Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Watched about half of Alex Krainer video. He keeps saying that the rich Arab regimes are afraid of losing their 5 trillion $$ in Western systems, which would have devastating consequences for not only the leaders but also for the countries, afraid of Mossad assassinations in their countries. Per Alex, with the possible exception of MBZ of UAE, there is a realization to not trust in an American led order and to align with Russia, China, and Pakistan but the Arab countries have to be careful doing so, and they would adopt a middle, gradual approach. Per Alex, if $300 billion of Russian assets--a nuclear Superpower-- could be frozen then the 'defenseless' Arab countries are much easier targets for their assets frozen. Alex also saying there is no going back as far as the Western influence is fading in the Middle East.

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Alex also saying there is no going back as far as the Western influence is fading in the Middle East.
Do I got a bridge to sell you..... And do you know how contradictory you're sounding here? If the Arab leadership's [financial] assets hinges on Western hegemony/presence in the region then how could their influence be waning?
 
Trump demands compensation from Gulf countries:

I want our costs covered because we are protecting a very wealthy region of the world.

Take these five countries, for example: Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait—and there are others, too.

We don’t need their oil. We have more oil than any other country. When you include Venezuela, we possess more than half of the world’s oil supply.

However, we need this compensation for reasons such as protecting our allies.


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Filthy Uneducated Arabs to support Israel goals.


Arabs heard the same... and if Arabs had a spine or independence ... defy it!
Tell him we don't need you... instead they have become a collateral for an outside power that would use their ports and infrastructure to target another... while they provide cover to US basss... they cannot say that orange clown started a war of aggression using their land, air and sea. That they're feeling the brunt of his war. That their exports and economic models have been hit severely. That if this war of vanity escalates it'd their infrastructure that would be hit...

Instead, the clown comes from over the top demanding to be compensated for a war he started... a corridor he caused shut... the bases he operates got hit..
A few months back... Qatar feigned shock when zion struck it in broad day light while hosting the largest US base in the region and Orange said he didn't know while it was a security incident for the military stationed there... today... that Qatar cannot export its LNG... has multiple hits and the bases got pounded because they hosted them...

What does Qatar do? Why can't they point the outrage where it is due? Will they instead pay the hog to ruin their fields?

All these littoral statelets need is an agreement with Iran similar to "Montreaux agreement" that allows conditional freedom of passage, regulates tonnage... and caps the warships at any given time.

Instead they'd get wrecked... and keep allowing belligerence from across the globe.
 
No, no, the real question is whether claiming deception is sufficient grounds to attack with civilian traffic within coastal waters of another country.

The answer is a clear NO.
It is when you signed just 15 days ago a paper.

But, if you don't like... I have another answer... US declares regularly wars, attacks and murdering for much less.

So don't be so demanding with iranians...
 
It is when you signed just 15 days ago a paper.

Yes, and that paper - signed by both sides - agrees to free transit to all shipping for 60 days openly, until a final agreement is reached.
 
Stop saying nonsense. They're bombing civilians targets and still putting the ball over the Iranian roof!!!

It is clearly logical to hold the Iranian leadership responsible for the decisions that they are making about how to conduct this war from their side.

It is a blatant LIE to claim that the hospital in Ahvaz was attacked. It was NOT.
 
Could it be so because they jointly see Iran as the greater threat, rightly or worngly?

Take it away... if you hadn't read that post... all the US bases came in the region for a different reason... NONE specific to Iran.

So, sure... if you can retroactively create that rationale... go ahead.
 
Take it away... if you hadn't read that post... all the US bases came in the region for a different reason... NONE specific to Iran.

So, sure... if you can retroactively create that rationale... go ahead.

No really retroactive, that rationale, Sir.

There is a reason the GCC does not have Iran as a member. I will not go into sectarian differences in this thread, or this forum, but clearly they do play a role in this perception that I have mentioned above.

To pretend otherwise is simply self-deception.
 
So what have we gained in return? They recently bombed a cancer hospital full of kids and re-instated the blockade.
The blockade hurts the US just as much and is an example of Trump's stupidity. Gas prices were why he was so eager to sign some sort of ceasefire with Iran and end the last blockade. Read the below article.

