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OH wow , so Islam is arab religion now?
WOW lol.

so we call christianity is palestinian and judaism Egyptian (since moses was here in Egypt) ? LOL

you're 100% with autism , no , 1000%.
Islam originated in Arabia and was spread by Arabs. It's holy language is Arabic. By all purposes it is an Arab religion in origin.

Christianity is an Arab/Jewish religion. There was no Palestine back then (as in country or peoples).
In fact all 3 are Abrahamic religions - in other words Semitic religions - which is why they are so similar.


They have borrowed many concepts from pre-Abrahamic ancient Semitic religions.

 
Islam originated in Arabia and was spread by Arabs. It's holy language is Arabic. By all purposes it is an Arab religion in origin.

Christianity is an Arab/Jewish religion. There was no Palestine back then (as in country or peoples).
In fact all 3 are Abrahamic religions - in other words Semitic religions - which is why they are so similar.


They have borrowed many concepts from pre-Abrahamic ancient Semitic religions.


The Arabic Christianity should be the pre-Islamic version of the Abrahamic religion which was radically different from the European Christianity that has been heavily modified by the Europeans to suit their need.
 
Because the Turks understood their tactics right?
Mongols did a lot of damage no doubt. But in the end we managed to defeat them.

1. Khwarazmian Turks vs Mongols (1219–1221)

The Khwarazmian Empire was Turkic‑Persian in culture, ruled by the Anushtegin Turkic dynasty.

They fought the Mongols in:

  • Battle of Otrar (1219)
  • Battle of Bukhara (1220)
  • Battle of Samarkand (1220)
  • Battle of Urgench (1221)
They were ultimately defeated, but they were the first major Turkic power to resist the Mongols head‑on.

2. Kipchak Turks vs Mongols (1223)

The Kipchak/Cuman Turks fought alongside the Rus’ principalities.

  • Battle of the Kalka River (1223) They were defeated, but this was one of the earliest large‑scale Turkic engagements with


3. Seljuk Turks vs Mongols (1243–1256)

The Seljuk Sultanate of Rum fought the Mongols in:

  • Battle of Köse Dağ (1243) — Seljuks defeated
  • Revolts 1256–1260 — Seljuk Turkic beyliks resisted Mongol rule
Although defeated, the Seljuks became semi‑autonomous under Mongol suzerainty and continued resisting through local beyliks.


4. Mamluk Sultanate (Turkic military elite) vs Mongols — the decisive defeats
This is the big one.
The Mamluk Sultanate was ruled by a Turkic military caste (Kipchak, Oghuz, Qipchaq, Circassian later).

They are the only medieval power to consistently defeat the Mongols.

Battle of Ain Jalut (1260)
First major Mongol defeat in open battle

Commanders: Qutuz and Baybars (both Turkic Mamluks)

Battle of Homs (1260)
Another Mamluk victory over Mongol forces

Battle of Elbistan (1277)
Mamluk victory under Baybars

Battle of Homs (1281)
Mamluks defeat Mongol‑Ilkhanid army again

Battle of Wadi al‑Khaznadar (1299)
Mongol victory, but temporary

Battle of Marj al‑Saffar (1303)
Final decisive Mamluk victory

Mongols never returned to Syria after this

The Mamluks are the reason the Mongols never conquered Egypt or Arabia.
 
From what we have learned from our history course.

After the death of Genghis Khan, the Mongol Empire basically became divided as all children of Genghis Khan were fighting for the throne of the Great Khan.

They basically stopped marching toward the west in both Europe and Middle East.

And they also tried with a smaller group of 10K men to march toward Egypt, then got defeated in the buffer zone of Levant.
Turkic peoples (real ones from Central Asia/Siberia) came to the Middle East mostly as slaves or mercenaries of Arab empires and caliphates. Hence how the word Mamluk came to be (you can google the meaning of this word).

Also due to Arab control of Central Asia. After all the Abbasid Empire fought and won battles against the Tang Dynasty in Central Asia.


