Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

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@ShapurII

Dude, I have been saying that for years.

When the 2008 UNSC sanctions kicked in, China was the first country to close the bank accounts of Iranian students in its country. Iranian students received a 2-week notice to empty their bank accounts or else they said they would confiscate them. Not just the bank accounts of Iranian businessmen, or the official bank accounts of our central bank or related government entities, but even the accounts of Iranian students studying in China!

Guess what? Before Europe sanctions Iranian students, Russia butted in and published a list of university courses that Iranians were not allowed to participate in. Russia banned Iranian students from studying nuclear engineering and nuclear physics in Russia. They also refused to accept Iranian PhD admissions for topics that could be of dual use for Iran's nuclear and missile program.

Even in this war, Russia and China not only didn't do jack shit for Iran but actively undermined Iran's efforts to increase oil and gas prices to end the war on our terms. China nearly stopped its oil imports and Russia increased its oil output and exports. Thanks to that Zionist bitch Zelensky, Russia couldn't benefit as much as they planned to. Hopefully, Ukraine will hit more Russian energy assets.

People here who talk about Iran moving towards China after this war are delusional. Absolutely foolish, if you ask me. If anything, if Iran has truly won this war as some people claim here, we should settle our differences with the US after this war and pivot towards the US and Europe and leave the Russians and the Chinese to their fate. If we are the true winners of this war, there is no reason for us not to normalize our relations with the US and import high quality American and European goods for the right price, instead of importing Chinese goods with inflated black market prices.

 

[ety]

Trump is down until underwear.
really embarassing for a military superpower
nobody expected this outcome.
people now fear he will pour his anger on Europe.

No matter what Trump US does to EU, it will always be a loyal lapdog to US, EU will be always following the US footsteps on sanctioning Iran, China and Russia.

 

[Lulldapull]

Dude, I have been saying that for years.

When the 2008 UNSC sanctions kicked in, China was the first country to close the bank accounts of Iranian students in its country. Iranian students received a 2-week notice to empty their bank accounts or else they said they would confiscate them. Not just the bank accounts of Iranian businessmen, or the official bank accounts of our central bank or related government entities, but even the accounts of Iranian students studying in China!

Guess what? Before Europe sanctions Iranian students, Russia butted in and published a list of university courses that Iranians were not allowed to participate in. Russia banned Iranian students from studying nuclear engineering and nuclear physics in Russia. They also refused to accept Iranian PhD admissions for topics that could be of dual use for Iran's nuclear and missile program.

Even in this war, Russia and China not only didn't do jack shit for Iran but actively undermined Iran's efforts to increase oil and gas prices to end the war on our terms. China nearly stopped its oil imports and Russia increased its oil output and exports. Thanks to that Zionist bitch Zelensky, Russia couldn't benefit as much as they planned to. Hopefully, Ukraine will hit more Russian energy assets.

People here who talk about Iran moving towards China after this war are delusional. Absolutely foolish, if you ask me. If anything, if Iran has truly won this war as some people claim here, we should settle our differences with the US after this war and pivot towards the US and Europe and leave the Russians and the Chinese to their fate. If we are the true winners of this war, there is no reason for us not to normalize our relations with the US and import high quality American and European goods for the right price, instead of importing Chinese goods with inflated black market prices.

You know and I know with the nature of trade between Iran n China over them last 45 odd years........Just how much of Irans maany stuck inside China?.......I bet its in the hundreds of billions.

All of that $450 odd billion Iran-BRI/ infra deal that nobody talks about anymore? Dead in the water right?

Come on man........These Chinese guys put our poor country Pakistan is serious debt to the tune of $70 billion and then fled under US pressure during trumps first term. Cuz we just couldn't pay the monthly payments.

Its just a bad scene you know? We're stuck running coal fired power plants which we couldn't afford and got the highest per unit electricity charges on this planet slammed on the broke Pakistani population to pay off Chinese investment.

Iran should not deal with China at all. They are not a good trade partner and are a US proxy. Trump's favorite go to country for trade.

