PTI news, updates and discussions part ll

[flyingorca]

1 Musharaf is a traitor and conspired against a sitting PM. He died far away from his beloved country because he was too puss to face court. I don't care much for him. And yes, it is still a shame that the other services did not know what was going on and neither the government or even parts of the army itself had any idea what was going on. That's usually defined as rogue action in most militaries.

2 Also funny you are calling Nawaz an Imran ally when currently it's his party that the army is using as their surrogate. Asim Munir is happily working with him and his brother and daughter to latch onto power.

3 Secondly, you are again harping on and on about fighting men running Islamic empires and blah blah.

4 Beta, this is not 960 AD and Asim Munir is not a "fighting man". He is a bald pot bellied dude LARPing as a British officer because he's been programmed that way by a colonial remnant military academy.

5 Pakistan is an Islamic Republic. Not a medieval monarchy. We are not run by fighting men, our country was created by a bloody civilian who was a lawyer.

6 Even the Islamic countries today's which are indeed monarchies are not run by generals. They're run by a royal family and the generals report to the Prince/King/Sheikh/Sultan etc.

7 It is only in Pakistan and Egypt where some officer clowns have got it into their head that they have the right to run the country.

Also agar Imran Khan na hamla nahi kia India pe tou why isn't the brave Asim Munir doing it? 50% of Kashmir is still in Indian hands. Jaye jihad karay wo. Suit pehn ke politics Kyu karra hay?

1. At this point you are just changing the goal post instead of addressing my counter arguments. Common safe exit tactics by those who get caught in their own web of lies. I already made it clear why Kargil was a secretive mission where the less noise made the quicker Pakistan could reach their positions. If India could bribe the Maharaja of Kashmir then it was a justified sneaky move by Pakistan.

2. Do you have comprehension issue? I called him "EX Ally" just like how Imran Khan was also Musharraf’s EX ally. I remember how during early 2000s Imran used to call Musharaf one of his daddy infact the list is quite long starting from Goldsmith ending with Trump.

3. Muslim empire blah blah bla? Pretty sure thats how Imran khan became popular by giving daily dose of Riyasat e Medina churan. I dare PTI official page on X to make an announcement that Riyasat e Medina was just a churan to gain sympathy votes and watch how their popularity among emotionally charged religious awam takes a nose dive.

4. Your Imrano Khan literally graduated from British Uni, married into pro zio family, socialized in Epstein and Maxwell type figures circles, etc etc.
And isn't England where most of PTI tiger warriors hiding?

5. Muslim empires such as Mughal and Ottoman were not medieval or barbaric empire you self loatheing mor0n. They were one of the most richest and sophisticated empire of its time.

6. Thats why they are among the weakest

7. If asim does attack India then people like you will still find a way to criticize this move. Heck Pak must keep keep on trying until they find victory. Remember, muslims lost 10s of battles against Crusaders until they were victorious.

 

[Cipher212]

1. At this point you are just changing the goal post instead of addressing my counter arguments. Common safe exit tactics by those who get caught in their own web of lies. I already made it clear why Kargil was a secretive mission where the less noise made the quicker Pakistan could reach their positions. If India could bribe the Maharaja of Kashmir then it was a justified sneaky move by Pakistan.

2. Do you have comprehension issue? I called him "EX Ally" just like how Imran Khan was also Musharraf’s EX ally. I remember how during early 2000s Imran used to call Musharaf one of his daddy infact the list is quite long starting from Goldsmith ending with Trump.

3. Muslim empire blah blah bla? Pretty sure thats how Imran khan became popular by giving daily dose of Riyasat e Medina churan. I dare PTI official page on X to make an announcement that Riyasat e Medina was just a churan to gain sympathy votes and watch how their popularity among emotionally charged religious awam takes a nose dive.

4. Your Imrano Khan literally graduated from British Uni, married into pro zio family, socialized in Epstein and Maxwell type figures circles, etc etc.
And isn't England where most of PTI tiger warriors hiding?