Later they became assimilated and Arabized and merged with locals. Arabs started focusing less on the military (after consolidating empires and caliphates) and started their focus on art, science, architecture, literature, poetry etc. Over time Mamluks (mostly Turkic peoples but also Caucasians such as Circassians) gained military power and at one point in time in places like Egypt (Mamluk) established their own rule.

But of course they pioneered Arab Muslim civilization just as the Mongols (Yuan dynasty) did with the Chinese civilizations when they controlled China.
 
Mongols did a lot of damage no doubt. But in the end we managed to defeat them.

1. Khwarazmian Turks vs Mongols (1219–1221)

The Khwarazmian Empire was Turkic‑Persian in culture, ruled by the Anushtegin Turkic dynasty.

They fought the Mongols in:

  • Battle of Otrar (1219)
  • Battle of Bukhara (1220)
  • Battle of Samarkand (1220)
  • Battle of Urgench (1221)
They were ultimately defeated, but they were the first major Turkic power to resist the Mongols head‑on.

2. Kipchak Turks vs Mongols (1223)

The Kipchak/Cuman Turks fought alongside the Rus’ principalities.

  • Battle of the Kalka River (1223) They were defeated, but this was one of the earliest large‑scale Turkic engagements with


3. Seljuk Turks vs Mongols (1243–1256)

The Seljuk Sultanate of Rum fought the Mongols in:

  • Battle of Köse Dağ (1243) — Seljuks defeated
  • Revolts 1256–1260 — Seljuk Turkic beyliks resisted Mongol rule
Although defeated, the Seljuks became semi‑autonomous under Mongol suzerainty and continued resisting through local beyliks.


4. Mamluk Sultanate (Turkic military elite) vs Mongols — the decisive defeats
This is the big one.
The Mamluk Sultanate was ruled by a Turkic military caste (Kipchak, Oghuz, Qipchaq, Circassian later).

They are the only medieval power to consistently defeat the Mongols.

Battle of Ain Jalut (1260)
First major Mongol defeat in open battle

Commanders: Qutuz and Baybars (both Turkic Mamluks)

Battle of Homs (1260)
Another Mamluk victory over Mongol forces

Battle of Elbistan (1277)
Mamluk victory under Baybars

Battle of Homs (1281)
Mamluks defeat Mongol‑Ilkhanid army again

Battle of Wadi al‑Khaznadar (1299)
Mongol victory, but temporary

Battle of Marj al‑Saffar (1303)
Final decisive Mamluk victory

Mongols never returned to Syria after this

The Mamluks are the reason the Mongols never conquered Egypt or Arabia.

They were also heavily focusing to defeat China.

The grandson of Genghis Khan and older brother of Kublai Khan, Mongke Khan was killed in a war campaign against China.


He was de facto the last Great Khan still formally controlled the entire Mongol Empire, although already fissured compared to the Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan.

His successor and younger brother Kublai Khan only controlled part of the Mongol Empire.
 
The Arabic Christianity should be the pre-Islamic version of the Abrahamic religion which was radically different from the European Christianity that has been heavily modified by the Europeans to suit their need.
Arab Christians of today, many of them, are not under the Pope (many famous powerful pre-Islamic Arab kingdoms were Christian - Lakhmids, Ghassanids and others - some of the earliest Popes were also Arab in origin) and have their own much older Christian sects. There are also Assyrians (our cousins and closely related to Arabs - Arabic and Assyrian are similar languages - much like Han dialects) who have their own churches.

In Jordan you have many Bedouin Christian Arab tribes even.


A small percentage of Jordanian Christians are Bedouin, the picture shows a Bedouin Christian family from Madaba in 1904

Christianity (origin) was mostly a purely Semitic/Abrahamic religion (most of it still is) but it mixed with European (mostly Roman and Greek) pagan religions to create modern-day Christianity.
For instance the concept of saints in Christianity is a pagan tradition. The. date of Christmas is also based on winter solstice which were days of festivals (religious) among Roman and Greek pagans.

