Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Meengla]

You cannot host American bases, provide airspace and ports, share radar and intelligence information and participate in multiple American wars in the region and then say "we never wanted this war". The GCC absolutely wanted this war and were in bed with the Israelis in selling it to Trump the moron. It was the logical next step after Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Yemen and Lebanon.
I also respect Trita Parsi but nobody is correct in everything. I suspect Trita's profile has risen enough that he was looking for new sponsors for his thinktank with those statements.

No, the GCC Arabs have been powerless. They may have their won Epstein Files and, above all, fear Mossad Assasinations and freezing of their assets. They have hosted the Americans as part of decades old living under the American security umbrella but that doesn't mean they wanted this war. Also, while the Iran of today maybe a bit retrenching, the Iran right after 1979 was into an aggressive geopolitical regional posture and so not too hard to think why the regional countries went for the American security umbrella. Even Pakistan in the 1980s started to feel some effects of the 1979 Iranian revolution.

Anyway, let's ponder a few things worth noting: Why is Saudi Arabia missing from the recent discourse, along with the Saudi (uninvited) participation in the funeral of the Ayatollah. Why is there more and more talk of the so-called STEP alliance? (Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan)? Things are happening behind the scene. Much happening.

 

[Shags101]

Again, why was Iran targeting civilian vessels?

Why has Trump targeted civilian vessels that didn’t obey what he said in waters far away from America also I believe they killed a few Indians in the last attack iran laid out a few simple rules you either play by the rules or you think your above them

 

[Shags101]

Trita Parsi said that 'most' Arab countries didn't want to start this war. Why the EFF would they?! I'd say not just most: 'all' because it would be counter productive to their own interests. But if they resisted Washington then they had seen what happened to the hundreds of billions of $$ of the Russian assets frozen, yachts grabbed, harsh sanctioned imposed once Russia invaded Ukraine.
I had posted a video of Alex Krainer a few days ago where he talked about the conundrum the rich Arab countries face. This forum seems to dismiss their leaders are 'corrupt', or 'cowardly' blah blah but the leaders are responsible for the lives of their own citizens.

No a few wanted this but only a few because they really believed this was going to be a quick war like Venezuela Iranians are going to surrender honestly let’s be honest it was UAE and Saudi Arabia the others had to fall in line or else

 

[BigMela2onin]

Why has Trump targeted civilian vessels that didn’t obey what he said in waters far away from America also I believe they killed a few Indians in the last attack iran laid out a few simple rules you either play by the rules or you think your above them

You don't get it when the US bombs civilians and breaks ceasefires at will, it is good. When Iran fights back, it is bad.

 

[Shags101]

You don't get it when the US bombs civilians and breaks ceasefires at will, it is good. When Iran fights back, it is bad.

ceasefires with the Israelis and now Trump are always one sided if the other guy fights back he’s the offender and they cry about it

 

[Immortals]

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[Immortals]

Another round of attacks on Bahrain

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Meanwhile Iran continues to refrain from striking Qatar, UAE, and Saudi Arabia much at all.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

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They used it many times as their "first time", remember LUCAS hype.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Iran claims attacks on Kuwait airbases.

The IRGC says it has “completely destroyed” fuel tanks and Patriot air defence systems at the Ali Al-Salem airbase, as well as a strategic FPS radar system at the Ahmed Al-Jaber airbase.

In a statement, the IRGC said the attacks were carried out by its aerospace forces during the third phase of its “eye-for-an-eye” operation in response to US military action against Iran.

The IRGC said the operation was continuing

 

[ShapurII]

For how many years people like me told this , you can't be anti American and none nuclear power at same time

Yes, I always insisted on two issues and both were proven right after this war:
1. Iran cannot stand against the US and Israel without nukes.
2. Missiles cannot replace an air force.
We had people who rejected both of these simple facts but I think they are now seeing the results of their arrogance and stubbornness.

Iran's "nuclear threshold" policy has been the most moronic thing that a country has pursued in modern history.

infrastructure strikes against Iran are another form of overthrowing the system since they will lead to state collapse. IRI is too passive and reactive as always, by the time they respond properly Iran will have no infrastructure left already.

Yes, everything the US has done in the last 20 years has been designed to overthrow the system bit by bit by causing massive dissatisfaction among the Iranians and the IR every time plays right into their hands in the most foolish way.

By the way, some of these "news" from Twitter are false. For example, there was no widespread electricity shutdown in Ahvaz. Iranian newspapers have already denied it.

 

[ustaad]

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Spain has gone too bold. My sixth sense is telling me that Mossad will now punish Spanish people using their useful idiots of "(un)Islamic State".

 

[ShapurII]

Even if 10,000 are able to reach the borders of Israel with projectiles, it would be a nightmare for Israel. It seems like Iranians are the same Iranians from the 1980s war with Iraq: Willing to be in human waves.
I wasn't talking about a traditional military formation like in World War One. Israel's Achilles Heel are projectiles from the vicinity of Israel. Relentless.

Are they going to teleport? Because last time I checked, Syria and Jordan are both in the hands of people who would not allow us to pass through their territory. Besides that, your answer to a war of this scale is to fight like in World War I? What are you going to recommend next? Trench warfare if the US starts to invade our southern territory?

At the forum, Iranians told me they possess supersonic anti-ship missiles, and I believe they were not lying. The Houthi rebels in Yemen once successfully attacked an aircraft carrier, and some speculate they used supersonic anti-ship missiles. To be honest, I have never seen Iran use such missiles.

I don't know who told you that, but from what we have seen so far, Iran does not have A2/AD capabilities beyond 700km and I doubt we have supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles. We do have AShBMs though, but their chance of success against an aircraft carrier is probably low.

Besides that, even if the tool is there, the real question is if the willingness to employ it is there as well. Iran has been reluctant to directly kill American soldiers in tens or hundreds.

 

[Magi]

Still not withdrawn from the NPT. That would be the opposite of negotiating. They are probably still calling and begging Trump for a negotiation.

 

[ShapurII]

Still not withdrawn from the NPT. That would be the opposite of negotiating. They are probably still calling and begging Trump for a negotiation.

It doesn't matter anymore, honestly. First of all, the Parliament has been closed because they're curbing all anti-negotiation voices. Secondly, Iran's withdrawal from NPT at this point will be purely symbolic. The window of opportunity to build nuclear weapons has been closed already.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Iran’s army says ‘drone attacks continue against US bases in the region’​

We now have a new statement from Iran on the attacks on Kuwait. This time, its from the Iranian Army.