China backed cooper mine threatens Pakistan shutdown over security risk

[royalharris]

To be honest, I don’t want to complicate the issue, and this post is about China’s investments in Pakistan, so I will focus on expanding my thoughts around the topic. Why does China invest in Pakistan? Pakistan is a member of the Belt and Road Initiative, a strategic all-weather partner of China, and also a member of the BRICS countries. Pakistan and China share multiple layers of partnership. Since you have studied in China, you should understand how we value national partnerships, which influence our policy inclinations.
To answer your other question, why China chose Pakistan over India, India has a larger market and more investment opportunities. Smart people would choose India over Pakistan, as it is clearly more promising than Pakistan.
As I mentioned above, China values partnerships between nations, which is a significant inclination in its policies. Pakistan ranks higher on our list of national partners than India, and that is the reason.

Take off your hypocritical disguise. Either it is ignorance, or it is hypocrisy.

Europe is a positive asset to the United States, while Pakistan is almost a negative asset to China. Don’t make it sound as if China is so much greater than the United States. Look at how the United States treats Europe today.

When you help a poor country, it always feels that your help is not enough, wants to drain you completely, and at the same time curses you for being rich but unkind. But when you do business with a wealthy country, both countries can benefit together based on commercial contracts.

 

[wangdefa]

Why would China want to invest in India in large scale and help it develop its industries ? That would be insane and suicide since India is hostile to China in nearly every aspect including land claims and border clashes. The main interest between China and India is limited mostly to trade. India is not even a friendly country to China so cooperation can only be very limited.

I can understand what you are trying to express. Last year, there were also others who asked similar questions on the Iran section. In fact, it is evident from the ranking of China's partnerships with various countries that, whether in economic and trade cooperation or military cooperation, the level of China's implementation aligns with the ranking on the list.

 

[wangdefa]

Take off your hypocritical disguise. Either it is ignorance, or it is hypocrisy.

Europe is a positive asset to the United States, while Pakistan is almost a negative asset to China. Don’t make it sound as if China is so much greater than the United States. Look at how the United States treats Europe today.

When you help a poor country, it always feels that your help is not enough, wants to drain you completely, and at the same time curses you for being rich but unkind. But when you do business with a wealthy country, both countries can benefit together based on commercial contracts.

This is the difference between Eastern and Western cultures. You can change a president to implement a different policy direction, and each new government starts anew. So what you want to express is correct from your perspective.

We are a long-term policy, and you truly cannot understand that we are not influenced by external circumstances. Unless Pakistan, like the West, changes its government and actively withdraws to lower bilateral relations, we will not damage our relationship with each other.

I'm sorry, neither you nor I can assess how the next U.S. administration will treat Europe—whether it will improve or continue to deteriorate—but everyone can assess China and Pakistan. That's the difference.
Business requires an environment of long-term stability.

 

[royalharris]

This is the difference between Eastern and Western cultures. You can change a president to implement a different policy direction, and each new government starts anew. So what you want to express is correct from your perspective.

We are a long-term policy, and you truly cannot understand that we are not influenced by external circumstances. Unless Pakistan, like the West, changes its government and actively withdraws to lower bilateral relations, we will not damage our relationship with each other.

I'm sorry, neither you nor I can assess how the next U.S. administration will treat Europe—whether it will improve or continue to deteriorate—but everyone can assess China and Pakistan. That's the difference.
Business requires an environment of long-term stability.

Fine.
History will prove that China’s investment in Pakistan will ultimately come to nothing, and China will end up being blamed by Pakistanis instead.
The only Muslim region worth investing in is the Gulf region. They value trade, contracts, and integrity. This is also why the Gulf countries are the wealthiest Muslim countries, and why large amounts of foreign capital are willing to invest in the Gulf.

 

[wangdefa]

Fine.
History will prove that China’s investment in Pakistan will ultimately come to nothing, and China will end up being blamed by Pakistanis instead.
The only Muslim region worth investing in is the Gulf region. They value trade, contracts, and integrity. This is also why the Gulf countries are the wealthiest Muslim countries, and why large amounts of foreign capital are willing to invest in the Gulf.

After long-term observation, Gulf countries such as Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Qatar are also part of our third-tier relationships. China has significant investment plans in these countries, but due to their status as the third tier, military cooperation is limited.
Pakistan is among the first tier, so the corresponding authority includes military cooperation.

