Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

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[flyingorca]

The fact that Israel and Nethanyahu do not have political leverage on Xi and Putin hence failing to bring them in line with themselves, solely proves that Epstein has failed to make them child molesters. Unlike the US leadership that have been learning child molesting process from their Zionist allies. Trump for example, his name is mentioned in the leaked documents for hundreds of times.

Well what evidence do you or the other guy have that Sharif, Munir, Erdogan, and MBS are in the Epstein list?

 

[IceCold]

I didn't say it was?

This is what the original debate was and not whether who was or is more stubborn. Pakistan was a facilitator. We cannot guarantee an outcome. At the same time we cannot be told with whom we can get into a defensive treaty or not.

 

[Immortals]

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[BHAN85]

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cyberattacks without real attacks it smells to false flags

very easy to change the origin of a cyberattack.

 

[Professor Jiang]

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[Watandar]

Americans are NOT stupid. They clearly don't take Chinese threat seriously, infact countries near China with virtually no economy don't take them seriously.

China first needs to retake that tiny little island before dreaming about going head to head with America. By the time that happens (if ever), US will have long recovered from its adventures in Middle East.

For the time being status quo continues, American defense contractors have never had it so good - billions upon billions of revenue rolling in daily. Their mainland is untouched. Its the poor folks that are suffering sadly.

I think China got what it wanted by supporting Russia and Iran economically and the exhausted US munitions stockpile makes China safe for the next 5-10 years. Notice the snarling at China by Americans has gone away.

 

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[clutch]

cyberattacks without real attacks it smells to false flags

very easy to change the origin of a cyberattack.

The UAE and the Joos are going to have an interesting relationship where things will keep on blowing up for UAE thanks to the "Hamas" aka Mossad

 

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[observer2]

The UAE and the Joos are going to have an interesting relationship where things will keep on blowing up for UAE thanks to the "Hamas" aka Mossad

UAE are experiencing the consequences of trusting yahuds

 

[muhammed45]

Well what evidence do you or the other guy have that Sharif, Munir, Erdogan, and MBS are in the Epstein list?

'Trump and US leaders'

Please tell us where in that phrase you can see Munir, Erdogan or Sharif? Are you joking or something?

 

[flyingorca]

'Trump and US leaders'

Please tell us where in that phrase you can see Munir, Erdogan or Sharif? Are you joking or something?

Did you check and see which post I was responding to when you jumped in the conversation?

 

[MS Sandhu]

I don't think so. If an alliance of such nature would attack Irán, just a call from China and Pakistán will stop the coalition.
And Irán by definition never attacks first.
So US is desperated.

Just recently in may 2025, India went bonkers against Pakistan when its Fighter jets were shot right in its own skies.
With every passing day, Indo-Pak theater is getting more and more serious.Pakistan with its weak economy can't sustain long war against India so obviously after May incident, Pakistan is seriously looking for alliances to get support in case India gets in war again.

In case, Iran or its proxies launch war against KSA or vice versa - Pakistan can extend its production facilities to support KSA war machinery and would expect similar things from Saudi Arabia also in case India gets cocky.

Turkey in equation further makes the things easier because of its extensive weapons industry.


It wouldn't be wise for Pakistan to wholly rely on Chinese for support against India.New Alliances make the things stable for Pakistan in long run.