It is all connected. Roman and Greeks borrowed heavily from much older civilizations based in the Arab world. I covered this topic earlier in this thread with multiple sources. Later the same Romans and Greeks influenced parts of the Arab world as well.

Historically, genetically, culturally etc. there have always been close ties between the Arab world and next door Southern Europe.

For instance the Semitic Phoenicians (closely related to Arabs) established the oldest continuously inhabited cities in Europe such as Lisbon, Cádiz and many other prominent cities. They established many colonies across Southern Europe. They themselves claimed origins from ancient Eastern Arabia (Dilmun) but we are not sure if this is a foundation myth or reality and we will never know most likely.



 
Turkic peoples (real ones from Central Asia/Siberia) came to the Middle East mostly as slaves or mercenaries of Arab empires and caliphates. Hence how the word Mamluk came to be (you can google the meaning of this word).

Also due to Arab control of Central Asia. After all the Abbasid Empire fought and won battles against the Tang Dynasty in Central Asia.


Later they became assimilated and Arabized and merged with locals. Arabs started focusing less on the military (after consolidating empires and caliphates) and started their focus on art, science, architecture, literature, poetry etc. Over time Mamluks (mostly Turkic peoples but also Caucasians such as Circassians) gained military power and at one point in time in places like Egypt (Mamluk) established their own rule.

But of course they pioneered Arab Muslim civilization just as the Mongols (Yuan dynasty) did with the Chinese civilizations when they controlled China.

The Turks were originally the mercenaries and slaves deployed by the Tang Dynasty because the Tang Dynasty had destroyed their Gokturk Empire and enslaved their people.


Because of the historical grievance against the Tang Dynasty, they converted themselves into Islam and helped the Abbasid to defeat Tang.
 
I don't have a problem with Arabs , I love all people whether arabs or persians or turks or pakistanis or chinese etc as long as we share same faith and same purpose , i like all other humans too who carry no hate ( such as spainards who stand with the palestinian cause).

Hating is wrong and i'm not on the thread to to attack this or that , i just don't like lies based on nationalism , it's wrong.

and my origin is for myself , i'm a muslim and that's good for me.

you need to stop posting false info , it's not bad to be proud of your origin just don't publish fake info.
So you cannot tells us whether you are an Egyptian Arab (85 + of the Egyptian population), an Copt (related peoples to Arabs), a Nubian (same thing) or some other more "recent" minority like Albanian etc.?

So why all the absurd nonsense posts about Arabs and many Arab countries? Are you basing your whole viewpoint of entire peoples (nationalities) and countries based on some trolls online?

So if I started to heavily insult Egypt and Egyptians or the opposite you would adjust your opinions based on such behavior.:ROFLMAO:

Have you seen the hordes of uninformed Egyptian trolls on X and elsewhere? Every nationality have them. Should I and other Arabs start hating our own people (Egyptians) due to such individuals?

This is not a kindergarden.

Which lies? Everything that I wrote I have backed up with sources as I wrote. I did not invent anything from thin air. Now there will always be scholarly disagreements but the sources (that I posted) all exist.

I did not write a single thing that cannot be backed up by some source (s).

Honestly I think that you have spent too much time online reading the cesspool that is social media and Arab social media in particular (X is toxic for a reason and nobody is better or worse than the other here - many good users as well but the loud minority creates the agendas and trending topics - many are government founded from both sides).

It is not the real world.
 
They were also heavily focusing to defeat China.

The grandson of Genghis Khan and older brother of Kublai Khan, Mongke Khan was killed in a war campaign against China.


He was de facto the last Great Khan still formally controlled the entire Mongol Empire, although already fissured compared to the Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan.

His successor and younger brother Kublai Khan only controlled part of the Mongol Empire.

Temüjin was named after a Turkic person. This is a documented fact.