India is in our sixth tier, so it is not recommended.

 

[ety]

Political posturing against China amount to nothing more than symbolic gestures

yet trading with China delivers tangible economic benefits and supports people’s livelihoods.We welcome deeper and expanded economic cooperation between China and Australia, as Australia’s mineral resources are vastly superior to those of Pakistan

For Australia to have a really deep cooperation with China, first Aussies have to change their mindset and accept that Australia is a Asia-Pacific country, it floats and sinks with the region, but not some white European outpost still.

 

[royalharris]

For Australia to have a really deep cooperation with China, first Aussies have to change their mindset and accept that Australia is a Asia-Pacific country, it floats and sinks with the region, but not some white European outpost still.

Many Chinese people are too naive and too rigid, like frogs sitting at the bottom of a well. Australia verbally opposes China because it is politically necessary. Which European country is not like this, opposing China on one hand while doing business with China on the other?

Australia is far from both China and the United States and does not want to get involved in a China-U.S. conflict, but before China surpasses the United States, political slogans and statements are still necessary.

 

[wangdefa]

Many Chinese people are too naive and too rigid, like frogs sitting at the bottom of a well. Australia verbally opposes China because it is politically necessary. Which European country is not like this, opposing China on one hand while doing business with China on the other?

Australia is far from both China and the United States and does not want to get involved in a China-U.S. conflict, but before China surpasses the United States, political slogans and statements are still necessary.

Without a solid foundation of upper-level connections, you cannot implement any agreement, and this is a very realistic situation.
If political relations cannot be maintained, how can you sustain economic and trade relations?
You shouldn't let politics become emotional, as it means you might change your mind tomorrow.
Trump is the best example.

 

[Master Chief]

Take off your hypocritical disguise. Either it is ignorance, or it is hypocrisy.

Europe is a positive asset to the United States, while Pakistan is almost a negative asset to China. Don’t make it sound as if China is so much greater than the United States. Look at how the United States treats Europe today.

When you help a poor country, it always feels that your help is not enough, wants to drain you completely, and at the same time curses you for being rich but unkind. But when you do business with a wealthy country, both countries can benefit together based on commercial contracts.

You seem to be angry at everyone on the thread for some reason. What on earth does it matter to you that China and Pakistan will continue to work together in a variety of fields of mutual interest?

 

[Master Chief]

Fine.
History will prove that China’s investment in Pakistan will ultimately come to nothing, and China will end up being blamed by Pakistanis instead.
The only Muslim region worth investing in is the Gulf region. They value trade, contracts, and integrity. This is also why the Gulf countries are the wealthiest Muslim countries, and why large amounts of foreign capital are willing to invest in the Gulf.

Careful. Mask is slipping.

 

[royalharris]

You seem to be angry at everyone on the thread for some reason. What on earth does it matter to you that China and Pakistan will continue to work together in a variety of fields of mutual interest?

China is the largest consumer of resources.
In terms of minerals, Australia is a resource-exporting country.
Australia needs to cooperate with China to develop mineral resources.
In copper mining, we are competitors.

in addition, I studied in China and I like China and Chinese culture.Find more suitable partners for China and Australia, respectively.

 

[Master Chief]

China is the largest consumer of resources.
In terms of minerals, Australia is a resource-exporting country.
Australia needs to cooperate with China to develop mineral resources.
In copper mining, we are competitors.

in addition, I studied in China and I like China and Chinese culture.

Absolute cock and bull of no relevance to the relationship that China and Pakistan have, which goes far beyond a mere economic one. You don't know your history and simply have a malevolent agenda, which is clear for all to see here. Carry on though. I have no problem with you continuing to embarrass yourself for free.

 

[royalharris]

Forget it.
If China is willing to waste resources on these poor, greedy people, that’s China’s own business.
Australia has some of the world’s top mines, as well as excellent infrastructure and a strong business environment.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@royalharris

while Pakistan is almost a negative asset to China.

No. It is not. Pakistan is a place where PRC can implement useless infrastructure projects at inflated costs, using its own machinery, materials and labour- and earn Shylockian returns.

Regards

 

[wangdefa]

Political posturing against China amount to nothing more than symbolic gestures

This reminds me of a little story about a man and a woman on the internet.
Although she goes on dates and has affairs with others every day, she tells you that she still loves you, and you still need to pay for her date bills.

That's called cheating, it's betrayal.
Shit