US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

Persian Gulf said:
Yeah, and who must pay for the 1953 coup organised by the US?
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Just giving the perspective of Donald Trump, again, who has stated several times over the years, Iran will pay for the Iranian Hostage Crisis. Posted a few video clips on PDF over the past several months with Trump stating this.
 

He is definitely concerned about the mid-terms, especially by Democrats investigating and impeaching him. ​

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Trump says midterms won’t impact his Iran war plan​

Republicans are increasingly anxious over the potential ramifications of the war amid rising gas prices and the death of three soldiers since fighting resumed.

 
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RescueRanger said:
Pretty sure those batteries are operated by US service personnel acting as tac advisors from Air Defense Artillery?

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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The Jordanian air defense are using some of their own systems, that they procured for themselves to protect themselves from Israel, in defending Israel. Go figure!

I am sure there are some US systems doing some heavy lifting, but ironic to see Jordanians spend their tax dollars defending Israel ..
 
At last Pakistan is defending it's economic well being, we cannot have our people suffer due to US and Iranian whims. Lets see if Iran stops any Pak vessels.

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"The FO said threats against commercial shipping and trade with Saudi Arabia are unacceptable and violate established principles of international law. It also expressed concern over reports of threats targeting vessels engaged in lawful commercial trade with the Kingdom."

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Pakistan condemns Houthi threats against Saudi Arabia, Red Sea shipping

FO warns hostilities against Pakistan's interests to draw response.Says Pakistan reserves right to use force to protect maritime assets.Adds threats undermine freedom of navigation, global commercial trade.ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Wednesday...
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Persian Gulf said:
Fair points but any land occupation is inherently vulnerable to Iranian drone and missile strikes (even FPV strikes from 10-60km away). We saw this very clearly in Hezbollah's repeated strikes against IDF occupied military bases in small stretches of south Lebanon. Would the US be less vulnerable in occupying such a comparatively vast amount of land in Iran than the Israelis in south Lebanon? I don't think there is compelling evidence for this. Remember Trump also hates Iran for helping the Iraqis resist American occupation and killing 600+ US soldiers there.

And politically such an occupation would be very costly for POTUS given the war is already extremely unpopular and POTUS told his base he would avoid new wars. Air wars enable the US to minimise casualties and that is clearly a political priority for the US.
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Israel's operations in Lebanon and any hypothetical US operation in Iran are not directly comparable.

In my opinion, the United States possesses a far greater ability to project military power than Israel, both in terms of manpower and overall military capabilities.

I think what you're describing is the IRGC abandoning conventional warfare and instead fighting as a resistance or insurgent movement rather than as a professional military force. If that became necessary because they could no longer defend Iranian territory through conventional means, I would view it as a sign that Iran's conventional military capabilities had been severely degraded. In that sense, the conflict would have entered a very different phase.

In my view, that would be comparable to situations where a state's ability to exercise independent military and foreign policy has been significantly constrained following a major conflict. For example, after the 2003 Iraq War, Iraq's sovereignty and decision-making in defence and foreign affairs were heavily influenced by the presence and role of the US-led coalition for a prolonged period. While the historical circumstances are different, the comparison illustrates how the character of a state's sovereignty can change after a major military defeat.

And don't worry about US public opinion. Generals aren't making operational decisions based on opinion polls.
 
Pakistan Space Agency said:
Israel's operations in Lebanon and any hypothetical US operation in Iran are not directly comparable.

In my opinion, the United States possesses a far greater ability to project military power than Israel, both in terms of manpower and overall military capabilities.

I think what you're describing is the IRGC abandoning conventional warfare and instead fighting as a resistance or insurgent movement rather than as a professional military force. If that became necessary because they could no longer defend Iranian territory through conventional means, I would view it as a sign that Iran's conventional military capabilities had been severely degraded. In that sense, the conflict would have entered a very different phase.

In my view, that would be comparable to situations where a state's ability to exercise independent military and foreign policy has been significantly constrained following a major conflict. For example, after the 2003 Iraq War, Iraq's sovereignty and decision-making in defence and foreign affairs were heavily influenced by the presence and role of the US-led coalition for a prolonged period. While the historical circumstances are different, the comparison illustrates how the character of a state's sovereignty can change after a major military defeat.

And don't worry about US public opinion. Generals aren't making operational decisions based on opinion polls.
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U.S. has greater ability to project power than Israel, sure, but greater ability to project power 10,000km away in a much larger country vs Israel projecting power on its short borders with Lebanon? I don’t think that’s a sound assessment. Certainly not in terms of ability to protect those troops. Nothing from the experience of the U.S. occupation of Iraq or Afghanistan supports your contention that they can protect their troops better than Israel can protect its own troops in small areas of South Lebanon.

Iran’s defence strategy was always asymmetric. Nothing new there. It doesn’t mean the conventional military is degraded, that is the conventional military approach.

And generals don’t make decisions based on public opinion, but the politicians who give the general their orders definitely do.
 
RescueRanger said:
The approval of the use of Akrotiri, Lakenheath, Mildenhall and Diago Garcia coupled with the increased RAF presence in CENTCOM over past 18 hours indicates expansion of UK role in providing support to the US operations in CENTCOM AOR directed towards Iran.

As I have mentioned previously on July 16th - the Royal Navy and NATO Mine Hunters are now operating in the Middle East:
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This ship is escorted by the following two German Navy vessels:
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FGS Fulda is built of non-magnetic steel and was commissioned in 1998. She is optimised for mine warfare in coastal waters and deployments out of the NATO area for these vessels is rare. She typically carries a crew of around 40 to 45, including mine clearance divers. She has a hull-mounted sonar and would deploy divers or an ROV to neutralise mines.

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FGS Mosel is designed to sustain of smaller warships such as minehunters, corvettes and fast patrol craft. She can act as a command ship and carries fuel, fresh water, ammunition, provisions and spare parts, and has workshops and medical facilities.

In this aerial shot she appears to be escorted by Royal Navy destroyer HMS Dragon
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HMS Dragon is one of the most advanced warships in the world, the Type 45 destroyer is capable of shooting down the types of drones and ballistic missiles being launched by Iran.
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Helenic Navy arrives to lead command of the European Union Naval Force Operation ASPIDES to maintain safe shipping lanes and maritime traffic in the Red Sea:
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Transfer of Command from the Italians to the Greek
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Hellenic Frigate HS PSARA [Greece], operating under EUNAVFOR ASPIDES, provided support to a merchant vessel (MV) crossing the Red Sea.

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The Italian Frigate BERGAMINI operating under EUNAVFOR ASPIDES provided support to a merchant vessel, crossing the Area of Operations.

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A French destroyer operating under EUNAVFOR ASPIDES provided support to a MV crossing the Area of Operations.

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EUNAVFOR Marines undergoing exercises drills for VBSS in the Red Sea.
 
RescueRanger said:
Helenic Navy arrives to lead command of the European Union Naval Force Operation ASPIDES to maintain safe shipping lanes and maritime traffic in the Red Sea:
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Transfer of Command from the Italians to the Greek
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Hellenic Frigate HS PSARA [Greece], operating under EUNAVFOR ASPIDES, provided support to a merchant vessel (MV) crossing the Red Sea.

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The Italian Frigate BERGAMINI operating under EUNAVFOR ASPIDES provided support to a merchant vessel, crossing the Area of Operations.

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A French destroyer operating under EUNAVFOR ASPIDES provided support to a MV crossing the Area of Operations.

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EUNAVFOR Marines undergoing exercises drills for VBSS in the Red Sea.
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Repeating the failed mission again.
 
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