PTI news, updates and discussions part ll

[flyingorca]

Munir's "wonders" are pure optics. We did not get any tangible benefits from any of that stuff. No new investments no deals that aren't MoUs. Nothing of the sort.

I'm not going to say it's bad foreign policy but it's just handshakes and smiles so far. We're not actually gaining anything from it. Economy statistics will show you that accurately. Pacts and MoUs don't bring in any money.

As for civilian government. This is a good example of army propaganda seeping into the minds of people. We have accepted in our minds that civilians will somehow ruin the country through bad policy.

Civilians can be every bit shrewd as the faujis are. Even with civilian government you'll have an "establishment" that will be taking more sensitive decisions. Like whether or not to join a war or start one. All civil operated countries have these safe guards so this is not a valid point.

As for IK not being a good slave and rebelling against the military that brought him in. Good for him. We did not come into this world to be in servitude to chaps who still like to dress up like their old colonial masters.

Army can also end this dilemna of people hating it by doing one simple thing (Faujeets hate this trick!!?l) that would be to go back to their damn barracks and let the civilians dictate policy. As per the Quaid's original orders. We've tried all hybrid regimes and dictatorships now. It doesn't work.

At this point, it seems like you're avoiding my arguments and simply repeating the same talking points that I have already addressed and debunked.
Below is a list of several arguments and points I raised that you have yet to directly address. Instead of repeating the same claims, please respond to each point individually and explain why you disagree with the specific evidence or reasoning I presented.

- The reason behind Imran Khan's popularity is mainly because of hope he has given his supporter that he is the man who will implement true Islamic system in Pakistan. If Imran or PTI declare that Riyasat e Medina was just a political stunt and their wont be any Islamic system then it will be end of him and his party's dream of 2/3 majority.

- No matter how perfect of a democratic secular political solution you find for Pakistan, it will never win hearts of the people since for them Islam comes first. You may win some votes but majority of people wont even entertain such system. His KPK would be effected badly if they get rude awakening to reality.

- You did not provide any point as to what transpired that resulted in rift between IK and the establishment?

I chose not to respond back to your above post point by point is because you are just going round in circle.

 

[flyingorca]

Wajahat and Mowed were fauj-eet Pro Max and Adil Raja was literally a soldier (a ranked officer) before they got burned.

A better question is, why does the military keep giving birth to such characters? I really doubt it's part of their organisational objectives to produce and manufacture touts.

They should redirect their energies at more concerning issues within their institute. Like how they're still sending dudes out to patrol in Hiluxes in the Big 26.

Traitors are found in every ranks. You should take a look at PTI where traitors come in and go like its a r**** khana. Btw do you know who is one of the biggest traitor for the establishment? Immi bahi, jo army kay boots chat chat kay PM bana and then bit them in the ass.

 

[flyingorca]

Thats exactly why it was good propaganda. It didn't let you realize.

Are you talking about urdu dubbed Ertugrul a project by Imrand khand which made every imrando pretend he was riding on a horse ready to save Halime but were heart broken when they found out their princess Halime was partying at the beach
Btw the irony of that drama is all the generals were also doing politics

 

[Trailer23]

Wajahat and Mowed were fauj-eet Pro Max...

I think the bigger question is what would you call your great Leader, then...?

Wasn't he a tout too?

I'm just wondering why none of the pro-PTI guys have not given in to the fact that there was something called : Project Imran Khan

That seems to be the part you all find acceptable. How many of you fell for the 'Same Page'?

Ab bait kay ees Topic pay discuss kartay rehna with Noor Jehan's music in the background.

Oh & if WSK & Moeed were "F@ujeet" Pro Max, why are some of you still posting THEIR videos?

PTI-supporters are just like the Leadership...- confused.

 

[Cipher212]

I think the bigger question is what would you call your great Leader, then...?

Wasn't he a tout too?

I'm just wondering why none of the pro-PTI guys have not given in to the fact that there was something called : Project Imran Khan

That seems to be the part you all find acceptable. How many of you fell for the 'Same Page'?

Ab bait kay ees Topic pay discuss kartay rehna with Noor Jehan's music in the background.

Oh & if WSK & Moeed were "F@ujeet" Pro Max, why are some of you still posting THEIR videos?

PTI-supporters are just like the Leadership...- confused.

Well everything is relative. Imran took army backing around 2010-2011 and out of nowhere was propelled from Mr Single Seat to serious contender. Till 2021 this honeymoon lasted.

However since then he has been staunchly anti establishment. This on its own is not worth anything because Sharifs and Bhuttos go through this cycle as well.

So what is the difference? Khan is not budging for a deal. It's been 4 years now and he's been offered a deal countless times. In comparison, Sharif and Bhutto do the whole anti-establishment routine as means to get back into their graces via a deal.

So he will remain popular as long as he is on this path. If he goes back to 'same page' his support will automatically die out.

In summary, he's made the mistake once. It's not a revolving door with him like it is with all other civilian leaders who are practically side hoes of the army at this point.

Coming back to these traitors. Not only these guys but Imran Riaz and that other ex officer (Haider Mehdi?) and pretty much everyone who's run abroad. All of them were Fauji stooges. So I must ask once again, why is the Fauj spending money on this? Why are they participating in politics so earnestly? And I don't share their videos because I care zilch what they gotta say. They will come running back to eat from Fauji hand if they ever got the chance.

Kya PMA me larna seekhtay hay ya political science?

 

[Cipher212]

Traitors are found in every ranks. You should take a look at PTI where traitors come in and go like its a r**** khana. Btw do you know who is one of the biggest traitor for the establishment? Immi bahi, jo army kay boots chat chat kay PM bana and then bit them in the ass.

Chalay that is great. The Great Dajaal Ul Fitna Bin Hindustan Al Yahudi has been vanquished for four years now.

Ab wo progress jo hona tha......

 

[Goenitz]

Coming back to these traitors. Not only these guys but Imran Riaz and that other ex officer (Haider Mehdi?) and pretty much everyone who's run abroad. All of them were Fauji stooges. So I must ask once again, why is the Fauj spending money on this? Why are they participating in politics so earnestly? And I don't share their videos because I care zilch what they gotta say. They will come running back to eat from Fauji hand if they ever got the chance.

I am not sure if they will 'revert' back but the entire Pakistan was with the army before 2022, at least. So, should we immolate ourselves for that, or hate our past?
Also, I don't think Arshad Sharif and Imran Riaz were getting monetary benefits. Moeed could be getting something (according to Ammar Solangi), but there were some ideological journalists, like PTI+ISPR media team.