Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[El Sidd]

Respectfully, why do you think there is anything to mediate? This is a tectonic shift between a waning empire and Iran reclaiming its historical role. Shahbaz Sharif's hugs and kisses cannot impact the massive geopolitical shift in motion. This will only be resolved in the battlefield.

The last mediation resulted in the erosion of Iran's standing. Pakistan cannot be blamed for trying to put an end in the war and elevating its position in the process. Iranians blame the compromising reformists inside Iran for taking every opportunity to give away hard won Iranian gains. Meanwhile Pakistan is deploying forces and materiel in Saudi in the middle of the war. This can only be interpreted as a counter force to Iran.

We like and respect Pakistan and the honorable Pakistani people, but not your politicians. Heck we don't trust our own politicians as you can clearly see.

There are growing voices within Pakistan who are absolutely discontent with Pakistani role as mediator. The country is facing renewed onslaught of terrorism and people are demanding that government exhaust herself in battling that than to mediate between two of the world's powerful and mature empires.

 

[ShapurII]

No wonder the entire might of Israel and the US could not put you folks on the throne in Tehran.

Stupid comment, but no wonder the entire 2 billion Muslims cannot defeat teeny tiny Israel which is the size of a peanut and can do nothing but cry.

 

[Watandar]

This is the Trump base. Not only is Trump out of military options, he is in political peril as well.

 

[tsunset]

 

[Watandar]

I don't expect you to do anything. I can't care less about your opinion on the matter, yet you seem to care about my opinion on that issue very much.
I have never expected you to side with Iran, it is who is obsessed with Iran or this thread lol And it was you who brought it up.

Stupid comment, but no wonder the entire 2 billion Muslims cannot defeat teeny tiny Israel which is the size of a peanut and can do nothing but cry.

Tears of a frustrated and defeated Zionist.

 

[tsunset]

Explosions caused by a gas leak

 

[ShapurII]

Tears of a frustrated and defeated Zionist.

On the contrary, I am quite happy that I almost always end up being right and you always end up being a sore loser. Just one month ago, you guys were discussing the decisive victory of Iran over the US and were talking about the concessions the US has to make for Iran to end the war lol

My predictions about what is going to happen are still there on this very thread. And here's another prediction for you. Israel will do whatever it pleases to Palestine and you losers will continue to shed tears and be humiliated and will do nothing as usual.

And I am anything but a Zionist. In a world where somebody with my thoughts is in power, I would let Jews and Palestinians devour each other and will enjoy it as entertainment. I have zero interests in Zionism or their violent, barbaric religion and culture. The same goes for ungrateful Palestinians who have earned a reputation for stabbing everyone who extended them a hand in the back. I'm sure that's what the majority of the people in the world think as well, excluding some Muslims or evangelical Christians.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

On the contrary, I am quite happy that I almost always end up being right and you always end up being a sore loser. Just one month ago, you guys were discussing the decisive victory of Iran over the US and were talking about the concessions the US has to make for Iran to end the war lol

My predictions about what is going to happen are still there on this very thread. And here's another prediction for you. Israel will do whatever it pleases to Palestine and you losers will continue to shed tears and be humiliated and will do nothing as usual.

And I am anything but a Zionist. In a world where somebody with my thoughts is in power, I would let Jews and Palestinians devour each other and will enjoy it as entertainment. I have zero interests in Zionism or their violent, barbaric religion and culture. The same goes for ungrateful Palestinians who have earned a reputation for stabbing everyone who extended them a hand in the back. I'm sure that's what the majority of the people in the world think as well, excluding some Muslims or evangelical Christians.

I am so planning a trip to Italy. You and I have to be related somehow.

 

[ShapurII]

I am so planning a trip to Italy. You and I have to be related somehow.

On a serious note, I do wish Palestinians would get some sort of justice for the mistreatments they have endured because it's nice to have some justice in the world but it's not like I like Palestinians or anything. They have caused so much trouble in countries that hosted them or helped them.

They're the lesser evil in that conflict in my opinion, mostly because they're the underdog and have no weapons to fight back, but they are not innocent, and neither are they our friends, or pro-Iran.

 

[Watandar]

On the contrary, I am quite happy that I almost always end up being right and you always end up being a sore loser. Just one month ago, you guys were discussing the decisive victory of Iran over the US and were talking about the concessions the US has to make for Iran to end the war lol

My predictions about what is going to happen are still there on this very thread. And here's another prediction for you. Israel will do whatever it pleases to Palestine and you losers will continue to shed tears and be humiliated and will do nothing as usual.