Strait of Hormuz Tanker Traffic Erodes Further as Oil Prices Rise​

Very few ships passed through the waterway on the first full day of the U.S. naval blockade of Iran.

Just 13 ships passed through the Strait of Hormuz on Wednesday, the first full day of the reinstated U.S. naval blockade on maritime traffic to and from Iranian ports in the vital waterway.

Traffic through the strait declined markedly, down from 21 the day before, according to Kpler, a maritime data firm. Most of the vessels passed through Iranian waters, using the route Tehran has mandated.

But the U.S. naval blockade was likely to severely diminish Iran’s hold over the strait and its ability to act as a gatekeeper of traffic and bring in revenue through sales of its oil. U.S. Central Command said on Wednesday that it had intercepted two ships that were trying to cross the blockade.

Of the ships that transited the strait on Wednesday, five were sanctioned, according to Kpler. Some ships sail with their tracking devices turned off, obscuring their precise routes and making it hard to have a complete picture of shipping activity.

The stealth tactics also make it hard to immediately know where ships ended up after passing through the strait.

The dwindling traffic comes as fighting between Iran and the United States over the strait, which is a critical thoroughfare for oil and gas shipments, extended into a sixth day. The blockade has added to the uncertainties facing shippers looking to move oil in and out of the region. Before the start of the war, more than 130 vessels passed through the strait on average each day.

During the first U.S. blockade, in effect from April until mid-June, forces redirected more than 140 ships and disabled nine near the Strait of Hormuz and further afield, preventing them from reaching their final destinations and depriving Iran of billions in oil revenue.

The renewed blockade could hit oil prices harder than the first one, which saw prices soaring as high as $120 a barrel by the end of April. Now, after months of fighting, global oil reserves are even lower as national and commercial stockpiles were tapped to minimize shortages.

Neither the United States nor Iran wants the strait to be completely closed, but neither side appears willing to make significant concessions, said Ben May, the director of global macroeconomic research at Oxford Economics. Prolonged tension seems inevitable, he said.


“As a result, shipping firms will limit or stop voyages through the strait and Gulf states will redouble efforts to diversify routes, eventually reducing the strait’s strategic importance,” he said.

Oil prices rise as diesel hits $5 a gallon.​

  • On Thursday, Brent crude, the international benchmark for oil, was up slightly from the previous day to $84 a barrel; prices have remained elevated since the hostilities were reignited this week. West Texas Intermediate crude, the U.S. benchmark, inched up to nearly $80 a barrel
  • The average price of diesel in the United States rose above $5 a gallon again on Thursday, up 7 cents from the day before and 33 percent since the start of the war with Iran. Diesel prices first surpassed $5 in March before retreating when Iran and the United States agreed to a tentative cease-fire that has since fallen apart. But the renewed fighting as well as reduced refinery capacity is once again pushing up prices at the pump.
  • Stocks were subdued on Thursday. S&P 500 futures indicated that trading would open lower when markets opened in the United States. Europe’s benchmark index Stoxx 600 also fell. Markets in Asia finished lower, with Japan’s Nikkei 225 declining 2.8 percent and South Korea’s KOSPI tumbling 6.4 percent.
 
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No really retroactive, that rationale, Sir.

There is a reason the GCC does not have Iran as a member. I will not go into sectarian differences in this thread, or this forum, but clearly they do play a role in this perception that I have mentioned above.

To pretend otherwise is simply self-deception.

Don't make stuff up.

Back it up.
GCC was primarily made to standardize things among those states...
https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...-war-on-iran-iran-responds.14927/post-1251296

Hopefully that helps.
 
Don't make stuff up.

Back it up.
GCC was primarily made to standardize things among those states...
https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...-war-on-iran-iran-responds.14927/post-1251296

Hopefully that helps.

Of course that only goes to show that it is not my responsibility to remove anyone's self-deception, Sir.

Please feel free to pretend as you wish in this matter.

Geopolitically, Iran remains isolated for a myriad of reasons, and that remains an unfortunate reality.
 

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