PTI news, updates and discussions part ll

[Pakistanithinktank]

Pakistan’s Establishment has spent years trying to create a replacement for Imran Khan and every attempt has failed. They tried TV anchors, influencers, bureaucrats, even Iqrar‑ul‑Hasan, but none of them could generate real public loyalty. The truth is simple, you can’t manufacture Imran Khan’s kind of charisma in a political lab.

After being outplayed on the 18th Amendment, the Establishment lost the ability to fully centralize political power. Ever since, they’ve been scrambling for control not through leadership, but through laws. They introduced new regulations aimed directly at Gen‑Z, trying to silence the only generation that refuses to bow down. These laws target speech, online expression, and social media activism, all because young Pakistanis won’t accept engineered narratives.

With no real alternative leader available, the Establishment’s “final card” is to build two new political parties designed to mimic PTI’s style, youth branding, anti-corruption slogans, patriotic packaging. But Pakistani politics runs on personality, not packaging. And no media personality, civil servant, retired general, or business tycoon can replicate the emotional connection Imran Khan built over decades.

In the end, the Establishment’s problem is straightforward. They tried to replace a phenomenon with puppets.
They tried to replace a movement with marketing.
And when that failed, they tried to silence the generation that refused to obey.

Soon a retired general will come forward to create a political party. Let’s see if that experiment will work.

 

[Watandar]

Pakistan’s Establishment has spent years trying to create a replacement for Imran Khan and every attempt has failed. They tried TV anchors, influencers, bureaucrats, even Iqrar‑ul‑Hasan, but none of them could generate real public loyalty. The truth is simple, you can’t manufacture Imran Khan’s kind of charisma in a political lab.

After being outplayed on the 18th Amendment, the Establishment lost the ability to fully centralize political power. Ever since, they’ve been scrambling for control not through leadership, but through laws. They introduced new regulations aimed directly at Gen‑Z, trying to silence the only generation that refuses to bow down. These laws target speech, online expression, and social media activism, all because young Pakistanis won’t accept engineered narratives.

With no real alternative leader available, the Establishment’s “final card” is to build two new political parties designed to mimic PTI’s style, youth branding, anti-corruption slogans, patriotic packaging. But Pakistani politics runs on personality, not packaging. And no media personality, civil servant, retired general, or business tycoon can replicate the emotional connection Imran Khan built over decades.

In the end, the Establishment’s problem is straightforward. They tried to replace a phenomenon with puppets.
They tried to replace a movement with marketing.
And when that failed, they tried to silence the generation that refused to obey.

Soon a retired general will come forward to create a political party. Let’s see if that experiment will work.

Amazing analysis, could not have put it better myself. Who do you think is this retired general ? Is it Tariq Khan ?

 

[flyingorca]

Didn't GHQ make IK? Why did the Army back the Jewish bid?

GHQ was under heavy American influence from 2000s to 2020s. Remember they used to pick pro american generals. They did that because American global influence was at the peak during WOT era.

 

[flyingorca]

I don't know where else to put this

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Khwaja asif as our foreign Minister is currently engaged in a back and forth against the Zionists

He makes a very valid point about what Israel is doing

Read the comments from the You-thia in response

These scum bags cannot help themselves and are like Pahlavists, why the hell are you bringing up your Messiah in the middle of this exchange with Zionists

You utter fcuking moron's

The only thing Imran Khan said against Israel was "plej dont fight saaar" and "plej saar make peace saar" and these cultists take this as biggest diplomatic victory against Israel
Meanwhile his boys in London have yet to speak against Israeli aggression around middle east.

 

[Goenitz]

GHQ was under heavy American influence from 2000s to 2020s. Remember they used to pick pro american generals. They did that because American global influence was at the peak during WOT era.

what did Pak do to get out of that influence in those dired condition post COVID and after the Ukraine war? bcz our GDP was 6%?

 

[Goenitz]

Pakistan’s Establishment has spent years trying to create a replacement for Imran Khan and every attempt has failed. They tried TV anchors, influencers, bureaucrats, even Iqrar‑ul‑Hasan, but none of them could generate real public loyalty. The truth is simple, you can’t manufacture Imran Khan’s kind of charisma in a political lab.

After being outplayed on the 18th Amendment, the Establishment lost the ability to fully centralize political power. Ever since, they’ve been scrambling for control not through leadership, but through laws. They introduced new regulations aimed directly at Gen‑Z, trying to silence the only generation that refuses to bow down. These laws target speech, online expression, and social media activism, all because young Pakistanis won’t accept engineered narratives.

With no real alternative leader available, the Establishment’s “final card” is to build two new political parties designed to mimic PTI’s style, youth branding, anti-corruption slogans, patriotic packaging. But Pakistani politics runs on personality, not packaging. And no media personality, civil servant, retired general, or business tycoon can replicate the emotional connection Imran Khan built over decades.

In the end, the Establishment’s problem is straightforward. They tried to replace a phenomenon with puppets.
They tried to replace a movement with marketing.
And when that failed, they tried to silence the generation that refused to obey.

Soon a retired general will come forward to create a political party. Let’s see if that experiment will work.

and they say they made IK. They can't defame him which is way easier than making somebody popular.

 

[flyingorca]

what did Pak do to get out of that influence in those dired condition post COVID and after the Ukraine war? bcz our GDP was 6%?

Then what was the need to go and beg for a loan from Saudia if Pakistan economy was sky rocketing?