1. The name “Temüjin” comes from a Turkic man captured by his father

According to the Secret History of the Mongols (the earliest Mongol source):

  • Temüjin’s father, Yesügei, captured a Tatar warrior named Temüjin.
  • The newborn was named after that man.
The Tatars of the 12th century were Turkic-speaking, not Mongolic.

So Temüjin’s name is literally taken from a Turkic individual.

This is the earliest and most authoritative source on Genghis Khan’s life.

2. The name “Temüjin” itself is built on a Turkic root

The name Temüjin is linguistically connected to the Turkic word:

  • Temür / Demir = iron
  • Temürči = blacksmith
  • Temürjin / Temüjin = ironworker / son of the blacksmith
This is a Turkic word, not originally Mongolic.

Mongolian later borrowed the word (modern Mongolian: tömör = iron).

So both the origin of the name and the linguistic structure are Turkic.


3. The steppe world was Turkic-Mongol mixed

By the 12th century:

  • Mongols used Turkic titles (Khan, Tarkan, Baghatur, Khatun).
  • Mongols used Turkic military terms.
  • Mongols used Turkic personal names.
  • Many of Genghis Khan’s generals had Turkic names (Jebe, Sübetei, Buka, Qulan, Temür, etc.).
So a Turkic name for Temüjin is completely normal for the era.


“Genghis Khan” itself is also Turkic in structure

  • Khan = Turkic title
  • Chinggis / Cinggis has Turkic parallels (e.g., tengiz = sea, great expanse)
The Mongols adopted the Turkic title Khan centuries before Temüjin.

In case you was wondering why Turks are called Mongols by Greeks. :ROFLMAO:
 

Temüjin was named after a Turkic person. This is a documented fact.

1. The name “Temüjin” comes from a Turkic man captured by his father

According to the Secret History of the Mongols (the earliest Mongol source):

  • Temüjin’s father, Yesügei, captured a Tatar warrior named Temüjin.
  • The newborn was named after that man.
The Tatars of the 12th century were Turkic-speaking, not Mongolic.

So Temüjin’s name is literally taken from a Turkic individual.

This is the earliest and most authoritative source on Genghis Khan’s life.

2. The name “Temüjin” itself is built on a Turkic root

The name Temüjin is linguistically connected to the Turkic word:

  • Temür / Demir = iron
  • Temürči = blacksmith
  • Temürjin / Temüjin = ironworker / son of the blacksmith
This is a Turkic word, not originally Mongolic.

Mongolian later borrowed the word (modern Mongolian: tömör = iron).

So both the origin of the name and the linguistic structure are Turkic.


3. The steppe world was Turkic-Mongol mixed

By the 12th century:

  • Mongols used Turkic titles (Khan, Tarkan, Baghatur, Khatun).
  • Mongols used Turkic military terms.
  • Mongols used Turkic personal names.
  • Many of Genghis Khan’s generals had Turkic names (Jebe, Sübetei, Buka, Qulan, Temür, etc.).
So a Turkic name for Temüjin is completely normal for the era.


“Genghis Khan” itself is also Turkic in structure

  • Khan = Turkic title
  • Chinggis / Cinggis has Turkic parallels (e.g., tengiz = sea, great expanse)
The Mongols adopted the Turkic title Khan centuries before Temüjin.

In case you was wondering why Turks are called Mongols by Greeks. :ROFLMAO:

Mongol = Khitan mixed with Turk

The eastern mongols have more affinity with Khitans, while the western mongols more with Turks.

Mongolia was basically the old homeland for Turks, then the Khitans migrated from Northeast China forest into the Mongolian steppe to intermarry with the remaining Turks to create a brand new ethnicity in the 10-11th century known as the Mongols.
 
So you cannot tells us whether you are an Egyptian Arab (85 + of the Egyptian population), an Copt (related peoples to Arabs), a Nubian (same thing) or some other more "recent" minority like Albanian etc.?

So why all the absurd nonsense posts about Arabs and many Arab countries? Are you basing your whole viewpoint of entire peoples (nationalities) and countries based on some trolls online?