 

[Viet]

No matter what Trump US does to EU, it will always be a loyal lapdog to US, EU will be always following the US footsteps on sanctioning Iran, China and Russia.

The question is why all those dogs surrounding China, Russia and Iran still running into the US. Something goes wrong?

 

[ety]

The question is why all those dogs surrounding China, Russia and Iran still running into the US. Something goes wrong?

Once a dog, always like to be dog. They need someone to spank on their butts.

 

[Viet]

Once a dog, always like to be dog. They need someone to spank on their butts.

That’s weird. But where is China’s soft power?
the Russians will never learn soft power, same same Iran. That’s the most mysterious for me. This endless bloodshed sucks.
If you think more spankings help, then you are welcome.

 

[ety]

That’s weird. But where is China’s soft power?
the Russians never learn soft power, same same Iran. That’s the most mysterious for me. This endless bloodshed sucks.
If you think more spankings help then you are welcome.

They like EU, Japan and SK like to be spanked or bullied by sugar coated daddy Uncle Sam.

 

[BHAN85]

The question is why all those dogs surrounding China, Russia and Iran still running into the US. Something goes wrong?

The answer is money.

Money for corrupt vassal élites who take decisions, not for their people who are more impoverished every day

The most obvious answer is that Washington has paid the Finish leaders to add to the pressure on the Kremlin by joining NATO. I have good reason to believe this. Years ago I was in the Pentagon in the office of a very high official being offered an important appointment. I used the opportunity to ask a question about something that had long puzzled me. How, I asked, does Washington manage to get foreign governments to support Washington’s interests at the expense of their own countries? “Money,” the high Pentagon official said. “You mean foreign aid,” I said. “No,” the official said, “we give the political leaders bags full of money. We own them. They report to us.”

The Kremlin Never Learns – Paul Craig Roberts

Here another source confirming that simple domination scheme over Europe elites

Corinna claims in podcast that Juan Carlos would 'return home with bags full of cash' - Spain in English

The ex-mistress of Spain's former disgraced king Juan Carlos I, the Danish-German socialite and businesswoman, Corinna zu Sayn-Wittgenstein (also known ...

www.spainenglish.com

Of course it's only the 0.1% upper part of state.

The rest 99.99% are useful idiots who must be persuaded through emotions and lies, creating narratives.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Dude, I have been saying that for years.

When the 2008 UNSC sanctions kicked in, China was the first country to close the bank accounts of Iranian students in its country. Iranian students received a 2-week notice to empty their bank accounts or else they said they would confiscate them. Not just the bank accounts of Iranian businessmen, or the official bank accounts of our central bank or related government entities, but even the accounts of Iranian students studying in China!

Guess what? Before Europe sanctions Iranian students, Russia butted in and published a list of university courses that Iranians were not allowed to participate in. Russia banned Iranian students from studying nuclear engineering and nuclear physics in Russia. They also refused to accept Iranian PhD admissions for topics that could be of dual use for Iran's nuclear and missile program.

Even in this war, Russia and China not only didn't do jack shit for Iran but actively undermined Iran's efforts to increase oil and gas prices to end the war on our terms. China nearly stopped its oil imports and Russia increased its oil output and exports. Thanks to that Zionist bitch Zelensky, Russia couldn't benefit as much as they planned to. Hopefully, Ukraine will hit more Russian energy assets.

People here who talk about Iran moving towards China after this war are delusional. Absolutely foolish, if you ask me. If anything, if Iran has truly won this war as some people claim here, we should settle our differences with the US after this war and pivot towards the US and Europe and leave the Russians and the Chinese to their fate. If we are the true winners of this war, there is no reason for us not to normalize our relations with the US and import high quality American and European goods for the right price, instead of importing Chinese goods with inflated black market prices.

Only ordinary Muslims are actively opposing US hegemony.

East Asians love US hegemony.

 

[Fatman17]

Stay on the topic. It's not about china.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Dude, I have been saying that for years.

