Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Fair enough. I will accept that statement at face value without contesting it.

Do you think that being less evil will help, or hinder, Iran in its present war?
Lol. What happened to "geopolitics and the mechanics that govern them is all that matters. Morality and its subjective range of interpretation is of no relevance to geopolitical determination"?
 
Yeah, it’s not possible to reconcile with the MOU wording, at least during the first 60 days.

Or the fact that Oman has every right to do whatever it wants with its waters for whatever reason it sees fit, by law. Even by the MOU Iran would have needed Oman's agreement on whatever future it saw for the Strait. But since it is not directly in the interest of Iran, Oman is now the devil for doing exactly what they have been defending for Iran.

The US out played Iran on the Strait in the MOU, dick move but well played and well within the norms of geopolitics. Someone in Iran then overreacted and put all the rest that they had fought for and achieved in jeopardy.
 
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They have hypersonic anti ship missiles from china. And cruise missiles as well.
I guess the anti-ship missiles are not good enough to overcome US naval defenses. Trump has mentioned the Lincoln carrier group fending off attacks many times.

I think the last time Iran managed to hit a US ship was using an Exocet back in the 1980's.
 

No shortage of such intriguing philosophical thoughts on this thread!

Such as, confusing a thought so childish it is not worth contesting to somehow contradicting incorrigible geopolitical principles. :D

What is clear is that one does not win wars by assuming a moral high ground.


Anyways, I do not think anyone benefits from fragmenting Iran, so that is a possibility that remains highly unlikely.
 
The Gulf countries allowed the US to host bases for their own protection, not for attacks on any other country. How does that make these countries legitimate targets?

And the immense restraint being shown by these Gulf countries is beyond my imagination. However, there will eventually come a time when they start to retaliate. And these Gulf Countries have thousands of Bombs and Missiles for Ground operations using their state of their Air Forces. They can really take the war to Iran when they eventually decide enough is enough......and they can replenish weapons very quickly from all around the globe with the kind of money they have.

Why people like you want GCC countries to be targetted is also beyond me.
Allowing bases on their land and foreign troops makes them a legitimate target. If they attack Iran and their sovereignty - then they ought to expect to be smashed.
Simple
 
These mullahs scream death to america , sacrifice the Iranian nation and people for some pan islamic cause.

Yet nothing is reciprocated. The people Iran is supposedly fighting for wouldnt trade a saudi jamals left nut for the entire Iranian nation or people. Sad and pathetic.

Say what you want about fuckin pahlavis. At least they are consistent. They will open ass for israel and US. But build a strong economic base

Sounds alot more appealing then endless wars, sanctions, and terrible war and nuclear policy , and all the other shit the mullahs are offering.

Iran will not survive another khamenei. He is following his dads failed policy. No nukes, no risks, no escalation. Just let the enemy slowly suffocate you ecomomicaly and now militarily.

This is comepletely ok with khamenei. Another 20 years of this would suit him and his smuggler friends very well. **** Iran, 5e Iranian people and the state
Pahlavis strong economic base is a hollowed out industry and IMF dependent shithole that will turn Iran into egypt.
 
Allowing bases on their land and foreign troops makes them a legitimate target. If they attack Iran and their sovereignty - then they ought to expect to be smashed.
Simple

That guy is obviously lying!

Those bases are there to project US power.

Not for protecting those countries.

They have been used to facilitate attacks on Iran.

Those bases are a daily humiliation for any self respecting Muslim!!

And anyway, no offence, any country that needs “protected” - probably shouldn’t exist.
 
Allowing bases on their land and foreign troops makes them a legitimate target. If they attack Iran and their sovereignty - then they ought to expect to be smashed.
Simple

Agreed 101%.
 

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