So if I started to heavily insult Egypt and Egyptians or the opposite you would adjust your opinions based on such behavior.:ROFLMAO:

Have you seen the hordes of uninformed Egyptian trolls on X and elsewhere? Every nationality have them. Should I and other Arabs start hating our own people (Egyptians) due to such individuals?

This is not a kindergarden.

Which lies? Everything that I wrote I have backed up with sources as I wrote. I did not invent anything from thin air. Now there will always be scholarly disagreements but the sources (that I posted) all exist.

I did not write a single thing that cannot be backed up by some source (s).

Honestly I think that you have spent too much time online reading the cesspool that is social media and Arab social media in particular (X is toxic for a reason and nobody is better or worse than the other here - many good users as well but the loud minority creates the agendas and trending topics - many are government founded from both sides).

It is not the real world.
Do you think pyramids were built by arabs? Serious question really.
 

Temüjin was named after a Turkic person. This is a documented fact.

1. The name “Temüjin” comes from a Turkic man captured by his father

According to the Secret History of the Mongols (the earliest Mongol source):

  • Temüjin’s father, Yesügei, captured a Tatar warrior named Temüjin.
  • The newborn was named after that man.
The Tatars of the 12th century were Turkic-speaking, not Mongolic.

So Temüjin’s name is literally taken from a Turkic individual.

This is the earliest and most authoritative source on Genghis Khan’s life.

2. The name “Temüjin” itself is built on a Turkic root

The name Temüjin is linguistically connected to the Turkic word:

  • Temür / Demir = iron
  • Temürči = blacksmith
  • Temürjin / Temüjin = ironworker / son of the blacksmith
This is a Turkic word, not originally Mongolic.

Mongolian later borrowed the word (modern Mongolian: tömör = iron).

So both the origin of the name and the linguistic structure are Turkic.


3. The steppe world was Turkic-Mongol mixed

By the 12th century:

  • Mongols used Turkic titles (Khan, Tarkan, Baghatur, Khatun).
  • Mongols used Turkic military terms.
  • Mongols used Turkic personal names.
  • Many of Genghis Khan’s generals had Turkic names (Jebe, Sübetei, Buka, Qulan, Temür, etc.).
So a Turkic name for Temüjin is completely normal for the era.


“Genghis Khan” itself is also Turkic in structure

  • Khan = Turkic title
  • Chinggis / Cinggis has Turkic parallels (e.g., tengiz = sea, great expanse)
The Mongols adopted the Turkic title Khan centuries before Temüjin.

In case you was wondering why Turks are called Mongols by Greeks. :ROFLMAO:
Turks and Mongols were cousins. Same as all the other minorities native to the Arab world (Semitic and non-Semitic) and Arabs. Both influenced each other. Usually that happens when you live next to each other.

Most of the dynasties that are claimed as Turkic were in fact originally Mongol but later Turkified.

For examples the Mughals were originally Mongol (Barlas tribe),


same with the Timurids


and same wit the Golden Horde who were of Mongol origin (descendants of Genghis Khan)


They became Turkicized and many of them later adopted Islam due to many Turkic peoples (at that time) being Muslim due to mostly Arab prior conquest of Central Asia and power of Muslim caliphates and kingdoms.

Crimean Khanate also claimed Mongol origin.



 
Turks and Mongols were cousins. Same as all the other minorities native to the Arab world (Semitic and non-Semitic) and Arabs. Both influenced each other. Usually that happens when you live next to each other.

Most of the dynasties that are claimed as Turkic were in fact originally Mongol but later Turkified.

For examples the Mughals were originally Mongol (Barlas tribe),


same with the Timurids


and same wit the Golden Horde who were of Mongol origin (descendants of Genghis Khan)


They became Turkicized and many of them later adopted Islam due to many Turkic peoples (at that time) being Muslim due to mostly Arab prior conquest of Central Asia and power of Muslim caliphates and kingdoms.