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[Goenitz]

Then what was the need to go and beg for a loan from Saudia if Pakistan economy was sky rocketing?

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lols.
S. Korean govt once took a loan to support Hyundai, which became a giant later. Taking a loan for industry and secondary economic activity is very different than to build dumb infra projects, buying luxury planes and repaying instalments.

 

[flyingorca]

and they say they made IK. They can't defame him which is way easier than making somebody popular.

Are you denying the fact Imran Khan used to beg Musharaf to give him a chance in politics?
It depends.... if you use riyasat e Medina card, play the victim card, and try to make some rhetoric remarks about America in front of your awam then yes you will get alot of support. But the funny thing is now the same PTI is begging America, India, EU for support against the same Army who launched his political career in Pakistan.

 

[flyingorca]

lols.
S. Korean govt once took a loan to support Hyundai, which became a giant later. Taking a loan for industry and secondary economic activity is very different than to build dumb infra projects, buying luxury planes and repaying instalments.

Oh so Imran Khan followers think their leader was inches away from turning Pakistan into another South Korea until evil journals pulled his legs.

 

[flyingorca]

Pakistan’s Establishment has spent years trying to create a replacement for Imran Khan and every attempt has failed. They tried TV anchors, influencers, bureaucrats, even Iqrar‑ul‑Hasan, but none of them could generate real public loyalty. The truth is simple, you can’t manufacture Imran Khan’s kind of charisma in a political lab.

After being outplayed on the 18th Amendment, the Establishment lost the ability to fully centralize political power. Ever since, they’ve been scrambling for control not through leadership, but through laws. They introduced new regulations aimed directly at Gen‑Z, trying to silence the only generation that refuses to bow down. These laws target speech, online expression, and social media activism, all because young Pakistanis won’t accept engineered narratives.

With no real alternative leader available, the Establishment’s “final card” is to build two new political parties designed to mimic PTI’s style, youth branding, anti-corruption slogans, patriotic packaging. But Pakistani politics runs on personality, not packaging. And no media personality, civil servant, retired general, or business tycoon can replicate the emotional connection Imran Khan built over decades.

In the end, the Establishment’s problem is straightforward. They tried to replace a phenomenon with puppets.
They tried to replace a movement with marketing.
And when that failed, they tried to silence the generation that refused to obey.

Soon a retired general will come forward to create a political party. Let’s see if that experiment will work.

Nice churan, but the day PTI officially announce that the Riyasat e Medina churan was just a hoax and watch PTI popularity take a nose dive to its grave. Right now people are still going through IK hangover, just give it another 1 or 2 years max. It took me 1 year to realize what a drama he was.
Btw, establishment has not been finding IK replacement for yearssss. They just got rid of him not even 4 years ago. Remember it took them nearly 10 years to find replacement for Bhutto with Sharif and then another 2 decades to find replacement for Nawaz with IK. Give it another 5 years and people will remember IK as zio failed project.

 

[hussain0216]

The only thing Imran Khan said against Israel was "plej dont fight saaar" and "plej saar make peace saar" and these cultists take this as biggest diplomatic victory against Israel
Meanwhile his boys in London have yet to speak against Israeli aggression around middle east.

Honestly, these clowns are mindless

They drank the cool aid,
PTI has no plan, no manifesto, no economic plan or even a group of people that could deal with the issues

The bottom line is the current hybrid system has finally got the ability to make some changes and we need to push these changes through

We need to deal with the ethnocentric jahilat in our country and not just bow down to every local sardar or chaudary and let them set up some local system outside of state control



But the most annoying thing, is how these PTO clowns are just polluting the Internet with their retarded nonsense
And just like the Pahlavists, aiming to cause Pakistan maximum damage in the hope they can get their Messiah back

 

[Cipher212]

GHQ was under heavy American influence from 2000s to 2020s. Remember they used to pick pro american generals. They did that because American global influence was at the peak during WOT era.

This is false. Pakistan Army still has a huge pro US lobby within it. Just look at how happy Munir is when he's invited to White House.

Are you denying the fact Imran Khan used to beg Musharaf to give him a chance in politics?
It depends.... if you use riyasat e Medina card, play the victim card, and try to make some rhetoric remarks about America in front of your awam then yes you will get alot of support. But the funny thing is now the same PTI is begging America, India, EU for support against the same Army who launched his political career in Pakistan.

This is false. Musharaf offered IK big seats at one point and he denied. Musharaf himself has said this and expressed disappointment.

 

[Goenitz]

This is false. Pakistan Army still has a huge pro US lobby within it. Just look at how happy Munir is when he's invited to White House.


This is false. Musharaf offered IK big seats at one point and he denied. Musharaf himself has said this and expressed disappointment.

I think replying to him is a waste, as he lacks analytical skills.
He cannot compare that lending for secondary economic activities can be advantageous. His reply was so "so IK wants to make Pak S.Korea" or something,
Not to mention sweeping claims that the US has influenced GHQ till 2020 only.

 

[Watandar]

I think replying to him is a waste, as he lacks analytical skills.
He cannot compare that lending for secondary economic activities can be advantageous. His reply was so "so IK wants to make Pak S.Korea" or something,
Not to mention sweeping claims that the US has influenced GHQ till 2020 only.

Flyingdumbo is among a group of trolls whose mission is to derail every discussion. Engaging with them is to empower them and ignoring them is then worst thing you can do to them.