And I am anything but a Zionist. In a world where somebody with my thoughts is in power, I would let Jews and Palestinians devour each other and will enjoy it as entertainment. I have zero interests in Zionism or their violent, barbaric religion and culture. The same goes for ungrateful Palestinians who have earned a reputation for stabbing everyone who extended them a hand in the back. I'm sure that's what the majority of the people in the world think as well, excluding some Muslims or evangelical Christians.

You sound as ridiculous as Donald Trump, who has declared victory in this war at least 40 times in the past 4 1/2 months, despite not achieving a single one of his stated objectives at the beginning.

The political sands are slowly shifting in America and people are tired of these useless forever wars and subsidies for foreign countries. When Israel loses it's American largesse, it will finally face the consequences of its 100 years of war and atrocities against the region.

 

[ShapurII]

You sound as ridiculous as Donald Trump, who has declared victory in this war at least 40 times in the past 4 1/2 months, despite not achieving a single one of his stated objectives at the beginning.

The political sands are slowly shifting in America and people are tired of these useless forever wars and subsidies for foreign countries. When Israel loses it's American largesse, it will finally face the consequences of its 100 years of war and atrocities against the region.

And why do you think I care? Let Israel face the consequences of what they have done. But when that happens, and I'm sure it will happen some day, it won't have anything to do with Muslims who constantly talk about Ummah but won't lift a finger to help other Muslims.

Mark my words, if some day Israel gets some sort of justice for decades of mistreating Palestinians, it will be done by European liberals or people with anti-Semitic sentiments instead of billions of Muslims who have done nothing for each other in recent history and have even tried to eliminate each other at every opportunity.

That aside, how many times did you clowns declare victory over the US here? Trump is a joke, but so are you guys. Fortunately, I never declared victory for any side of the conflict and I always said we should wait and see what would unfold. I was against a premature ceasefire from the very beginning as well. Again, my posts are there.

I also warned that the US and Israel would most likely turn this into a cycle of war, ceasefire, war, ceasefire at least as long as Trump is the office, trying to make Iran implode. Iran seems more eager for negotiating than Trump is, which in my opinion quite clearly shows whose side time is on.

 

[Master Chief]

There are growing voices within Pakistan who are absolutely discontent with Pakistani role as mediator. The country is facing renewed onslaught of terrorism and people are demanding that government exhaust herself in battling that than to mediate between two of the world's powerful and mature empires.

There is nothing to mediate any more. Pakistan risks too much from staying in this great game any longer. Let Iran unleash everything it has. Tehran could find a way to fight off the Americans if it goes great guns - who knows? The location that matters strategically is The Strait of Hormuz. The military supremacy of US is not so clear cut there.

And as we all know, ultimately it is casualties and economic harm that force American military forces to withdraw. Iran has the right to have a full blooded go at them. Let them.

 

[030292]

There is nothing to mediate any more. Pakistan risks too much from staying in this great game any longer. Let Iran unleash everything it has. Tehran could find a way to fight off the Americans if it goes great guns - who knows? The location that matters strategically is The Strait of Hormuz. The military supremacy of US is not so clear cut there.

And as we all know, ultimately it is casualties and economic harm that force American military forces to withdraw. Iran has the right to have a full blooded go at them. Let them.

This 100 percent, the renewed american aggression is a slap on the face of mediators, american and israeli liars have been using mediation and ceasefires as a tool to get an upper hand on the battlefield, they genuinely dont give a F about peace in this region, treachery is in their blood.

 

[Master Chief]

This 100 percent, the renewed american aggression is a slap on the face of mediators, american and israeli liars have been using mediation and ceasefires as a tool to get an upper hand on the battlefield, they genuinely dont give a F about peace in this region, treachery is in their blood.

If we're being fair, I would say Iran also pushed the envelope by demanding some additional leverage over Omani waters, which were not mandated by the MoU (certainly not within this 60 day period). I don't think either belligerent can come away from this latest escalation blame-free!

USA does still seem to be in a hurry though. I can never quite figure out why. This panicked approach will lead to some mistakes. It is up to Iran to actually capitalise on those mistakes this time round.

 

[HAIDER]

Trump made agreement with Iran and disappeared. Nothing happening and Iran from past experience knows these agreements will only buying time to lower the Iran capabilities nothing else. A reason why all of sudden Iran flex muscles and attack Straight of Hormoz , the control of Hormuz is part of US agreement, where Iran-Oman will manage the straight jointly and execute joint mechanism.
They know nothing will come out from this agreement. Trump won't be able to pass any resolution mention in the agreement through US congress due to massive Israeli influence in both houses.