Balochistan Terrorism Watch

[ahmedtarar]

To surmise it one word, money.

Bingo, each armament, drone, sorties cost moonies. And with the IMF stranglehold and debt repayments, we can only spend that much. Hence, this terrorism will continue unabated. I am not sure why folks think that anything is going to change. These mfing attacks have been happening since ages, the time to crush them is long gone. We just cannot handle so many conflicts together.

 

[Tomcats]

the time to crush them is long gone

It can be done, it will just need a shift in strategy and budget. But that will come at the cost of conventional ability vis a vis India. I can recall certain domestic programs like the tank program being affected by the budget squeezes as it had to be redirected towards CT efforts in KPK during the 2010s unless I'm mistaken, @Lion probably knows more.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Is there any genuine solution even possibe at this stage ? At how much area do Pak even have real govt writ and control in Baluchistan, going by news it seem BLA can attack wherever they wish and the are more then willing to bear the cost. Make it peaceful whatever need to be done , by ballot or bullet, but maybe it isn't chaos and it's by design. This can't go on forever.

Yes, but it requires $2-3 billion a year to clean up Balochistan. Shift population to camps and kill anyone outside them. Only zarb-e-azb style operations deter.

Along with obviously bombing Taliban regime leadership.

 

[ahmedtarar]

But that will come at the cost of conventional ability vis a vis India.

Thats the elephant in the room. We have a war looming at our doorstep and this time we have to initiate it. Water terrorism is non-negotiable and only raw muscle power can deter the injuns. But, something tells me that we will severely compromise on our covert capabilities in IIOJK and renegotiate the treaty in their favor within an year or two, but they will not give up theirs in return. IMHO, the capabilities of the state seem to be dwindling with the passage of time.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Thats the elephant in the room. We have a war looming at our doorstep and this time we have to initiate it. Water terrorism is non-negotiable and only raw muscle power can deter the injuns. But, something tells me that we will severely compromise on our covert capabilities in IIOJK and renegotiate the treaty in their favor within an year or two, but they will not give up theirs in return. IMHO, the capabilities of the state seem to be dwindling with the passage of time.

Your enemies have you surrounded and are grinding you down.

 

[Starlord]

The first thing we need to do is divide Baluchistan into 3-4 smallar states, then start cleaning them up one by one, seal off the borders and empty all villages and relocate them.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Kabul, Kandahar, Jalalabad, Kunar etc. must burn....

 

[Tomcats]

Take a $30 billion loan from China to fortify the border and go to war with the taliban and their proxies and end this once and for all.

China isn't giving out freebies anymore, and the military is paranoid of foreign involvement be it the US or China.

But, something tells me that we will severely compromise on our covert capabilities in IIOJK and renegotiate the treaty in their favor within an year or two, but they will not give up theirs in return.

We are severely outgunned by India, there is no conventional match, they can attrition us into submission. For what it's worth the insurgency in IOJK has died out, there is almost no activity these days. Started with Bajwa, now Munir seems to be continuing it, likely because Pakistan cannot afford to entangle itself in it.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

China isn't giving out freebies anymore, and the military is paranoid of foreign involvement be it the US or China.

We are severely outgunned by India, there is no conventional match, they can attrition us into submission. For what it's worth the insurgency in IOJK has died out, there is almost no activity these days. Started with Bajwa, now Munir seems to be continuing it, likely because Pakistan cannot afford to entangle itself in it.

As such, you make it unaffordable for Bharat vis-a-vis Afganistan. Destroy as much Bharati assets there as possible to slow down their replenishment....

 

[Night Memory]

So we don't have money to produce roughly 100 Burraq drones with 500 or so burq missiles? I thought we always find money when a system is needed?

Can we compare the price of 100 burraq vs the two private jets govt has bought? I was even fine with them getting those jets but things like these just break you. There is so much frustration inside to see innocent pakistanis losing lives non stop..

 

[13 Assassins]

Pakistan cannot win this war against sandal wearing dust riding militias.
Seems as though Pakistans militery is on the same level as Sudans.

 

[hussain0216]

Pakistan cannot win this war against scandal wearing dust riding militias.
Seems as though Pakistans militery is on the same level as Sudans.

The Pakistani military is a conventional military, set up to fight another conventional military

What you have on the western border is scum bags who look no different to the locals, no uniform, no identification

Then the locals themselves are compromised and complicit

That doesn't mean they openly hide or involve themselves in the conflict

But they spread propaganda and narrative, even about the Durrand line, same with the politicians

This is fuel to the fire


I will say again, over the last few years Pakistan has managed to

Take down the Afghan Republic
Kick the U.S/NATO/India out of Afghanistan
Kick out millions of Afghans from Pakistan
And now embargoed Trade and port access



Because our western border has so many mountains and mountain passes, you are never going to plug it

So Pakistan will be forced to absorb these attacks and then use them to kick out even more Afghans and slowly and gradually punish the Afghan state even more


The best thing we can do is keep the IBOs going
Keep targeting Afghanistan with strikes
And just get that response time on the western border much much more quicker, where we can support under attack security immediately

 

[13 Assassins]

Pakistan cannot win this war against scandal wearing dust riding militias.
Seems as though Pakistans militery is on

The Pakistani military is a conventional military, set up to fight another conventional military

What you have on the western border is scum bags who look no different to the locals, no uniform, no identification

Then the locals themselves are compromised and complicit

That doesn't mean they openly hide or involve themselves in the conflict

But they spread propaganda and narrative, even about the Durrand line, same with the politicians

This is fuel to the fire


I will say again, over the last few years Pakistan has managed to

Take down the Afghan Republic
Kick the U.S/NATO/India out of Afghanistan
Kick out millions of Afghans from Pakistan
And now embargoed Trade and port access



Because our western border has so many mountains and mountain passes, you are never going to plug it

So Pakistan will be forced to absorb these attacks and then use them to kick out even more Afghans and slowly and gradually punish the Afghan state even more


The best thing we can do is keep the IBOs going
Keep targeting Afghanistan with strikes
And just get that response time on the western border much much more quicker, where we can support under attack security immediately

20+ years still facing heavy casualties?

 

[Goenitz]

Pakistan cannot win this war against scandal wearing dust riding militias.
Seems as though Pakistans militery is on the same level as Sudans.

bcz it is not just military ops... the recent attack on policemen occurred where FCs have multiple checkposts.
Tactically, a QRF drone unit can tilt the advantage, but it is mainly a socio-economic issue.

 

[Pak Defender]

Another attack in Khuzdar on the home of Meer Shafiq-ur-Rehman Mengal.

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All the terrorists who attacked Mir Shafiq ur Rehman Mengal home have been killed.

Mir Shafiq ur Rehman Mengal is safe and sound.

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