Chinese SAC - FC-31/J-35 5th Gen Stealth Aircraft

UAE may want J35 but its a big gamble by China then as India, US will definitely try to get info on it.

Also for the J35 to be truly effective the UAE needs procure Chinese radars, AWACS, CC and many other equipment. That is a big investment which would piss off the US and Trump. The UAE currently lack all of this.

Outside of Pak, likely customer i would rank in this order:

Egypt
Saudi Arabia
Algeria
 
I think, if anything, Indonesia, Thailand, KSA and Qatar would be more prime candidates if it was not Pakistan
KSA, Qatar are confirmed F35 buyers, US won’t allow their F35 buyers to procure another stealth fighter platform from China for obvious reasons. However, they may fund a third country to buy J35 instead of themselves.

Indonesia is in deep economic crisis currently and I don’t believe they have the appetite atm for a sophisticated but expensive next generation fighter.

No sign Thailand will swing to China, given they continue to buy western JAS39 fighters over J10C, despite Thai JAS39 lost to J10C completely during China Thai air exercises.




As to which potential buyer of J35, this picture ( above link)in my view hints something: it says “ let the world know the advance of Chinese technology “, well, if this SAC technician travels to Pakistan who knows Chinese military technologies and capabilities very well, I don’t expect SAC would use this phrase to describe. More likely, this sac technician is traveling to a country that knows much less of Chinese military technologies & capabilities but relatively much more of other western modern military technologies.

That narrows down to either UAE, Egypt. Usually I don’t consider UAE as the buyer, given its close relationship to US and Israel, but since UAE denied F35 sales proposal from USA due to US request for remote control of all F35 to be sold to UAE, it remains possible UAE will buy J35, at least for the purposes of bargaining.

Egypt is also possible as its Air Force chief showed great interest in J35, and traveled to China for this less than 2 years ago.
 
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I totally agree with you on all points, but as I said, my gut tells me there’s actually more to it this time:

1. For the first time, China has a product for which there is a market.

2. ... and with which—after extensive preparation—it is venturing into the export market. (for the J-10CE the time was not yet right a few years ago, now it likely istoo)

3. Yes, this is a bold move for both China and the UAE.

4. As for the UAE, I am prepared to say that they are taking the plunge for the first time; the time is finally right for this truly radical departure from the status quo—a step that will greatly anger "Uncle Donald" and comes at a high cost.

Agree to disagree here
 
If it is UAE - you can nearly GUARANTEE that the US, Israel and by inference India will have access to everything they need to know about the aircraft.

Yeah, and the Chinese are aware of that fact too, which makes me think it is not UAE
 
KSA, Qatar are confirmed F35 buyers, US won’t allow their F35 buyers to procure another stealth fighter platform from China for obvious reasons. However, they may fund a third country to buy J35 instead of themselves.

Indonesia is in deep economic crisis currently and I don’t believe they have the appetite atm for a sophisticated but expensive next generation fighter.

No sign Thailand will swing to China, given they continue to buy western JAS39 fighters over J10C, despite Thai JAS39 lost to J10C completely during China Thai air exercises.




As to which potential buyer of J35, this picture ( above link)in my view hints something: it says “ let the world know the advance of Chinese technology “, well, if this SAC technician travels to Pakistan who knows Chinese military technologies and capabilities very well, I don’t expect SAC would use this phrase to describe. More likely, this sac technician is traveling to a country that knows much less of Chinese military technologies & capabilities but relatively much more of other western modern military technologies.

That narrows down to either UAE, Egypt. Usually I don’t consider UAE as the buyer, given its close relationship to US and Israel, but since UAE denied F35 sales proposal from USA due to US request for remote control of all F35 to be sold to UAE, it remains possible UAE will buy J35, at least for the purposes of bargaining.

Egypt is also possible as its Air Force chief showed great interest in J35, and traveled to China for this less than 2 years ago.

Sorry but this post makes far too many assumptions, no matter how well any country knows Chinese equipment, it would need SAC staff for any J-35 buy. Just like Pakistgan would need Lockheed staff for any new version of F-16 it purchases. Egypt will not do anything to upset US at all
 
UAE may want J35 but its a big gamble by China then as India, US will definitely try to get info on it.

Also for the J35 to be truly effective the UAE needs procure Chinese radars, AWACS, CC and many other equipment. That is a big investment which would piss off the US and Trump. The UAE currently lack all of this.

Outside of Pak, likely customer i would rank in this order:

Egypt
Saudi Arabia
Algeria

Saudi and Algeria strong possibilities, although Algerians recently went for SU-57 no?
 
I think, if anything, Indonesia, Thailand, KSA and Qatar would be more prime candidates if it was not Pakistan
This is not a question that is suitable for in-depth discussion here.
Thanks, since it confirms my thought, a customer is likely confirmed, even if its identity not yet!
The official release of such a suggestive message indicates that an agreement has been reached, or negotiations have concluded. In other words, the matter is "confirmed."

But, who is the client? Following the usual practices of Chinese official institutions, this will likely not be fully disclosed until the formal delivery.

