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Intercepted missiles near Khorramabad

 

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Bavar never made it to [mass] production…

 

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Bavar never made it to [mass] production…

There were a few deployed. Not extensively because these things are quite expensive

 

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Bavar never made it to [mass] production…

It was a research project to learn about long range AD.
Same goes for Talash, Radd which transformed into 15th Khordad and 3rd Khordad.

I'm more hopeful on Arman project, which is road mobile version of 15th khordad and uses vertical launch system.

 

[Immortals]

There were a few deployed. Not extensively because these things are quite expensive

No there was a few prototype launchers built to test the product. Bavar-373 never entered serial production.

It was another Iranian grandiose project trying to emulate what the great powers can produce. In the end it cost Iran greatly when those same funds could have been spent on acquiring Chinese and Russian air defense systems instead of relying on a small order of S-300 to defend the airspace at long range.

I'm more hopeful on Arman project, which is road mobile version of 15th khordad and uses vertical launch system.

Arman battery was picked off in the early weeks of the war. So clearly, it is not capable of survival against an opponent that can locate your air defenses. Wether it was the targeting radar or the command and control node, something was vulnerable in the product chain that allowed US/Israel to exploit and kill it.

 

[Flotilla]

No there was a few prototype launchers built to test the product. Bavar-373 never entered serial production.

It was another Iranian grandiose project trying to emulate what the great powers can produce. In the end it cost Iran greatly when those same funds could have been spent on acquiring Chinese and Russian air defense systems instead of relying on a small order of S-300 to defend the airspace at long range.



Arman battery was picked off in the early weeks of the war. So clearly, it is not capable of survival against an opponent that can locate your air defenses. Wether it was the targeting radar or the command and control node, something was vulnerable in the product chain that allowed US/Israel to exploit and kill it.

Whatever SAM system with radar emissions is easily trackable. From F16 wild weasel (something not that much complicated) to satellites (US has a grid of satellites specialized in SIGINT and can make a map or hostile radar emissions) to EAF18 and F35. It is not a fault of Arman or Bavar or even 3 Khordad, it is a operative limitation.

That is why AD08/Majid have been so successful and other systems like Shahed358/359 did also.

Without air force capable of protecting this advanced SAM systems the best Irán can do it is just hide them until arrive Su35 that would cover these systems.