5. Muslim empires such as Mughal and Ottoman were not medieval or barbaric empire you self loatheing mor0n. They were one of the most richest and sophisticated empire of its time.

6. Thats why they are among the weakest

7. If asim does attack India then people like you will still find a way to criticize this move. Heck Pak must keep keep on trying until they find victory. Remember, muslims lost 10s of battles against Crusaders until they were victorious.

Was no secret mission. Just mutiny. Musharaf acted without permission.

And Nawaz was never Imran's ally. The only time they worked together was when Sharif donated to Shaukat Khanum and briefly offered IK position in PMLN which IK declined.

You are still going on and on about Muslim empires oh my god dude get a bloody grip. The year is 2026. There is no Islamic empire anymore. We are in the era of nation states and we live in a REPUBLIC. Not Kingdom of Munir! And I called it Medieval by the way, which pertains to an era. Not sure where you are bringing in barbarism from.

Singular king ruling does not work anymore. Modern countries are MASSIVE compared to these old empires. Millions and millions of people. Pakistan is 240 million now. King system does not suit us anyways.

Yes you are right. Imran Khan used to give examples of Madina government. So what? Did he alter constitution of Pakistan to make himself Khalifa? He was just giving examples in his speeches. He still governed as PM with ministers as per the law. In contrast, when Army grabs power via martial law to hand over power to one man who was not even elected, that is often far from constitutional.

And as for Imran Khan being some zio agent. Bhai tum log thakte nahi ho jhoot phelanay se?

 

[flyingorca]

1. Was no secret mission. Just mutiny. Musharaf acted without permission.

2. And Nawaz was never Imran's ally. The only time they worked together was when Sharif donated to Shaukat Khanum and briefly offered IK position in PMLN which IK declined.

3. You are still going on and on about Muslim empires oh my god dude get a bloody grip. The year is 2026. There is no Islamic empire anymore. We are in the era of nation states and we live in a REPUBLIC. Not Kingdom of Munir! And I called it Medieval by the way, which pertains to an era. Not sure where you are bringing in barbarism from.

4. Singular king ruling does not work anymore. Modern countries are MASSIVE compared to these old empires. Millions and millions of people. Pakistan is 240 million now. King system does not suit us anyways.

5. Yes you are right. Imran Khan used to give examples of Madina government. So what? Did he alter constitution of Pakistan to make himself Khalifa? He was just giving examples in his speeches. He still governed as PM with ministers as per the law. In contrast, when Army grabs power via martial law to hand over power to one man who was not even elected, that is often far from constitutional.

6. And as for Imran Khan being some zio agent. Bhai tum log thakte nahi ho jhoot phelanay se?

1. Sometimes its okay to lets go with your argument that is not going anywhere for you. Just like you accepted you were wrong with "we lost 1965 war" and moved on and hopefully you learned the lesson and wont repeat the same nonsense that we lost all wars.
Regarding your last argument about Kargil. It would be considered a munity if Musharaf had informed Nawaz before he executed his plan. That was not the case here. Not sure why Nawaz disagreed with Kargil when he was "Selected" by the establishment and didnt care much about Pakistan but only his bank accounts right? If Musharaf survived im sure he would have too.
Musharaf screwed up with not realizing the consequences of his action on Kargil. But other then that, Pakistan should have kept trying other military actions until they succeed. One surprise attack was not enough to liberate IOK. But when we have civilians and politicians with inept mindset regarding military solution on Kashmir then the cause is going to remain hopeless. Just chest thumping speeches does not liberate nations. And remember LOC is not international border.

2. What about the time when Imrano joined hands with PMLN PPP and other parties around 2006 to demand removal of Musharaf? Its funny how few years back the same Imrano was happy with Musharaf's decision to join WOT but later flip flopped.