Crimean Khanate also claimed Mongol origin.




Their original religion was the Tengrism.


Wondering if the Sunni Islam version of the Ottoman was also influenced by their ancestral Tengrism?

Since the Mongols still heavily retained their Tengrism practise even after the Islamic conversion.
 
Islam originated in Arabia and was spread by Arabs. It's holy language is Arabic. By all purposes it is an Arab religion in origin.

Christianity is an Arab/Jewish religion. There was no Palestine back then (as in country or peoples).
In fact all 3 are Abrahamic religions - in other words Semitic religions - which is why they are so similar.
huh?
There was no Palestine back then (as in country or peoples).???

Philistines (in English Palestinians , in Arabic falistniyans) were there thousands of years ago , stop posting BS
Here is the documented historical, archaeological, and genetic evidence confirming the presence of the Philistines in the southern coastal region of historical Palestine during the Iron Age (circa 1200 BCE).

Archaeological Evidence
  • The Five Pentapolis Cities: Extensive excavations have uncovered their highly developed urban network, consisting of five core cities: Gaza, Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron (Tel Miqne), and Gath (Tell es-Safi).
  • The Ashkelon Philistine Cemetery: Discovered in 2016 by the Leon Levy Expedition, this marks the first-ever complete Philistine cemetery found. It contained over 150 human remains buried alongside perfume jugs, jewelry, and weapons, reflecting unique Aegean burial customs.
  • Distinctive Pottery (Philistine Bichrome): Excavations revealed unique two-colored pottery decorated with birds and geometric patterns. This style perfectly matches Mycenaean (ancient Greek) pottery, proving their maritime roots.
  • Unique Architecture: Digs at sites like Tel Qasile uncovered Philistine temples featuring architectural layouts entirely different from the surrounding local Canaanite styles of that period.

Ancient Inscriptions and Written Records
  • Egyptian Hieroglyphs (Medinet Habu): Pharaoh Ramesses III recorded his victory over the "Sea Peoples" on his mortuary temple walls. The inscriptions explicitly name the "Peleset" (PRST), depicting them in distinct feathered headdresses and kilts.
  • Assyrian Royal Annals: Records from Assyrian kings (such as Sargon II and Sennacherib) frequently mention the coastal region as "Palastu" or "Pilistu", documenting the tribute paid by Philistine city-kings.
  • The Bible and Ancient Texts: Hebrew scriptures and later Greek histories consistently place the Philistines along the southwestern coast, referring to their territory as Philistia.

Genetic Evidence (DNA)
  • 2019 Archaeogenetic Study: A landmark DNA study published in Science Advances analyzed skeletal remains from the Ashkelon cemetery. The results proved that the early Iron Age Philistines carried a distinct Southern European (Aegean/Cretan) genetic signature. Over the centuries, this signature blended into the local Canaanite gene pool.
The distinct political and cultural identity of the Philistines faded after the Babylonian conquests by Nebuchadnezzar II in the 6th century BCE. However, their name endured when Greek and Roman historians later applied it to the broader geographic region, calling it Palestine.
 
Do you think pyramids were built by arabs? Serious question really.
No, I don't. Where did I ever claim that? They were built by Afro-Asiatic speaking ancient Egyptians who were and are closely related (DNA wise) to fellow Afro-Asiatic speaking Arabs and other next door Semitic peoples.

Later same peoples (Semitic-speaking peoples from Arabia next door and Levant) created Semitic-origin Egyptian dynasties - I linked to one of them (Hyksos) who had Semitic names - not ancient Egyptian names.

Semitic peoples originally from Arabia (Babylonians - originally Amorites - from Arabian and Syrian desert) built Ziggurats.


Ancient Neolithic Arabians built the largest ancient man-made structures more than 10.000 + years ago. Some as far back as 15.000 + years ago.

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Egyptian civilization (pre-Islamic) is a related civilization but it is not an Arab one and nobody (sane) claims it as an Arab civilization.

