Indians Bragging about Scamming Food Banks in Canada

[K2RULEZ]

I am asking him about that US veteran housing post.

I am asking you whether you collect food at a food bank since you support your scamming Indian brethren in Canada who also happen to collect food at food banks.

Don't dodge the question.

 

[Master Chief]

Unlike you, Canadian universities and local governments do not differentiate based on immigration status on things ear-marked for student use.

A student welfare service/subsidy usually available in Canada for all students.

BTW, not just Indian, students of ALL ethnicity use those services, including german. German students in Canada get subsidized bus passes in city buses, they also get food from student food bank.

There are community food banks for poors and they do not allow students to avail their charity.

You consistently argue by explaining what IS happening, while your concern was regarding the OUTRAGE (i.e. people's perception of what SHOULD happen). I have explained quite logically why the outrage exists. Also, there is no question regarding the reality of what happens - there is ample evidence of the poverty that Indian students find themselves in here in UK, for reasons beyond my comprehension given the fact that they should have arrived here comfortably above a strictly assessed budgetary threshold.

Food banks are charitable projects.

The question lingers - why should those who have arrived in a country on a means tested visa for a fixed period of time be allowed to access a service for someone in such a state of poverty that free food is needed?

Did that person fraudulently declare their financial means prior to application?

Also, you keep attempting conflation of several issues by discussing bus passes etc. Nobody is actually bringing up bus passes but you. Domestic students' families have spent their lives and livelihoods contributing to a state welfare pot, one way or another. International students' families have not.

I would argue that International students should also pay full value for their bus passes, now that you mention it.

 

[PK781]

The answer is simple. They arrived in Canada as STUDENTS. So as students they are expected to have a certain life style and hence certain expense profile, for which they are means tested. Students live in residence halls or economical and often shared residences and avail economical means of meals and travel -- including subsidized bus passes and university run food banks.

The visa means test takes that into consideration when they set the expense level. It is by design.

The folks who are outraging are wrong because the money to support these are not really coming from their own pocket, even in form of taxes. Food banks in universities are run by university funds and donations from businesses as a part of their own charity programs -- often in form of food items that are near expiry. This is not public money!

The ones outraging are ill-informed or plain racist.

stop the whattaboutism, seriously.

The videos posted online are of the Food Banks which are for the poor, and those which are NOT university-run, and you see your filthy ones standing in lines and even mocking people and then making it online into video and encouraging others to do the same scam.

That's pathetic on the indians and it further degrades your so-called izzat amongst the locals, but i guess you guys just stopped caring?

Then you wonder why the entire world hates you lot, but its your own doing.

ALL international students are expected to be able to afford themselves a place to live, their food and other necessities from their own funds, not from food banks or taking away locals jobs.

 

[Master Chief]

I dont think you have see what is being discussed. The very first post of this thread is this tweet.

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The video is about Food Bank CCSAI.

CCSAI is Centennial College Student Association. It even says on website that any current student is eligible.
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The outrage is fake.
Do know what you are talking about.

You have at different points said the "outrage" is "ill informed", "plain racist", or "fake" in separate conversations you have had on this thread to keep forum goers occupied in some bizarre attempt at misdirection. I am going to demonstrate to you now why the outrage is actually NONE of the above.

The outrage is evidence based, targeted at a certain group because of said evidence, and very real.

We live in the west, like you. We are all fully cognisant of what the usual criteria are for utility of student food banks. We are also aware of the immigration requirements for a regular student visa. Did you think these nations are in the business of welcoming beggars to their countries?



University of Galway, Ireland, earlier this year where students were turned away from the food bank because of exhausted inventory. What do you notice about the queue of students, supposedly arriving in Ireland with a verified income assessment prior to student visa issue?

Why are other international students not prevalent in these food bank queues, who will obviously encounter the same living cost pressures here in the west but also will have demonstrated the EXACT SAME income threshold as Indian students to support their original application?

Why do you think those looking at these pictures are wondering if the students from China, Korea and the Middle East probably told the truth on their visa applications while the Indians either (a) lied regarding their income on their visa application, (b) are presently lying that they cannot afford groceries while cynically standing in these queues for free food and tampons, or (c) BOTH of the above?

Do you not think this behaviour is enough to cause genuine outrage?

Lots more pictures doing the rounds. Holler if you want some more.

