel blew them up came from Japan and the Netherlands in the 90s. Every high-tech medical equipment in Iran like MRI, CT scans or tRMS machines come from Europe, particularly Germany and sometimes Japan. Our entire aviation industry is based on technology imported from those "white people". Almost our entire nuclear weapons program was based on equipment imported from those white people clandestinely. Even our education system and university professors have studied among those "white people". In all my ears in academia in Iran, never saw a researcher worth his salt that had graduated from top Chinese or Russian universities. And even if they exist, the ratio of Western educated researchers to Chinese/Russian educated researchers in Iran is like 50:1, or even worse.

And that's besides the fact that Slavs are by far one of the most xenophobic, racist Europeans ever. I would happily hand over Iran to Germans if it means to kick every Russian out of Iran. I would happily hand over Iran to Japan if it means to kick every Chinese out.

And yes, I HONESTLY believe that they will act in good faith with Iran if Iran can win this war and we reach some sort of non-belligerent status with them. But I don't think we will win this war and it is already too late for that.

 

[TAC]

The vast majority of US offensive capabilities will remain in the region and final couple weeks of 60 day ceasefire if Iran has not fulfilled any or part of deal you're going to see USAF aircraft start flying to the region again. I just can't see Iran destroying their enriched uranium.

Yeah whatever lol. Your orange idiot is now ok with Irans missile programme, publicly ridiculing his demonic Israeli pals, just signed off on Lebanon’s territorial integrity and signed up to arrange $300B for the damage you caused etc etc all to at best get back to what you had with the Obama Accord which Iran already signed upto and adhered to years ago. The only flying USAF will be doing in the area will be sight seeing. Anything more and Iran will lob more of those now approved missiles at the GCC and squeeze Orange Idiots balls ie the Hormuz. That’s what American’s gets for voting in the village idiot as their president & letting him make a weekend news anchor your secretary of war lol.

 

[Flotilla]

Bullshit. Everything of value that Iran has in Iran has come from those "white people", the Japanese or the Koreans. Every high-tech lithography equipment that SAAIran used before Israel blew them up came from Japan and the Netherlands in the 90s. Every high-tech medical equipment in Iran like MRI, CT scans or tRMS machines come from Europe, particularly Germany and sometimes Japan. Our entire aviation industry is based on technology imported from those "white people". Almost our entire nuclear weapons program was based on equipment imported from those white people clandestinely. Even our education system and university professors have studied among those "white people". In all my ears in academia in Iran, never saw a researcher worth his salt that had graduated from top Chinese or Russian universities. And even if they exist, the ratio of Western educated researchers to Chinese/Russian educated researchers in Iran is like 50:1, or even worse.

And that's besides the fact that Slavs are by far one of the most xenophobic, racist Europeans ever. I would happily hand over Iran to Germans if it means to kick every Russian out of Iran. I would happily hand over Iran to Japan if it means to kick every Chinese out.

And yes, I HONESTLY believe that they will act in good faith with Iran if Iran can win this war and we reach some sort of non-belligerent status with them. But I don't think we will win this war and it is already too late for that.

You must review your list of friendly countries.
US doesn't have interest at all of running a 90 millions people country with technology and capability to run all entire Middle East.

Nobody is suggesting here to marry with China or Russia. But you can be clear like cristal that if Irán falls, next in the list will be Russia. Not to mention that an US aligned Irán would break the silk road or just complicate It too much to be affordable.

China in 2008 It is not the 2026 China. Without Chinese military assistance Irán would never won the war. After June 2025 campaign Chinese help were capital for rebuilding missile industries and importing raw materials for early re assembling OWA drones. They delivered some of the most competent MANPADS and also gave political support in UNSC.

So you can't compare China"s 2008 with China's 2026.

I agree that if Islamic Republic can benefit from sanction relief and international banking and investment, Irán should get the best partners and maybe from a point of view of economic of even political perspective maybe in some áreas would be european partners, others Chinese and even americans ones. I don't have any problem with It.

Moreover if Irán is wise and give some juicy contracts to US, US public oppinion will judge Irán is better ally than Israel. At least Islamic Republic would be able to give some money to american companies and not robbering their wallets for crazy wars.

But don't loose the perspective. US hates muslims, there have been a lucrative bussiness based on spreading wars in the Middle East in benefit of the Entity and they smell the money in the war like sharks bood.

 

[Flotilla]

The vast majority of US offensive capabilities will remain in the region and final couple weeks of 60 day ceasefire if Iran has not fulfilled any or part of deal you're going to see USAF aircraft start flying to the region again. I just can't see Iran destroying their enriched uranium.

You just need to get involved with Israel and you'll see how everything will be fine. Otherwise, you'll have a very hot Fourth of July.

 

[Aryan_B]

But don't loose the perspective. US hates muslims, there have been a lucrative bussiness based on spreading wars in the Middle East in benefit of the Entity and they smell the money in the war like sharks bood.