However, technical personnel will immediately travel to the client's country to handle related matters after the agreement is reached.
 
This is not a question that is suitable for in-depth discussion here.

The official release of such a suggestive message indicates that an agreement has been reached, or negotiations have concluded. In other words, the matter is "confirmed."

But, who is the client? Following the usual practices of Chinese official institutions, this will likely not be fully disclosed until the formal delivery.

However, technical personnel will immediately travel to the client's country to handle related matters after the agreement is reached.

I think it is Pakistan, not saying that out of a bias, but what with the jet mentioned by PAF CAS and even the PM tweeting about it last year (then quickly deleting tweet). No other country has hinted so heavily towards the J-35 as Pakistan has, and no other country operates front line Chinese jets at the moment
 
IMO, if it's not the PAF it'll be the Saudi AF. Although I have a feeling the US would be willing to export a neutered version of the F35 to the Gulf states, and ensure israeli superiority, to keep the Gulf states in their orbit and away from China. Remember, the israelis are the only nation allowed to make their own modifications to their F35s. It's rather like how the US ensured israeli superiority against say Egypt and the Saudis with legacy fourth gen aircraft like the Viper and the Eagle.
 
IMO, if it's not the PAF it'll be the Saudi AF. Although I have a feeling the US would be willing to export a neutered version of the F35 to the Gulf states, and ensure israeli superiority, to keep the Gulf states in their orbit and away from China. Remember, the israelis are the only nation allowed to make their own modifications to their F35s. It's rather like how the US ensured israeli superiority against say Egypt and the Saudis with legacy fourth gen aircraft like the Viper and the Eagle.

Yeah, with the Saudi-Pak pact too Saudi can get a lot of manpower experianced with Chinese equipment without having to bring in actual Chinese PLAAF/technicians, but even then you would need a considerable Chinese presence on Saudi soil. First time ever this jet has been exported.

I am still veering to Pakistan for this reason and the many I have mentioned before
 

Algeria set to acquire Chinese Aircrafts

June 29, 2026

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Algeria is finalizing an agreement to take its first Chinese combat aircraft, the Chengdu J-10C fighter jets, and the Shaanxi KJ-500 early warning aircraft, with deliveries reportedly starting in 2027. The report circulated in mid-June 2026, Algeria would become the first African state to fly both types if this holds up.

The Algerian Air Force has run an all-Russian combat fleet for decades, including Su-30MKA multirole fighters, Su-24 strike jets, and MiG-29 variants. Algeria has taken delivery of Su-35 air superiority fighters, originally built for Egypt and diverted after Cairo’s order fell through, with the first aircraft spotted at Ain Beida air base in March 2025. Su-34M strike jets in camouflage scheme followed, and a video from February 2026 appears to show an early Su-57E, the export version of Russia’s stealth fighter, flying near Oum El Bouaghi.

THE AIRCRAFTS

The J-10C, known in China as the “Vigorous Dragon,” is a single-engine, 4.5-generation fighter built by Chengdu Aircraft Corporation for the People’s Liberation Army Air Force. It uses a delta wing with canard foreplanes for high agility, a quadruplex fly-by-wire control system, and a diverterless supersonic inlet that trims its radar signature without moving parts. A domestic WS-10B turbofan pushes it to roughly Mach 1.8 to 2.0, with a combat range estimated between 1,240 km and 1,850 km depending on configuration. It carries an active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar and the PL-15 long-range air-to-air missile, and spreads its weapons load up to 7,000 kg across 11 hardpoints. Pakistani J-10Cs were also involved in air-to-air engagements against the Indian Air Force in May 2025, the type’s first reported use in actual combat.

The KJ-500 is a third-generation airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft built on the Shaanxi Y-9 transport airframe. Rather than a rotating dome, it carries 3 fixed AESA radar panels in a dorsal radome that together give it 360-degree coverage with no gaps to refresh. China’s air force uses it to track more than 100 targets out to roughly 470 km, including low-flying aircraft and cruise missiles that older mechanically scanned radars can miss. 4 WJ-6C turboprop engines give it a range of 5,700 km and 8 to 12 hours of endurance; the upgraded KJ-500A adds a refueling probe for round-the-clock coverage. In practice, the aircraft acts as a relay hub, pulling in data from ground radars, ships, and drones and feeding it to fighters so they can fire on a target without using their own radar and giving away their position.

Russia’s defence industry is under real strain. Production lines are absorbing losses from the war in Ukraine, and Algeria’s own Su-57E order, reportedly signed in February 2025 for a dozen aircraft, has moved slowly; Russia built only 7 Su-57s between 2023 and 2024, and its total operational fleet sits at roughly 19 to 25 aircraft. Buying Chinese hardware lets Algiers hedge against further delays without abandoning a decades-old Russian relationship that still supplies the bulk of its air force.

Egypt has reportedly discussed and at points signed for J-10C purchases of its own, though Beijing has publicly denied some of those reports, and interest has also surfaced in Saudi Arabia.Adding Chinese aircraft to that lineup would not replace the Russian jets. It would sit alongside them, giving Algiers a second supplier so that a single source cannot dictate the pace of its modernization.


 

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