BrahMos: Greek Experts Pitch Indo-Russian Supersonic Cruise Missile To Checkmate S-400 Armed Turkey

[Afif]

Yeah after spending billions of dollars and nine years later, they've suddenly realised how underperforming S400 is!

Yeah, Ukraine's combat experience was very eye opening. And it wasn't billions exactly. It was 1.25 billion for 1 systems (two batteries) and they did not exercise the purchase option for second system to complete the originally quoted 2.5 billions payment. Likely after realising how Russians were bullshiting all along.

 

[Ravenman]

Brahmos alone is not enough.

The economy and militairy industry of Greece cant hold up the Turkish ones.

Its like the Soviet Union who couldnt hold up in the weaponrace against the Americans.

They can buy what they want. Soon they wouldnt have a dime left to buy something for their grandma.

 

[c14-Isotope]

Yeah, Ukraine's combat experience was very eye opening. And it wasn't billions exactly. It was 1.25 billion for 1 systems (two batteries) and they did not exercise the purchase option for second system to complete the originally quoted 2.5 billions payment. Likely after realising how Russians were bullshiting all along.

Ukraine combat experience can be varied for different people, some with a jaundiced brain can come to a conclusion that S400 is "underperforming" while some others with a lil more nuanced brain can conclude that S400 works best as part of a layered air defense system.

They purchased 4 batteries and the it was delivered to them in 2019.

Turkey sells Russian-made S-400 systems to Gulf nation — newspaper

According to the report, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar have been mentioned in this regard, but it is better to wait for an official announcement

tass.com

 

[peacemaker99]

Turkish Frigates armed with 252 ESSM SAMs to stop supersonic anti-ship Missiles including BRAHMOS

But Greek-Indian Warships dont have anything to stop TAYFUN Block3/4 hypersonic anti-ship Ballistic Missiles

You cant stop brahmos. And you definitely cannot stop agni prime.
Brahmos not only flies supersonic but is sea skimming low altutude of a few meters above sea level hugging curvature of earth, below ship radars till it is detected too late. And at that time it continuousky executes s shaped random flight patterns so missile or radar lock is impossible.

Agni prime is a mini icbm that strikes the ship falling from outer space_ dont bother even trying to stop it.

Those frigates are toast

 

[Afif]

Ukraine combat experience can be varied for different people, some with a jaundiced brain can come to a conclusion that S400 is "underperforming" while some others with a lil more nuanced brain can conclude that S400 works best as part of a layered air defense system.

Now you gotta bend extreme backward to justify its performance because India bought them. Russians had them layered in Ukraine with Pantsir and what not. Turns out they couldn't resist old ATACMS or even GMLRS.

They purchased 4 batteries and the it was delivered to them in 2019.

Turkey sells Russian-made S-400 systems to Gulf nation — newspaper

According to the report, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar have been mentioned in this regard, but it is better to wait for an official announcement

tass.com

No, they were supposed to purchase four batteries. But they didn't. 'Cause they never made the payment for next two batteries. That was explicitly stated by Turkish officials. However, most news outlet did not make the distinction and reported it as such.

 

[indo17787]

Now you gotta bend extreme backward to justify its performance because India bought them. Russians had them layered in Ukraine with Pantsir and what not. Turns out they couldn't resist old ATACMS or even GMLRS.

S-400 is mainly meant for dealing with aircraft and cruise missiles. It does have some capability against ballistic missiles but if you want to reliably intercept ballistic missiles, you need dedicated BMD systems like India's AD-1 and in the future, AD-2.

NASAMS (against some rocket threats) and Sky Sabre/CAMM (depending on the target profile) also have capabilities against certain rockets or tactical missiles. Iron Dome is simply one of the best known and most optimized systems for countering rockets and artillery.

 

[c14-Isotope]

Now you gotta bend extreme backward to justify its performance because India bought them. Russians had them layered in Ukraine with Pantsir and what not. Turns out they couldn't resist old ATACMS or even GMLRS.

Not sure why would you project your own insecurities on others, India not just bought them but also used them to its fill.
Also great to know that you have access to all battle reports. ATACMS and GMLRS are reason why Russia doesn't have S400 in active service now!

That was explicitly stated by Turkish officials.

Source?

 

[Afif]

Not sure why would you project your own insecurities on others, India not just bought them but also used them to its fill.

As I said, you are bending backward to explain S400's performance.

Also great to know that you have access to all battle reports.

Ukrainian military literally published verified footages of successful strikes on S400 complexes using GMLRS and ATACMS.

 

[Afif]

S-400 is mainly meant for dealing with aircraft and cruise missiles. It does have some capability against ballistic missiles but if you want to reliably intercept ballistic missiles, you need dedicated BMD systems like India's AD-1 and in the future, AD-2.
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Good for you guys.

 

[c14-Isotope]

As I said, you are bending backward to explain S400's performance.



Ukrainian military literally published verified footages of successful strikes on S400 complexes using GMLRS and ATACMS.

Source?

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[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Brahmos is supposed to sink turkish ships, not stop turkish missiles.

In case of a real war, india will use a volley of agni primes before enemy ships ever leave port.

Are you exporting agni prime to Greece or your mouse? And Turkey will not fight against you directly, In-directly yes (proxy war) Why you think that if you fire your MRBMs at Turkey and will not face the consequences from the whole world?