3. Nah man, I will keep reminding PTI supporters here how this dajjali "leader" deceived awam to get sympathy votes with his Riyasat e Medina churan. Like I said, if PTI officially declare that Riyasat e Medina was a hoax then its game over for PTI. Dont just brush this off as if it was just slip of tongue, he knew exactly what he was doing and how to capture votes by deceitful way.
Thats the reason why I justify military involvement in Politics because if the party has projected Muslim system then my point is the real system.

4. So remove military and religion from ruling system ok got it. Now tell average PTI supporters that PTI supports separation of religion from state and watch how ape sh1t they get when they hear this.

5. I know I know he would never turn Pakistan into Riyasat e Medina but my point is that his average supporters from KPK or imrando/patwari hybrid from punjab are convinced that Imran Khan was inches away from making Pakistan super halal country. If you tell them the truth they will lose their minds and no more 2/3 majority dream for PTI. You cant feed lies to the people to gain sympathy and Pakistanis sentiments about their religion is really high.

6. Not sure why Imran khan never showed any resentment about his ties with Goldsmith network. Didnt he also support Zac Goldsmith who is a pro zio?

Investigative reporting ‘almost impossible’ in modern work culture, journalist Edward Jay Epstein says

The 87-year-old author of a new memoir talked with JNS about his Jewish ancestry, long walks with Benjamin Netanyahu and another Epstein who made headlines.

www.jns.org

When Epstein went to Israel in 1991 with the Jewish billionaire Sir James “Jimmy” Goldsmith, the two lunched with Netanyahu at an Arab restaurant.

 

[Maniiminhas]

Is it automatic that if one eye has CRVO, other eye will also get it?

 

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How exactly did Pakistan lose 1965 war by thwarting Indian invasion of Lahore and Sialkot?

because papus like you dont read history...

only ISPR hand outs

that is your level

 

[Cipher212]

1. Sometimes its okay to lets go with your argument that is not going anywhere for you. Just like you accepted you were wrong with "we lost 1965 war" and moved on and hopefully you learned the lesson and wont repeat the same nonsense that we lost all wars.
Regarding your last argument about Kargil. It would be considered a munity if Musharaf had informed Nawaz before he executed his plan. That was not the case here. Not sure why Nawaz disagreed with Kargil when he was "Selected" by the establishment and didnt care much about Pakistan but only his bank accounts right? If Musharaf survived im sure he would have too.
Musharaf screwed up with not realizing the consequences of his action on Kargil. But other then that, Pakistan should have kept trying other military actions until they succeed. One surprise attack was not enough to liberate IOK. But when we have civilians and politicians with inept mindset regarding military solution on Kashmir then the cause is going to remain hopeless. Just chest thumping speeches does not liberate nations. And remember LOC is not international border.

2. What about the time when Imrano joined hands with PMLN PPP and other parties around 2006 to demand removal of Musharaf? Its funny how few years back the same Imrano was happy with Musharaf's decision to join WOT but later flip flopped.

3. Nah man, I will keep reminding PTI supporters here how this dajjali "leader" deceived awam to get sympathy votes with his Riyasat e Medina churan. Like I said, if PTI officially declare that Riyasat e Medina was a hoax then its game over for PTI. Dont just brush this off as if it was just slip of tongue, he knew exactly what he was doing and how to capture votes by deceitful way.
Thats the reason why I justify military involvement in Politics because if the party has projected Muslim system then my point is the real system.

4. So remove military and religion from ruling system ok got it. Now tell average PTI supporters that PTI supports separation of religion from state and watch how ape sh1t they get when they hear this.

5. I know I know he would never turn Pakistan into Riyasat e Medina but my point is that his average supporters from KPK or imrando/patwari hybrid from punjab are convinced that Imran Khan was inches away from making Pakistan super halal country. If you tell them the truth they will lose their minds and no more 2/3 majority dream for PTI. You cant feed lies to the people to gain sympathy and Pakistanis sentiments about their religion is really high.

6. Not sure why Imran khan never showed any resentment about his ties with Goldsmith network. Didnt he also support Zac Goldsmith who is a pro zio?