When the 2008 UNSC sanctions kicked in, China was the first country to close the bank accounts of Iranian students in its country. Iranian students received a 2-week notice to empty their bank accounts or else they said they would confiscate them. Not just the bank accounts of Iranian businessmen, or the official bank accounts of our central bank or related government entities, but even the accounts of Iranian students studying in China!

Guess what? Before Europe sanctions Iranian students, Russia butted in and published a list of university courses that Iranians were not allowed to participate in. Russia banned Iranian students from studying nuclear engineering and nuclear physics in Russia. They also refused to accept Iranian PhD admissions for topics that could be of dual use for Iran's nuclear and missile program.

Even in this war, Russia and China not only didn't do jack shit for Iran but actively undermined Iran's efforts to increase oil and gas prices to end the war on our terms. China nearly stopped its oil imports and Russia increased its oil output and exports. Thanks to that Zionist bitch Zelensky, Russia couldn't benefit as much as they planned to. Hopefully, Ukraine will hit more Russian energy assets.

People here who talk about Iran moving towards China after this war are delusional. Absolutely foolish, if you ask me. If anything, if Iran has truly won this war as some people claim here, we should settle our differences with the US after this war and pivot towards the US and Europe and leave the Russians and the Chinese to their fate. If we are the true winners of this war, there is no reason for us not to normalize our relations with the US and import high quality American and European goods for the right price, instead of importing Chinese goods with inflated black market prices.

Do you HONESTLY believe that america, europe and the west will be forgiving and civil to Iran after Iran has defeated them? Do you HONESTLY believe that they will act in good faith with Iran? Do you think they will not connive to harm Iran? Always remember, the white european races do NOT think or have the same sort of feelings as the non-white races of the world.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[ShapurII]

Do you HONESTLY believe that america, europe and the west will be forgiving and civil to Iran after Iran has defeated them? Do you HONESTLY believe that they will act in good faith with Iran? Do you think they will not connive to harm Iran? Always remember, the white european races do NOT think or have the same sort of feelings as the non-white races of the world.

Bullshit. Everything of value that Iran has in Iran has come from those "white people", the Japanese or the Koreans. Every high-tech lithography equipment that SAAIran used before Israel blew them up came from Japan and the Netherlands in the 90s. Every high-tech medical equipment in Iran like MRI, CT scans or tRMS machines come from Europe, particularly Germany and sometimes Japan. Our entire aviation industry is based on technology imported from those "white people". Almost our entire nuclear weapons program was based on equipment imported from those white people clandestinely. Even our education system and university professors have studied among those "white people". In all my ears in academia in Iran, never saw a researcher worth his salt that had graduated from top Chinese or Russian universities. And even if they exist, the ratio of Western educated researchers to Chinese/Russian educated researchers in Iran is like 50:1, or even worse.

And that's besides the fact that Slavs are by far one of the most xenophobic, racist Europeans ever. I would happily hand over Iran to Germans if it means to kick every Russian out of Iran. I would happily hand over Iran to Japan if it means to kick every Chinese out.

And yes, I HONESTLY believe that they will act in good faith with Iran if Iran can win this war and we reach some sort of non-belligerent status with them. But I don't think we will win this war and it is already too late for that.

 

[TAC]

The vast majority of US offensive capabilities will remain in the region and final couple weeks of 60 day ceasefire if Iran has not fulfilled any or part of deal you're going to see USAF aircraft start flying to the region again. I just can't see Iran destroying their enriched uranium.

Yeah whatever lol. Your orange idiot is now ok with Irans missile programme, publicly ridiculing his demonic Israeli pals, just signed off on Lebanon’s territorial integrity and signed up to arrange $300B for the damage you caused etc etc all to at best get back to what you had with the Obama Accord which Iran already signed upto and adhered to years ago. The only flying USAF will be doing in the area will be sight seeing. Anything more and Iran will lob more of those now approved missiles at the GCC and squeeze Orange Idiots balls ie the Hormuz. That’s what American’s gets for voting in the village idiot as their president & letting him make a weekend news anchor your secretary of war lol.