VCheng
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Yes, and that paper - signed by both sides - agrees to free transit to all shipping for 60 days openly, until a final agreement is reached.
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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Yes, and that paper - signed by both sides - agrees to free transit to all shipping for 60 days openly, until a final agreement is reached.
VCheng
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It is clearly logical to hold the Iranian leadership responsible for the decisions that they are making about how to conduct this war from their side.
It is a blatant LIE to claim that the hospital in Ahvaz was attacked. It was NOT.
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ
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Take it away... if you hadn't read that post... all the US bases came in the region for a different reason... NONE specific to Iran.
So, sure... if you can retroactively create that rationale... go ahead.
VCheng
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No really retroactive, that rationale, Sir.
There is a reason the GCC does not have Iran as a member. I will not go into sectarian differences in this thread, or this forum, but clearly they do play a role in this perception that I have mentioned above.
To pretend otherwise is simply self-deception.
Watandar
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The blockade hurts the US just as much and is an example of Trump's stupidity. Gas prices were why he was so eager to sign some sort of ceasefire with Iran and end the last blockade. Read the below article.
Strait of Hormuz Tanker Traffic Erodes Further as Oil Prices Rise
Very few ships passed through the waterway on the first full day of the U.S. naval blockade of Iran.Just 13 ships passed through the Strait of Hormuz on Wednesday, the first full day of the reinstated U.S. naval blockade on maritime traffic to and from Iranian ports in the vital waterway.
Traffic through the strait declined markedly, down from 21 the day before, according to Kpler, a maritime data firm. Most of the vessels passed through Iranian waters, using the route Tehran has mandated.
But the U.S. naval blockade was likely to severely diminish Iran’s hold over the strait and its ability to act as a gatekeeper of traffic and bring in revenue through sales of its oil. U.S. Central Command said on Wednesday that it had intercepted two ships that were trying to cross the blockade.
Of the ships that transited the strait on Wednesday, five were sanctioned, according to Kpler. Some ships sail with their tracking devices turned off, obscuring their precise routes and making it hard to have a complete picture of shipping activity.
The stealth tactics also make it hard to immediately know where ships ended up after passing through the strait.
The dwindling traffic comes as fighting between Iran and the United States over the strait, which is a critical thoroughfare for oil and gas shipments, extended into a sixth day. The blockade has added to the uncertainties facing shippers looking to move oil in and out of the region. Before the start of the war, more than 130 vessels passed through the strait on average each day.
During the first U.S. blockade, in effect from April until mid-June, forces redirected more than 140 ships and disabled nine near the Strait of Hormuz and further afield, preventing them from reaching their final destinations and depriving Iran of billions in oil revenue.
The renewed blockade could hit oil prices harder than the first one, which saw prices soaring as high as $120 a barrel by the end of April. Now, after months of fighting, global oil reserves are even lower as national and commercial stockpiles were tapped to minimize shortages.
Neither the United States nor Iran wants the strait to be completely closed, but neither side appears willing to make significant concessions, said Ben May, the director of global macroeconomic research at Oxford Economics. Prolonged tension seems inevitable, he said.
“As a result, shipping firms will limit or stop voyages through the strait and Gulf states will redouble efforts to diversify routes, eventually reducing the strait’s strategic importance,” he said.
Oil prices rise as diesel hits $5 a gallon.
- On Thursday, Brent crude, the international benchmark for oil, was up slightly from the previous day to $84 a barrel; prices have remained elevated since the hostilities were reignited this week. West Texas Intermediate crude, the U.S. benchmark, inched up to nearly $80 a barrel
- The average price of diesel in the United States rose above $5 a gallon again on Thursday, up 7 cents from the day before and 33 percent since the start of the war with Iran. Diesel prices first surpassed $5 in March before retreating when Iran and the United States agreed to a tentative cease-fire that has since fallen apart. But the renewed fighting as well as reduced refinery capacity is once again pushing up prices at the pump.
- Stocks were subdued on Thursday. S&P 500 futures indicated that trading would open lower when markets opened in the United States. Europe’s benchmark index Stoxx 600 also fell. Markets in Asia finished lower, with Japan’s Nikkei 225 declining 2.8 percent and South Korea’s KOSPI tumbling 6.4 percent.
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Persian Gulf
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Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ
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Don't make stuff up.
Back it up.
GCC was primarily made to standardize things among those states...
https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...-war-on-iran-iran-responds.14927/post-1251296
Hopefully that helps.
Ali_Baba
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This will be the next flashpoint in this conflict.
And the question is will the Saudi's and UAE and Israel, USA all work together against the Houthis ? The airbase in Somaliland is basically ready now for UAE + IDF IAF to use.
VCheng
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Of course that only goes to show that it is not my responsibility to remove anyone's self-deception, Sir.
Please feel free to pretend as you wish in this matter.
Geopolitically, Iran remains isolated for a myriad of reasons, and that remains an unfortunate reality.
Ali_Baba
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VCheng
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12.58333°, 43.41667°
This will be the next flashpoint in this conflict.
Probably not likely for the foreseeable future.
RescueRanger
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We will have to "wait and see" (TM)
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ
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So why bother heng?
You don't even know what you're talking about... it is whatever reconciles with your personal rationale anyways.
If you had a rebuttal you wouldn't have quoted me to say that... move on.
It is until it isn't!
Nature works in mysterious ways.
RescueRanger
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Perhaps.
Meengla
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Watch the Alex Krainer video I posted just above and watch only half hour of it and then sell any bridge or river or yacht to him as I was merely giving a gist of his video.
But my understanding of Alex is thus: The Western influence in the region is based on a historic protection pledge to the rich Arab countries and by now, as Alex says, the regional countries, with the exception of perhaps MBZ of UAE, have realized that it was a false protection promise and they are thinking of getting out of the old order but slowly, so as to not jeopardize their 5 $ trillion. And that is a practical route forward.