Investigative reporting ‘almost impossible’ in modern work culture, journalist Edward Jay Epstein says

The 87-year-old author of a new memoir talked with JNS about his Jewish ancestry, long walks with Benjamin Netanyahu and another Epstein who made headlines.

www.jns.org

When Epstein went to Israel in 1991 with the Jewish billionaire Sir James “Jimmy” Goldsmith, the two lunched with Netanyahu at an Arab restaurant.

You say u don't care about Musharaf then come running to defend a con man that sold us out to the americans without as much as a little pushback. Just let it go brother. I don't care about that traitor as much as you do and he's already died sitting abroad. His family is well settled abroad. They're done with Pakistan. They had their piece of pie after he retired and they ate it.

I hate Nawaz too. I find him to be a corrupt idiot who can never fill his stomach but rights are rights. He was an elected PM and dekho kya tamasha kharra kia in front of the world. Nearly hanged him! For what?



Also, I am still right that Pakistan never won a war. '65 was a stalemate, where Pakistan didn't achieve any of the objectives it set, and actually suffered afterwards due to the sanctions which left us in a very weak situation for 1971. For some reason our military has twisted the history domestically to show that war started on 6 September with Indians opening front on Lahore and Sialkot but this was actually response.....but anyways if you are not even familiar with these events, free to ask much more knowledgeable members here on the exact events. Since I am probably a RAW agent.

That is also why '48 could be considered a partial victory but the hilarious thing is, all the gains were made by irregulars like Lt. Brown and tribesmen. By the time PA and IA deployed, almost no territory was exchanged. In fact PA delayed deployment despite Jinnah's orders.




I can give you a simple example of why military should not be involved in politics. My family had some land issues in Lahore. Long story short, the land was technically ours in some old papers but taken over by a certain society.

Who did we have to get a meeting with to resolve this? The bloody corps commander of Lahore himself. After waiting months of course. I did not go but I remember thinking how funny it is that a sitting general is having audiences for resolving plot issues.

Does the Delhi Corps Commander (if there is one) worry about the same things? Or does he only think about doing his job from dawn till dusk? Is he being clouded by things like "isko uthaana hay", or maybe "ye cheez media pe band karwaani hay"?

This sort of mission creep has happened everywhere with the army. State within a state type shit. Real third world country stuff.




But you know what? Abhi bhi time hay. Make grassroot politics legal again (Zia banned student unions etc.) and watch genuine political movements rise in the country. You'll get smarter and more capable civilian leaders that you yourself will WANT to vote for.

Imran Khan himself is going to be too old to become PM ever again. He is a vehicle for a civilian supremacy now and that's why so many people still support him, and yes we are aware of his past mistakes of using military to come to power.

Also, if you really hate Imran for using "Riyasat e Madina" as an election slogan..wait till you find out what military has been doing since the 80s with religion. Where do you think all this Taliban, Sipah e Sahaba, Lashkars etc. came from? Also how army subtly portrays itself as the black flag army from Khorasan. I have video of an army officer in full uniform talking about this in PMA.

You can also find online a news clip claiming Ayub Khan's grave had fresh water sprout out from it and big religious posters of Zia Ul Haq. This is just the stuff I can remember off the top of my head.

 

[flyingorca]

You say u don't care about Musharaf then come running to defend a con man that sold us out to the americans without as much as a little pushback. Just let it go brother. I don't care about that traitor as much as you do and he's already died sitting abroad. His family is well settled abroad. They're done with Pakistan. They had their piece of pie after he retired and they ate it.

I hate Nawaz too. I find him to be a corrupt idiot who can never fill his stomach but rights are rights. He was an elected PM and dekho kya tamasha kharra kia in front of the world. Nearly hanged him! For what?



Also, I am still right that Pakistan never won a war. '65 was a stalemate, where Pakistan didn't achieve any of the objectives it set, and actually suffered afterwards due to the sanctions which left us in a very weak situation for 1971. For some reason our military has twisted the history domestically to show that war started on 6 September with Indians opening front on Lahore and Sialkot but this was actually response.....but anyways if you are not even familiar with these events, free to ask much more knowledgeable members here on the exact events. Since I am probably a RAW agent.

