Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Yes and no. There were nutjobs in India pushing to nuke, but in general Modi was using it as a faux threat to Trump to potentially have the PAF not go around hitting Dehli.

India has a lot more conventional depth before they have to think of nuclear options but the critical issue is that their AF grounded itself and the one way drone missions Pakistan had over Dehli got them very nervous.
It was one thing to see Indian strikes in Rawalpindi which is nowhere near the border and another to have their ring of fire around Dehli exposed.
i heard there was a CNN report from a source during the war saying they were ... shocked by Pakistan's Response on may 10th. That pushed them to wanting to ceasefire.
Genuinely hope more details come out about what happened that day.
 
i heard there was a CNN report from a source during the war saying they were ... shocked by Pakistan's Response on may 10th. That pushed them to wanting to ceasefire.
Genuinely hope more details come out about what happened that day.
You will hear or some one you trust would have heard a lot but will not see anything meaning full hit on Indian side, while India has released the images or videos of the sites damages in pakistan , but some how India was desperate for a ceasefire. Logic ki m@ beh@n
 
You will hear or some one you trust would have heard a lot but will not see anything meaning full hit on Indian side, while India has released the images or videos of the sites damages in pakistan , but some how India was desperate for a ceasefire. Logic ki m@ beh@n
lol you fking degenerate there are many photos now come out of the damage of ur side aswell

idk how dumb you guys actually are. I think you are dumb but then you prove to be even more dumber.
 
Many of us have pointed out the sheer idiocy of the MKI purchase many decades ago while Indians here were living in "Raptor of the east" fantasy.
It is a complex, maintenance heavy jet with its TVC and susceptibility to FOD a serious issue.

But, PAF and everyone is "glad" that the IAF did make the idiot mistake, right?
 
Here is a serious matter.
Thanks for the sensible post…. While we are busy thumping chests and mocking our enemy they are well On their way to stop all of our water .

While our politicians high-five and generals toast scotch our enemy is quietly working on the plan to starve Pakistan .

Instead of being humble we are becoming arrogant and stupid …. We will pay dearly unless we put our house in order and become economically and politically strong .

No amount of songs and videos will save us from the next round where the weapon will not be a Rafael but the dam built to starve us .
 
More so shrinking from the Indian ocean operations.
Focusing on pacific fight rather than coordination with India.

Basically the US is focusing away from fighting as the combined NATO - Pacific Ally force to being able to “do it all on its own”.

Centcom might take over more Indian ocean ops or even end of prioritization and coverage for African ops.
EUCOM will see some resource reductions as well.
There is also the realization, in the US military, that the resources are being over stretched over multiple theaters, while China is building up rapidly.

The only way to keep up is pull back from most theaters and focus on Paccom. If we see a cut to the US army budget (which is Europe focused), and a boost to the US navy (including marines) followed by the USAF, we will know the shift is underway.

A good opportunity for Pakistan to approach the GCC to be their Indian Ocean net security provider, protecting their SLOCs, requiring funding assistance to the PN (and marines) primarily, followed by PAF.

Net result would be a Pakistani military that can keep pace with the Indian military, out right.
 
Thanks for the sensible post…. While we are busy thumping chests and mocking our enemy they are well On their way to stop all of our water .

While our politicians high-five and generals toast scotch our enemy is quietly working on the plan to starve Pakistan .

Instead of being humble we are becoming arrogant and stupid …. We will pay dearly unless we put our house in order and become economically and politically strong .

No amount of songs and videos will save us from the next round where the weapon will not be a Rafael but the dam built to starve us .
I used to think that way too after IK incident, but objectively looking at it, Pakistan military hasn’t stand still and hand out high-fives. They’ve been busy countering the Indian threat. I think many of us expected our military to fold when push came to shove, they didn’t expected marvelously. Pakistan is an enigma wrapped in a puzzle.

We have the right to disagree with one another over the domestic handling, but one think I’m proud of is how they do manage to handle the strategically military threat.
 
میاں، اس کو کہتے ہیں رنڈی رونا ۔۔۔

Recently..., LazerEyes went out & started talking about how the EU has been selling Weapons to India's enemies...

Acha, interesting isn't it. He didn't have the courage (or plain simple balls) to take Pakistan's name on an International Forum, but used the word 'Dalal' in their Lok Sabha. Proof kay ye gandu Indians apnay ghar may he Sheer (Lion) hotay hain.

Anyways, here are some of the so-called European Weapons that have been sold to India's "Enemy"...


I honestly did not even know how to take this news piece by Firstpost - 'cause afterall, (a) Its Indian & (b) We don't even have a platform to respond back.

Khair..., if anyone wants to actually witness this b.s....

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Its kind of related/unrelated but since we're on the Topic of Mr. LazerEyes, I just couldn't let this one go.