Just like we do not call ancient civilizations in modern-day KSA and Arabia such as Dilmun, Magar and many others for "Arab". They were created by our ancestors but they were not Arab. Because Arab and Egyptian are only a few 1000's of years (5000 and 3500 + years) recorded identities but some civilizations and cultures are 11.000.

Take Al-Magar in KSA as an example. 11.000 + years old (based in Hejaz and Najd).


Or Dilmun in Eastern Arabia (considered holy land/paradise (origin of the Garden of Eden story) by Sumerians next door) and contemporary of IVC next door. 5500 years old.



Ancient Arabian civilization, yes, but can we claim them to be Arabs? I would claim them as native Semitic-speaking Arabians.

Arab, Egyptian are much later identity concepts. Obviously our ancestors were tied to the land but peoples identies change over time.

2000 + years ago most educated Egyptians spoke Greek (did not make them Greek) for example. You should get the point now.

huh?
There was no Palestine back then (as in country or peoples).???

Philistines (in English Palestinians , in Arabic falistniyans) were there thousands of years ago , stop posting BS
Here is the documented historical, archaeological, and genetic evidence confirming the presence of the Philistines in the southern coastal region of historical Palestine during the Iron Age (circa 1200 BCE).

🏛️ Archaeological Evidence
  • The Five Pentapolis Cities: Extensive excavations have uncovered their highly developed urban network, consisting of five core cities: Gaza, Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron (Tel Miqne), and Gath (Tell es-Safi).
  • The Ashkelon Philistine Cemetery: Discovered in 2016 by the Leon Levy Expedition, this marks the first-ever complete Philistine cemetery found. It contained over 150 human remains buried alongside perfume jugs, jewelry, and weapons, reflecting unique Aegean burial customs.
  • Distinctive Pottery (Philistine Bichrome): Excavations revealed unique two-colored pottery decorated with birds and geometric patterns. This style perfectly matches Mycenaean (ancient Greek) pottery, proving their maritime roots.
  • Unique Architecture: Digs at sites like Tel Qasile uncovered Philistine temples featuring architectural layouts entirely different from the surrounding local Canaanite styles of that period.

📜 Ancient Inscriptions and Written Records
  • Egyptian Hieroglyphs (Medinet Habu): Pharaoh Ramesses III recorded his victory over the "Sea Peoples" on his mortuary temple walls. The inscriptions explicitly name the "Peleset" (PRST), depicting them in distinct feathered headdresses and kilts.
  • Assyrian Royal Annals: Records from Assyrian kings (such as Sargon II and Sennacherib) frequently mention the coastal region as "Palastu" or "Pilistu", documenting the tribute paid by Philistine city-kings.
  • The Bible and Ancient Texts: Hebrew scriptures and later Greek histories consistently place the Philistines along the southwestern coast, referring to their territory as Philistia.

🧬 Genetic Evidence (DNA)
  • 2019 Archaeogenetic Study: A landmark DNA study published in Science Advances analyzed skeletal remains from the Ashkelon cemetery. The results proved that the early Iron Age Philistines carried a distinct Southern European (Aegean/Cretan) genetic signature. Over the centuries, this signature blended into the local Canaanite gene pool.
The distinct political and cultural identity of the Philistines faded after the Babylonian conquests by Nebuchadnezzar II in the 6th century BCE. However, their name endured when Greek and Roman historians later applied it to the broader geographic region, calling it Palestine.
There was no such country called Palestine. They were mostly Nabateans (an Arab people), and other closely Semitic-speaking peoples. Canaanites for instance. Palestine is a historical region but there was never a kingdom, empire or other political entity (back then) called Palestine etc. It was called Sham.

And the Greek myth is nonsense. Modern-day Palestines are purely local Semites as were the ancient people. Nothing to do with any Greeks.

You can check every DNA test of both old mummies (from Canaanite era all the way back to Natufian era) and modern-day populations.
 
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