That is also why '48 could be considered a partial victory but the hilarious thing is, all the gains were made by irregulars like Lt. Brown and tribesmen. By the time PA and IA deployed, almost no territory was exchanged. In fact PA delayed deployment despite Jinnah's orders.




I can give you a simple example of why military should not be involved in politics. My family had some land issues in Lahore. Long story short, the land was technically ours in some old papers but taken over by a certain society.

Who did we have to get a meeting with to resolve this? The bloody corps commander of Lahore himself. After waiting months of course. I did not go but I remember thinking how funny it is that a sitting general is having audiences for resolving plot issues.

Does the Delhi Corps Commander (if there is one) worry about the same things? Or does he only think about doing his job from dawn till dusk? Is he being clouded by things like "isko uthaana hay", or maybe "ye cheez media pe band karwaani hay"?

This sort of mission creep has happened everywhere with the army. State within a state type shit. Real third world country stuff.




But you know what? Abhi bhi time hay. Make grassroot politics legal again (Zia banned student unions etc.) and watch genuine political movements rise in the country. You'll get smarter and more capable civilian leaders that you yourself will WANT to vote for.

Imran Khan himself is going to be too old to become PM ever again. He is a vehicle for a civilian supremacy now and that's why so many people still support him, and yes we are aware of his past mistakes of using military to come to power.

Also, if you really hate Imran for using "Riyasat e Madina" as an election slogan..wait till you find out what military has been doing since the 80s with religion. Where do you think all this Taliban, Sipah e Sahaba, Lashkars etc. came from? Also how army subtly portrays itself as the black flag army from Khorasan. I have video of an army officer in full uniform talking about this in PMA.

You can also find online a news clip claiming Ayub Khan's grave had fresh water sprout out from it and big religious posters of Zia Ul Haq. This is just the stuff I can remember off the top of my head.

So you want to start a new discussion on WOT? wanst it Imran who supported Musharaf decision to participate in WOT until he got what he wanted from Musharaf and then latched on to Nawaz against Musharaf? Lol he is like a leach like the way how Zios are to America. Always looks for a host to stay alive.
Lets be honest here... Pakistan had no other option but to obey to NEW WORLD ORDER demand. American super power was at its peak during 2000s.... you think those rich billionaires, illuminatis, freemasons, defense cooperations, zios, etc would just back track from their plan to invade Afghanistan if Imrano was the leader of Pakistan at that time? You think absolutely not would have worked back then? Its unfortunate Pakistan geographically is located in such a messy side of the world where you cant just mind your own business and live in peace like New Zealand. Imrandos live in their own delusional bubble where they lack comprehension skills to understand that their is always consequences for your actions. And if Pakistan had not participated no one including China KSA Turkey would have come to Pakistan's support and entire nation would have turned into another Afghanistan but worse. My point is, even though it sucked for Pakistan to participate in WOT but that was a better option then Pakistan getting torn in pieces as a consequences.

Coming back to Kargil, i have made enough arguments about why it was necessary for Pakistan to keep challenging India at LOC. Victory sometimes do not come without defeats. Unless you guys have brainwired yourself to believe India is the good guy all along. Well I have bad news for you. They will catch you off guard. Specially their new generation (not the student protestors who are not even 1 % of India) wants GB AJK, split Pakistan and take your women as sex slaves.

Nearly hanged him for getting Musharaf and rest of the passengers and crew killed. And of course how dare Nawaza challenge his masters authority who nurtured him and made him relevant enough to be on that position.

So atleast you admit 65 was a stalemate from we lost all wars saar
Its not PA's fault the locals did not take up arms against Indians during 65 which goes to show how irrelevant role local Kashmiri tribes had in securing AJK and GB. Because the entire purpose of using a tribal pretext was to portray it as a local uprising, it also matters who has been protecting the LOC which is PA.