Look at the funders of those that hate muslims like Murdoch and elon musk. Its Gulf arab leaders. Look at UAE leaders inviting farage and tommy robinson to UAE look at Pen being funded by UAE

So all in all so called Muslim leaders assisting hatred of muslims around the world.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Bullshit. Everything of value that Iran has in Iran has come from those "white people", the Japanese or the Koreans. Every high-tech lithography equipment that SAAIran used before Israel blew them up came from Japan and the Netherlands in the 90s. Every high-tech medical equipment in Iran like MRI, CT scans or tRMS machines come from Europe, particularly Germany and sometimes Japan. Our entire aviation industry is based on technology imported from those "white people". Almost our entire nuclear weapons program was based on equipment imported from those white people clandestinely. Even our education system and university professors have studied among those "white people". In all my ears in academia in Iran, never saw a researcher worth his salt that had graduated from top Chinese or Russian universities. And even if they exist, the ratio of Western educated researchers to Chinese/Russian educated researchers in Iran is like 50:1, or even worse.

And that's besides the fact that Slavs are by far one of the most xenophobic, racist Europeans ever. I would happily hand over Iran to Germans if it means to kick every Russian out of Iran. I would happily hand over Iran to Japan if it means to kick every Chinese out.

And yes, I HONESTLY believe that they will act in good faith with Iran if Iran can win this war and we reach some sort of non-belligerent status with them. But I don't think we will win this war and it is already too late for that.

Good luck if you believe that they will act in good faith. You obviously don't know the TRUE nature of the white european races. slavs ARE white europeans by the way.

What you said in your post ONLY holds true IF the white european races remain the most technologically and scientifically advanced race on the planet. What happens if the Chinese become the most scientifically and technologically advanced race on earth which is looking more and more likely? Would you refuse to work with them because they are East Asian and not white european?

 

[ShapurII]

You must review your list of friendly countries.
US doesn't have interest at all of running a 90 millions people country with technology and capability to run all entire Middle East.

I respectfully disagree. Turkey is currently playing this role. In fact, if you listen to Robert Baer about the Middle East before the Arab Spring started, he mentioned that Arabs, particularly Saudi Arabia, had failed to contain Iran in the Middle East and the US had to switch to Turkey to contain Iran's growing influence. And if you see what has happened after 2010 in the Middle East, you will clearly notice a very strong pattern where Turkey has constantly played that role for the US in the Middle East. And Turkey has 90 million people just like us. So, this idea that the US doesn't have such interests is a false premise.

Nobody is suggesting here to marry with China or Russia. But you can be clear like cristal that if Irán falls, next in the list will be Russia. Not to mention that an US aligned Irán would break the silk road or just complicate It too much to be affordable.

You guys keep changing your list. One day you say the next in the list is Turkey, the other day you say it's Russia. Russia has over 6,000 nuclear and hypersonic warheads capable of reaching Europe and the US, including strategic nuclear warheads over 50 megatons to defend its sovereignty. I don't think Russia needs Iran, unfortunately. Why unfortunately? Because I would pay good money to see the Russians fall after betraying all of their friends, but it's not going to happen.

China in 2008 It is not the 2026 China. Without Chinese military assistance Irán would never won the war. After June 2025 campaign Chinese help were capital for rebuilding missile industries and importing raw materials for early re assembling OWA drones. They delivered some of the most competent MANPADS and also gave political support in UNSC.

Nonsense. I am yet to see direct Chinese military assistance in any meaningful way whatsoever. Chinese military assistance has always been limited to indirect import of military chips and components, or raw materials like ammonium perchlorate when Iran was forced to quickly expand its production rate of solid-fueled missiles. The Europeans also have done that for us for decades. As I said, our entire nuclear weapons program was based on European components imported clandestinely.

So you can't compare China"s 2008 with China's 2026.

I didn't compare China in different periods in terms of its own development. Needless to say, it is evident that China has developed itself into a major power in the last 2 decades. But it is absolutely comparable in terms of its business with Iran. If anything, China-Iran relations in early 2000s was miles ahead of our situation in 2026.

Moreover if Irán is wise and give some juicy contracts to US, US public oppinion will judge Irán is better ally than Israel. At least Islamic Republic would be able to give some money to american companies and not robbering their wallets for crazy wars.

I don't think the US public opinion is that important. I don't consider the US to be a functioning democracy anymore. A country where over 30% of the wealth is hoarded by less than 2% of the society cannot be a real democracy.

But don't loose the perspective. US hates muslims, there have been a lucrative bussiness based on spreading wars in the Middle East in benefit of the Entity and they smell the money in the war like sharks bood.

Again, that's a false premise. Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, the Emirates, Qatar, they all have benefitted from working with the United States. Republic of Azerbaijan has close ties with Israel and they finally took back their lands from Armenia with the help of Israel and the US. The idea that the US is inherently evil and anti-Muslim is a false premise as there are multiple examples right next to us who maintain amicable relations with the US.

 

[Viet]

The answer is money.

Money for corrupt vassal élites who take decisions, not for their people who are more impoverished every day

The Kremlin Never Learns – Paul Craig Roberts

paulcraigroberts.org

Here another source confirming that simple domination scheme over Europe elites

Corinna claims in podcast that Juan Carlos would 'return home with bags full of cash' - Spain in English

The ex-mistress of Spain's former disgraced king Juan Carlos I, the Danish-German socialite and businesswoman, Corinna zu Sayn-Wittgenstein (also known ...

www.spainenglish.com

Of course it's only the 0.1% upper part of state.

The rest 99.99% are useful idiots who must be persuaded through emotions and lies, creating narratives.

That’s old story. The US under Trump now squeezes every penny out of friends and allies. MAGA means every dollar goes to America, nothing goes to friends. The minus: the US will never win a war again.