US Perspective on the Iran - Israel / US War

[Persian Gulf]

From a US perspective, You hired Pakistani and Afghani people from within Pakistan and Afghan to fight your wars in Syria, Yemen and to create pressure groups in Pakistan and Afghanistan. You supplied Yemen with weapons so it can attack Saudi. But when America/Israel does that with Kurds, suddenly they become terrorists. While you accuse others of being terrorists. Why is that when Iran does, it is kosher and when someone else does, like USA hiring Kurds to fight Iranians, suddenly you and other iranians on this board remembers morality and definition of terrorism? I just wanna understand this mentality.

We hired Pakistanis and Afghans to fight in Yemen? I am not aware of this. "From a US perspective", the last country in the world that can ever talk about foreign interventions is the US, so it is better if you speak from a Pakistani or even Qatari perspective.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Let's not have double standards. There are high level Israeli spies within Iranian government who would embrace/hug jewish leaders if the current regime falls.

That is your speculation in your fantasy that Iran is an ally of Israel just like many of the Arabs actually are. And even if that happened (impossible), I would condemn it. So where is the double standard?

 

[The SC]

we are talking about Egypt, Jordan, Bahrain, UAE, Morocco, and Sudan.

I do not generalise, I said clearly that it is good that Saudi Arabia did not join them.

So by the same token can you condemn these Arab states and admit they are working against the Muslim interest, specifically UAE and Bahrain?

Unless you think Iran is the Muslim world..you are erring too wildly with this..
Both the UAE and Bahrain want trade, they even allow Iran to do business on their land..They are Arab tests to see how this Abrahamic accord works in reality..

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Persian Gulf]

Unless you think Iran is the Muslim world..you are erring too wildly with this..
Both the UAE and Bahrain want trade, they even allow Iran to do business on their land..They are Arab tests to see how this Abrahamic accord works in reality..

You want to test if trade with Israel works while they commit a genocide of Arab Muslims? What the hell is this logic? Arabs should have more honour than to sell their fellow Arabs for some "trade".

 

[Bratva]

We hired Pakistanis and Afghans to fight in Yemen? I am not aware of this. "From a US perspective", the last country in the world that can ever talk about foreign interventions is the US, so it is better if you speak from a Pakistani or even Qatari perspective.

Are you in US perspective thread or a Pakistani/Qatari Perspective thread? Let's not loose perspective. Iran and US had/have a habit of foreign interventions. Lebanon, Iraq,Yemen, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan. You just did it again. . Played the victim card while simultaneously justifying Iranian proxy groups all over the region.

 

[The SC]

That is your speculation in your fantasy that Iran is an ally of Israel just like many of the Arabs actually are. And even if that happened (impossible), I would condemn it. So where is the double standard?

Don't switch that to Arabs.. Even in the time of Khomeini..you had the Iran gate..

 

[royalharris]

In the US-Iran standoff, it would be acceptable for Iran to strike the US or Israel, as well as American military bases across the Gulf.
Why, though, is it hitting civilian infrastructure, refineries and sea lanes of Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Jordan and others? These nations never declared war on Iran or attacked it. For nearly half a month, Iran has not launched one projectile at Israel or the US.
To many people, Iran is only an anti-US and Israel in words, while acting as a butcher of fellow Muslims.

 

[The SC]

You want to test if trade with Israel works while they commit a genocide of Arab Muslims? What the hell is this logic? Arabs should have more honour than to sell their fellow Arabs for some "trade".

Nope you should have kept your hands to yourselves and did not intervene in Arab affairs..they wanted a diplomatic two state solution to the Palestinian conflict and you sabotaged their work because you wanted war..

Arabs have teached you honor by destroying your empire 3 times..don't get too arrogant..

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

From a US perspective, You hired Pakistani and Afghani people from within Pakistan and Afghan to fight your wars in Syria, Yemen and to create pressure groups in Pakistan and Afghanistan. You supplied Yemen with weapons so it can attack Saudi. But when America/Israel does that with Kurds, suddenly they become terrorists. While you accuse others of being terrorists. Why is that when Iran does, it is kosher and when someone else does, like USA hiring Kurds to fight Iranians, suddenly you and other iranians on this board remembers morality and definition of terrorism? I just wanna understand this mentality.

Your question is why Iran accuses Israel and USA of being terrorists? Serious bro? you're asking this question with a straight face?

 

[Bratva]

That is your speculation in your fantasy that Iran is an ally of Israel just like many of the Arabs actually are. And even if that happened (impossible), I would condemn it. So where is the double standard?

I was very clear in my post. That Iranian government is riddled with israeli spies and would meet Jewish leaders if present regime falls. Where is the speculation/fantasy in that? Please do read my post again with a cool mind and don't make interpretations which I didn't mean.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Are you in US perspective thread or a Pakistani/Qatari Perspective thread? Let's not loose perspective. Iran and US had/have a habit of foreign interventions. Lebanon, Iraq,Yemen, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan. You just did it again. . Played the victim card while simultaneously justifying Iranian proxy groups all over the region.

To compare Iran's record of foreign intervention to the US is simply hilarious. Every powerful country intervenes in a bunch of other countries. Look at the UAE intervening in Sudan and Syria, and Saudi invading Yemen and blockading Qatar. The US has bombed / invaded every country on your list, while Iran arms the people of those countries to resist Israeli / US attacks. Not quite the same.

Iran belongs to this region, the US is travelling 10,000km away to invade these countries and has no business in this region.

Iran and the Arabs should resolve their conflicts themselves without involvement from imperialist foreign powers.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I was very clear in my post. That Iranian government is riddled with israeli spies and would meet Jewish leaders if present regime falls. Where is the speculation/fantasy in that? Please do read my post again with a cool mind and don't make interpretations which I didn't mean.

"would meet Jewish leaders if present regime falls" is the speculation. If that happens, I would condemn it, just as I condemn the Arabs actually meeting with Zionists, which you notably cannot condemn as you are obsessed with bashing Iran instead.

 

[Bratva]

Your question is why Iran accuses Israel and USA of being terrorists? Serious bro? you're asking this question with a straight face?

Re-read my post. Read it again 3rd time and read the post I was replying to, so you understand the context of discussion, then you can jumpin and ask me what I meant or else we'll both go off-topic.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

In the US-Iran standoff, it would be acceptable for Iran to strike the US or Israel, as well as American military bases across the Gulf.
Why, though, is it hitting civilian infrastructure, refineries and sea lanes of Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Jordan and others? These nations never declared war on Iran or attacked it. For nearly half a month, Iran has not launched one projectile at Israel or the US.
To many people, Iran is only an anti-US and Israel in words, while acting as a butcher of fellow Muslims.

In the 80s they supported Saddam who used WMD's against Iran. Also the first day of the war, US tested new weapons on Iranian civlians in Lamerd and killed schoolchildren in Minab.. all done through their bases in these countries. Don't tell me US would fight as easy as now if they had no any military base in these countries.