Speaking of plot disputes, its usually family members who are stealing each others plots so what now American families are better then Pakistanis because they are not stealing plots and we should copy American family model?

I also have plot related story for you. My wife's phupo had a plot in Pindi and despite telling them to put a wall around her plot boundaries numerous times they simply refused because they are really cheap. Lo and behold soon they get a call from relative kay ap kay plot mai kisi nay kabza ker diya hai. Mind you her hubby is ex army officer and it turns out a PTI official is part of kabza mafia group. I forgot his name but can get it for you. This was back in 2020-21. Even though PTI gov is gone, the plot is also gone from phupo's hands.
And yes, let me remind you that durung Ottoman and Mughal empire, military usually took care of such disputes. Crusaders never involved themselves in such issue so were they better then Salahuddin?
I like your smart2ss comment about New Dhieli corps commander, bet you got that from some Poopjeeta. But maybe the reason is because Lahore is at the border with India while Dheli is 400 km away?

My focus is only Imran khan because I feel like you just keep coming up with new arguments. Army has not yet used religion to justify their rule in the country yet. Unlike Imrano the dajjal, used religion to gain public sympathy votes. Their back bone supporters are still those middle class religious shalwar kameez wearing loog who support IK only because they are under the impression that when IK returns he will bring Islamic system not some democratic reforms based on western model. Even if you bring the best democratic model without military intervention, the common awam will not support you because your system does not include enough Islamic laws.
again, if PTI or Imran Khan declare that Riyasat e Medina was a hoax or slip or tongue, then they can say bye bye tata to 2/3 majority dream.

PS, did you read about Jimmy Goldsmith?
Isnt their more evidence to believe imran khan is a zio project then Asim Munir being a Zio agent which almost every PTI cultist believe?

 

[flyingorca]

 

[flyingorca]

Btw if you google "has Imran Khan accused Israel of sponsoring terrorism"? The answer is no.

 

[Cipher212]

So you want to start a new discussion on WOT? wanst it Imran who supported Musharaf decision to participate in WOT until he got what he wanted from Musharaf and then latched on to Nawaz against Musharaf? Lol he is like a leach like the way how Zios are to America. Always looks for a host to stay alive.
Lets be honest here... Pakistan had no other option but to obey to NEW WORLD ORDER demand. American super power was at its peak during 2000s.... you think those rich billionaires, illuminatis, freemasons, defense cooperations, zios, etc would just back track from their plan to invade Afghanistan if Imrano was the leader of Pakistan at that time? You think absolutely not would have worked back then? Its unfortunate Pakistan geographically is located in such a messy side of the world where you cant just mind your own business and live in peace like New Zealand. Imrandos live in their own delusional bubble where they lack comprehension skills to understand that their is always consequences for your actions. And if Pakistan had not participated no one including China KSA Turkey would have come to Pakistan's support and entire nation would have turned into another Afghanistan but worse. My point is, even though it sucked for Pakistan to participate in WOT but that was a better option then Pakistan getting torn in pieces as a consequences.

Coming back to Kargil, i have made enough arguments about why it was necessary for Pakistan to keep challenging India at LOC. Victory sometimes do not come without defeats. Unless you guys have brainwired yourself to believe India is the good guy all along. Well I have bad news for you. They will catch you off guard. Specially their new generation (not the student protestors who are not even 1 % of India) wants GB AJK, split Pakistan and take your women as sex slaves.

Nearly hanged him for getting Musharaf and rest of the passengers and crew killed. And of course how dare Nawaza challenge his masters authority who nurtured him and made him relevant enough to be on that position.

So atleast you admit 65 was a stalemate from we lost all wars saar
Its not PA's fault the locals did not take up arms against Indians during 65 which goes to show how irrelevant role local Kashmiri tribes had in securing AJK and GB. Because the entire purpose of using a tribal pretext was to portray it as a local uprising, it also matters who has been protecting the LOC which is PA.