 

[Master Chief]

Use of Food Bank is not begging. Students get subsidy in a number of ways. Food bank providing a hamper a week lasting 2 days is lowering the cost of attending school. You do not know what you are talking about.


This is false. Other international students ALSO use food banks.
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Nigerians

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So do filipino students. The caption here is "my friends are going to the food bank".

Infact they make videos about it too (as evident).


I do not live in Ireland and I do not know what and how their food banks work. I can only comment specifically about Canadian food banks because I know situation here in Canada. That being said, the person in the front looks very much a european.


This is horse manure. You can see Pinoy and Nigerians using food bank too. Here are some more east asians.

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My wife volunteers in UVic food bank and she has seen practically EVERY ethnicity on the campus, including those who drive Tesla use food banks.


If you have read the comments on twitter, the entire point is NOT EVEN about food bank, it is about hating on Indians because they are "taking all THEIR jobs". Its plain racism, does not matter what Indians do or do not do. They are competition in eyes of twitter right wingers and so you get all the hate.
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Am sure all nationalities use food banks. Where did I say they don't? All students will endure hardships sometimes. This is expected.

But the photos of massive queues of nearly exclusively Indian students speak for themselves. You still refuse to address my assertion that these students have behaved fraudulently at some point along their journey from gao in Hindustan to the food bank queue in western countries - either they lied on their visa application (using forged income statements presumably, or perhaps bribing an official) OR they truly have enough money and lied at the food bank distribution desk just so they can save that money because free food happens to be available (taking advantage of a trust based society).

Are all the international students at Galway Indian? Obviously not. And yet, the food bank queue is all Indian (apart from the one guy at the front that you hastened to point out!).



Also in Birmingham..



You can see some honest Indian commentators have also clearly stated the issue is likely of one of mentality, not of genuine need.

As for your claim of racism, it's this deployment of the race card to defend straightforward leeching of resources off others who genuinely need them which creates genuine hatred from whites towards all Indians, not some innate racist intuition.

 

[PK781]

Sooner or later these people will simply cause the food banks to just close permanently, specially when donor fatigue is reached.
Imagine if u normally donate to such causes and then see this shitshow, guess what, no more donations!

Whether its nigerians or indians or east European or others, this scamming will eventually lead to it being stopped.

International students who cannot support themselves in foreign country should just leave if they cannot afford the study+expenses. Just return to your country.

 

[RescueRanger]

*Mods - this is a growing trend in Canada where Indian economic migrants are bragging about scamming food banks for Canadian citizens and elderly. Please don't close this thread down as we need to shed a light on these scumbags stealing from hardworking Canadians.

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second video made me very angry. That food is meant for the poorest and most vulnerable in society, such as impoverished families and individuals.

It was my understanding that immigrants cannot rely on "public funds" when visiting or living in western countries, they should not be allowed to exploit food banks like this.

Disgusting chimp like behaviour.

 

[RescueRanger]

To the contrary, Hindus themselves are admitting that more Indians in Western countries is a problem. This video explains that more Indians in The Netherlands will be problematic and change the Dutch demographics.

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Poor Dutch people. The most welcoming and kindest people I've met in my life are Dutch. It's a shame how this sort of problematic behaviour ruins genuine goodwill.

 

[Yasser76]

You have at different points said the "outrage" is "ill informed", "plain racist", or "fake" in separate conversations you have had on this thread to keep forum goers occupied in some bizarre attempt at misdirection. I am going to demonstrate to you now why the outrage is actually NONE of the above.

The outrage is evidence based, targeted at a certain group because of said evidence, and very real.

We live in the west, like you. We are all fully cognisant of what the usual criteria are for utility of student food banks. We are also aware of the immigration requirements for a regular student visa. Did you think these nations are in the business of welcoming beggars to their countries?

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University of Galway, Ireland, earlier this year where students were turned away from the food bank because of exhausted inventory. What do you notice about the queue of students, supposedly arriving in Ireland with a verified income assessment prior to student visa issue?

Why are other international students not prevalent in these food bank queues, who will obviously encounter the same living cost pressures here in the west but also will have demonstrated the EXACT SAME income threshold as Indian students to support their original application?

Why do you think those looking at these pictures are wondering if the students from China, Korea and the Middle East probably told the truth on their visa applications while the Indians either (a) lied regarding their income on their visa application, (b) are presently lying that they cannot afford groceries while cynically standing in these queues for free food and tampons, or (c) BOTH of the above?