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This is one department Indians accel better than anyone on the Planet.

1. (blah blah blah) melts hearts
2. (blah blah blah) breaks the internet

I mean seriously..., they are just so - cheezy :sick: .

Meloni probably told Modi...

"میری انگریزی تو جو ہے، پر تمہاری تو بالکل فارغ ہے"
جارجا میلونی-

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You discovered indians are idiots???? Agr hamne ne European systems used by India list krna churu kia toh....
 
I used to think that way too after IK incident, but objectively looking at it, Pakistan military hasn’t stand still and hand out high-fives. They’ve been busy countering the Indian threat. I think many of us expected our military to fold when push came to shove, they didn’t expected marvelously. Pakistan is an enigma wrapped in a puzzle.

We have the right to disagree with one another over the domestic handling, but one think I’m proud of is how they do manage to handle the strategically military threat.


I have never doubted our Jawan’s skills and will power to fight … we will never lose any war because Indians over come us physically or militarily…. It’s our GHQ that buckles under one phone call .


This is what worries me …. one of the highest ranking PAF officer who recently retired and was visiting USA had a sit down dinner with me and my best friend who is also ex PAF.

Few things he mentioned without me pushing him hard was that Su30s are not looked as any threat in PAF …. Rafael is a beast we need to be careful with and our air defence did not perform as expected .

Being a fighter pilot himself he was glowing when talking about our pilots performance but was very very concerned about saturated attack by super or hypersonic missiles Indians have in abundance and too few and expensive for us .
 
I used to think that way too after IK incident, but objectively looking at it, Pakistan military hasn’t stand still and hand out high-fives. They’ve been busy countering the Indian threat. I think many of us expected our military to fold when push came to shove, they didn’t expected marvelously. Pakistan is an enigma wrapped in a puzzle.

We have the right to disagree with one another over the domestic handling, but one think I’m proud of is how they do manage to handle the strategically military threat.
I never thought our military would "fold". I doubt many Pakistanis ever thought that. Plenty out in the west thought this but even there, the ones who know the resolve of the Pakistani military always suspected that Hindustan is walking blind folded into a cage fight with a madman.

But of course, as you have said, none of us, military or civilian, can take our eyes off the ball now. Pakistan simply cannot rest on any laurels, be they real or perceived.
 
I have never doubted our Jawan’s skills and will power to fight … we will never lose any war because Indians over come us physically or militarily…. It’s our GHQ that buckles under one phone call .


This is what worries me …. one of the highest ranking PAF officer who recently retired and was visiting USA had a sit down dinner with me and my best friend who is also ex PAF.

Few things he mentioned without me pushing him hard was that Su30s are not looked as any threat in PAF …. Rafael is a beast we need to be careful with and our air defence did not perform as expected .

Being a fighter pilot himself he was glowing when talking about our pilots performance but was very very concerned about saturated attack by super or hypersonic missiles Indians have in abundance and too few and expensive for us .
It will be full war mostly likely both country won't survive and that is a fact because India won't release water and they would think Pakistan won't strike but it will and it will nuke so than India will as well. But in the end world will curse india for making Pakistan do this.
 
It will be full war mostly likely both country won't survive and that is a fact because India won't release water and they would think Pakistan won't strike but it will and it will nuke so than India will as well. But in the end world will curse india for making Pakistan do this.
It is far far more complicated than this …. This war needs to be won diplomatically and not militarily .

Our politicians are busy buying private jet and plastic surgeries to worry about what elaborate plans are being made by the Indians . Hell with the Indus treaty …. Someone who doesn’t care about UN SC resolution will show a middle finger for WB arbitration.

Just think about the level of depravity Nawaz and Bhutto bastards show …. Tell them Kalabagh dam will be built and they will call for strikes and separation movement….. tell them Punjab will starve because of Indian Dams and you hear a pin drop silence …. These guys are sick and twisted beyond belief but unfortunately they are put in power to deal with these serious issues .
 
It is far far more complicated than this …. This war needs to be won diplomatically and not militarily .

Our politicians are busy buying private jet and plastic surgeries to worry about what elaborate plans are being made by the Indians . Hell with the Indus treaty …. Someone who doesn’t care about UN SC resolution will show a middle finger for WB arbitration.

Just think about the level of depravity Nawaz and Bhutto bastards show …. Tell them Kalabagh dam will be built and they will call for strikes and separation movement….. tell them Punjab will starve because of Indian Dams and you hear a pin drop silence …. These guys are sick and twisted beyond belief but unfortunately they are put in power to deal with these serious issues .
There nothing doing one country is in totally hate of another and do not follow international forum. Even if Pakistan wins all international forum, India won't accept it. They are Gunda and Thug or robbery kind of mentality and you only deal with these kind of people with brute force.
 

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