Speaking of plot disputes, its usually family members who are stealing each others plots so what now American families are better then Pakistanis because they are not stealing plots and we should copy American family model?

I also have plot related story for you. My wife's phupo had a plot in Pindi and despite telling them to put a wall around her plot boundaries numerous times they simply refused because they are really cheap. Lo and behold soon they get a call from relative kay ap kay plot mai kisi nay kabza ker diya hai. Mind you her hubby is ex army officer and it turns out a PTI official is part of kabza mafia group. I forgot his name but can get it for you. This was back in 2020-21. Even though PTI gov is gone, the plot is also gone from phupo's hands.
And yes, let me remind you that durung Ottoman and Mughal empire, military usually took care of such disputes. Crusaders never involved themselves in such issue so were they better then Salahuddin?
I like your smart2ss comment about New Dhieli corps commander, bet you got that from some Poopjeeta. But maybe the reason is because Lahore is at the border with India while Dheli is 400 km away?

My focus is only Imran khan because I feel like you just keep coming up with new arguments. Army has not yet used religion to justify their rule in the country yet. Unlike Imrano the dajjal, used religion to gain public sympathy votes. Their back bone supporters are still those middle class religious shalwar kameez wearing loog who support IK only because they are under the impression that when IK returns he will bring Islamic system not some democratic reforms based on western model. Even if you bring the best democratic model without military intervention, the common awam will not support you because your system does not include enough Islamic laws.
again, if PTI or Imran Khan declare that Riyasat e Medina was a hoax or slip or tongue, then they can say bye bye tata to 2/3 majority dream.

PS, did you read about Jimmy Goldsmith?
Isnt their more evidence to believe imran khan is a zio project then Asim Munir being a Zio agent which almost every PTI cultist believe?

You've gone off the deep end now.

Anyways, your Pak Army never WON a war. Never lost an election. Always corrupt, always meddling in areas it shouldn't. Can't even control AJK and Balochistan without killing or harassing innocents. Just a shit show of a military all round.

4 years of Munir rule and what do you have to show for it? Zilch.

Thank God we have a professional airforce or 2019/2025 would have gone much different.

 

[Trailer23]

Anyways, your Pak Army never WON a war.

What're you...?

Bulgarian.

...always meddling in areas it shouldn't.

Agreed.

Always taking a chance of brining in idiots like Sharif Bros & Imran Khan.

Don't know what the Establishment was smoking when they helped him win in 2017.

4 years of Munir rule and what do you have to show for it? Zilch.

Zilch, huh ...

That's why the President of the United States talks abour our Field Marshal & not his old buddy, IK.

I'm sorry, but did you just wake up? The Defence Pact we just signed with KSA & Turkey... Who is responsible for us to be at the World stage? Showbaz Sharif. Your 804 Leader...

 

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You've gone off the deep end now.

Anyways, your Pak Army never WON a war. Never lost an election. Always corrupt, always meddling in areas it shouldn't. Can't even control AJK and Balochistan without killing or harassing innocents. Just a shit show of a military all round.

4 years of Munir rule and what do you have to show for it? Zilch.

Thank God we have a professional airforce or 2019/2025 would have gone much different.

Don't mind him, as he does just pick and choose. He can stretch claims and just stick anything out of the passage to support his narrative.

Also, he is obsessed with dajjal. We can say somebody is corrupt or a liar, but declaring someone dajjal without seeing clear signs is an act of transgression. Labelling someone yazeed is acceptable, as he is not part of prophecy as dajjal. On top of that, labelling a seemingly devoted person who was conducting Seerah Day and managed to get International Day to combat islamophobia.

Pak essentially never won a war. An indirect victory was defeating the Soviets. 65 and 99 were similar disasters orchestrated in drawing rooms. Better not to say about 71. 48 was a local victory.

 

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keep up your stupidity...

think you are the ones screwing Pakistan but some it is Khan's fault?.. hhahahahhaha

patwarans = zionist = Rss hindus = Faujeeets = cess pool of human trash