Do you not think this behaviour is enough to cause genuine outrage?

Lots more pictures doing the rounds. Holler if you want some more.

OK, OK, take it easy, you have beaten him to a pulp now!

 

[Yasser76]

Sooner or later these people will simply cause the food banks to just close permanently, specially when donor fatigue is reached.
Imagine if u normally donate to such causes and then see this shitshow, guess what, no more donations!

Whether its nigerians or indians or east European or others, this scamming will eventually lead to it being stopped.

International students who cannot support themselves in foreign country should just leave if they cannot afford the study+expenses. Just return to your country.

Yeah, in economics it is called the freerider problem, other people will miss out and Indians will feed off the generosity of the hosts till at some point these food banks will have to stop, that is the tragedy.

Similar mentality at airports I have been in, you notice they have sections and mobility cars for the old and disabled, everywhere Ii have been at a big airport (Toronto, London, Dubai etc) guess what was by far the biggest group using them? Some were even fricking middle aged and when it got to deboarding the other side i saw the same people have no problem walking at pace. I saw old white women with walking sticks not using the system and middle aged Indian men doing so....

 

[RescueRanger]

Yeah, in economics it is called the freerider problem, other people will miss out and Indians will feed off the generosity of the hosts till at some point these food banks will have to stop, that is the tragedy.

Similar mentality at airports I have been in, you notice they have sections and mobility cars for the old and disabled, everywhere Ii have been at a big airport (Toronto, London, Dubai etc) guess what was by far the biggest group using them? Some were even fricking middle ages and when it got to deboarding the other side i saw the same people have now problem walking at pace. I saw old white women with walking sticks not using the system and middle aged Indian men doing so....

And this is the problem isn't it. The sense of entitlement and clearly abusing or gaming a system meant to offer support, access and dignity to a selective group of people who are the most vulnerable in society.

I can't stand people like this. Funny story, my mammo Jan had a major operation a few years back in Istanbul and flew back to Pakistan a few weeks after recovery, the airline offered him expedite boarding and wheelchair and he laughed and said "I'm old but not that old", politely refusing the assistance.

Point is, decency and common sense is very important. Sadly some people are naturally born besharam hadharam type people.

 

[Yasser76]

And this is the problem isn't it. The sense of entitlement and clearly abusing or gaming a system meant to offer support, access and dignity to a selective group of people who are the most vulnerable in society.

I can't stand people like this. Funny story, my mammo Jan had a major operation a few years back in Istanbul and flew back to Pakistan a few weeks after recovery, the airline offered him expedite boarding and wheelchair and he laughed and said "I'm old but not that old", politely refusing the assistance.

Point is, decency and common sense is very important. Sadly some people are naturally born besharam hadharam type people.

Yeah, again as mentioned, I really think it has a lot to do with Pakistani culture and Islam in how we behave.

Izzat or "pride" is a valuable commodity in Pakistani society, from saying you can walk without assistance to fighting till the last man in a platoon. Indians regard this as a weakness and their culture the one that manages to trick or "beat" another person for a better deal or easy life is the "Winner" In all honesty that is probably why Indians make better businessmen than Pakistanis, but Pakistanis make better soldiers. This reflects in public behaviour.
Finally Islam means we dont drink and guides our behaviour towards women and elders. Hinduism does not seem to have strong guiding principles here.

This is also why Pakistanis tend to migrate more towards Saudi, Bahrain or Qatar and Indians tend to prefer UAE of given the choice

 

[PakistanLVR]

second video made me very angry. That food is meant for the poorest and most vulnerable in society, such as impoverished families and individuals.

It was my understanding that immigrants cannot rely on "public funds" when visiting or living in western countries, they should not be allowed to exploit food banks like this.

Disgusting chimp like behaviour.

Indian students waiting at a food bank in Ireland aren't 'freeloading', it's 'jugaad'

It is assumed that any one able to fund an international education must be superbly wealthy.

theprint.in

 

[PakistanLVR]

OK, OK, take it easy, you have beaten him to a pulp now!

Not enough beating if you ask me. Indians are truly pigmies in their behavior.

 

[RescueRanger]

Indian students waiting at a food bank in Ireland aren't 'freeloading', it's 'jugaad'

It is assumed that any one able to fund an international education must be superbly wealthy.

theprint.in

Shameful behaviour to be honest.