Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BHAN85]

People forget most people who join the US military are increasingly minorities and from lower economic classes of US society.

Basically Hispanics, Asians, Arabs, Indians, and Blacks who need a job and the benefits package of post military life (health insurance and GI bill). Without these benefits they would be resorting to working menial jobs in society. So to them it makes sense to serve for several years.Whites enlisting are mostly from rural red states and conservatives, but becoming less and less % of the total U.S. military each year.

So yeah I’m not suprised that there are segments of the U.S. military that protest like this or don’t want to be in this war. Their original reason to signing up wasn’t to fight and to serve their country. They are there for a paycheck and benefits like any other worker.

I think the complains are in the opposite direction you say.

They are complaining because they know they are NOT serving their country, they are serving Israel.

 

[BHAN85]

Not gonna change much on the ground, American public as much of aware they are they have no power to change anything, lobbies like AIPAC are just too powerful for any US president or Congress leader to go against, and not to mention powerful CEO's, media groups, printed press, influencers, and Millions of mindless zombies aka Evangelica Christians who wants to bring Jews in full power so their Texas Jesus can return. I have seen Americans throw their own soldiers under the bus, abuse them and dicard them like a toilet paper when they stand up against Israel. So images like that, or anyone come out against Israel or Bibi won't change anything on ground. You have laws in US (40+ States) where you have to take oath that you won't boycott Israel or else you will not get any state contracts, you have US Marco Rubio openly saying that if you critcize Israel we will deny your visa or entry, America is a lost cause when it comes to Israel. Things won't change here because the Israeli's know that America is their last protector, and if America falls or change its path from Israel they will not survive, none of the middle powers like UK/France/Germany won't be able to do anything against a combine Arab power but what world actually fears is USA power, so Israel will fight tooth and nail to keep USA under for control, be its Political leadership, media, celebrity or social media.

Yeah, but lack of motivation among military men it has real effects in war.

 

[Starlord]

Yeah, but lack of motivation among military men it has real effects in war.

Even without motivation US is a powerhouse. And AIPAC and lobby is good at manufacturing and telling Americans who to hate and who their enemy is.

 

[Shags101]

Many different nationalities joined the US military or worked for agencies in the last 25 years. I know some Afghans and Pakistanis who did some stints as interpreters in Afghanistan at 100k annual tax free. Many Arabs also worked as interpreters in Iraq. If you were a contract armed mercenary in Iraq in the 2000's you were making almost 200k annual.

I don’t disagree to lump Arabs as if they are running to the military like yes many minorities isn’t really fair as I said minuscule and yes many of these folks Arab Hispanic or otherwise would be used for their language skills……why i didn’t join the military out of high school my Arabic sucks and when I have traveled to Palestine family and friends will tell me to speak English children speak more Arabic than me my parents for some reason spoke English to me but my siblings are fluent

 

[Immortals]

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5 ships x 1 Mb per ship = 5 million barrels + UAE pipeline 2MB =7 MB + 2-3 MB from Saudi pipeline (Yanbu) = 10 million barrels vs the 17-20 MBPD that was passing thru the strait pre war.

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[Immortals]

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[Shags101]

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/trump-wants-more-economic-pressure-iran-what-are-his-options-2026-08-16/

What are his options?

Only thing I can think of is forcing countries to close their borders with Iran with threat of economic sanctions on those countries countries might do it but would backfire it would be putting Iran in a corner and they would attack than that’s really the only thing I can think of personally

 

[Immortals]

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[Eşbah]

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[BHAN85]

Even without motivation US is a powerhouse. And AIPAC and lobby is good at manufacturing and telling Americans who to hate and who their enemy is.

Motivation is necessary for ground invasion, and it's not necessary for nuclear strike.

I think the second is more likely than the first.

About common citizen opinions I think it doesnt matter at all.

 

[Starlord]

Motivation is necessary for ground invasion, and it's not necessary for nuclear strike.

I think the second is more likely than the first.

About common citizen opinions I think it doesnt matter at all.

I doubt any ground invasion will happen, but my whole point is that no matter how many people protest or soldiers write things like "Good goyim", truth is that Israel control Washington DC and almost the entire Western media/hollywood, they create and control narrative, Govt have state power like police, LEA's. We have seen how Police literally destroyed the anti-genocide protests in US universities and later billionaires used funding as weapon to bend the universities to their will, and later brag about it. US soldier will talk about not serving the Israeli interest but will follow orders and bomb XYZ country if his superior commands him to, so i don't take such stuff seriously.

 

[BigMela2onin]

US soldier will talk about not serving the Israeli interest but will follow orders and bomb XYZ country if his superior commands him to, so i don't take such stuff seriously.

Exactly, americans are so brain washed about "freedom of speech" they think just talking about something is a form of protest. Every single american except trump could be against the war and it wouldn't matter because at the end of the day americans will never actually do anything.

 

[retaxis]

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Using nukes would open the door on Russia using nukes in Eastern Europe and China/NK using nukes against Japan. America definitely don't want to go down that path

 

[RzA]

A little OT but after Russia and Ukraine, India has now made their own Shahed clone

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[ety]

Using nukes would open the door on Russia using nukes in Eastern Europe and China/NK using nukes against Japan. America definitely don't want to go down that path

One never knows what the mad man and dis cronies will do. I think the Pentagon has just proposed to US gov that US can and should use tactical nukes in conventional wars that the US can't win.