China, Pakistan oppose India’s bid for permanent seat at UNSC; supports ‘special case’ of Africa

[Raj-Hindustani]

Any country involved in a open conflict should be excluded for the moment, any country that poses a massive risk to segments of its own population or the surrounding states should also be excluded

India is all of those things

Speaking generally however, India with a population of 1.4 billion people should have representation

But then so should Pakistan with 250 million
Bangladesh with 200 million

The Muslim world needs representation with over 2 billion

Arabs need representation with multiple states and hundreds of millions

Africa needs representation with hundreds of millions etc


The list goes on
We need U.N reform, we need a end to the U.N security council in it's current form


All India wants to do is add to the current biased crap of the security council because it's has delusions of grandeur, it doesn't really care about U.N development etc

And India with it's hindutva delusions is dangerous for south Asia, so India's entry into the current system is INTOLERABLE and only change of the system to represent the world more effectively is acceptable and the big powers won't allow it

Again! You are saying it with a one-sided mind.

China follows all UNSC orders? or the USA?

Hindutva, or whatever you call it, does not matter to anyone. no one cares.

The reform of the UNSC, which has different criteria and ignores India - will be tough. There is a reason all the others—the USA, Russia, France, and the UK—support India for the seat and many non-permanent members.

Again, if China vetoes against India, - does not matter - it will prove the power of India.

Anyway

 

[hussain0216]

Again! You are saying it with a one-sided mind.

China follows all UNSC orders? or the USA?

Hindutva, or whatever you call it, does not matter to anyone. no one cares.

The reform of the UNSC, which has different criteria and ignores India - will be tough. There is a reason all the others—the USA, Russia, France, and the UK—support India for the seat and many non-permanent members.

Again, if China vetoes against India, - does not matter - it will prove the power of India.

Anyway

I agree they don't, BUT they became members in the 1940s, as did France, UK etc and

Do you think the U.N or the world would want or allow China to join today??? Of course not they would use multiple excuse

In 2024, India continues to have open conflict over Kashmir which is UNRESOLVED, India is increasingly hindutva extremist, authorisation and not trusted in south Asia

I repeat we need change in the U.N so their is better representation for the world

India just wants to be part of the big boys club because of its own delusions of grandeur, which are dangerous

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

I agree they don't, BUT they became members in the 1940s, as did France, UK etc and

Do you think the U.N or the world would want or allow China to join today??? Of course not they would use multiple excuse

In 2024, India continues to have open conflict over Kashmir which is UNRESOLVED, India is increasingly hindutva extremist, authorisation and not trusted in south Asia

I repeat we need change in the U.N so their is better representation for the world

India just wants to be part of the big boys club because of its own delusions of grandeur, which are dangerous

I will say the last time that - Hindutva things are limited to Pakistan only... It only suits Pakistani media., No one cares as much as whatever is happening to minorities in Pakistan or even India.... for the world - it does not matter at all....

If they don't care about Palestine now - do you believe anyone will care about India or Pakistan regarding minorities?

India just wants to be part of the big boys. India is a big boy now, it will be hard for you to accept it, but in the coming years, slowly you will do it.

If the big boy criteria is 50 years old, then India has already crossed 40 years.

I am not talking about development; we still have a long way to go. We are still a developing country, and it will take a few decades to develop.

 

[hussain0216]

I will say the last time that - Hindutva things are limited to Pakistan only... It only suits Pakistani media., No one cares as much as whatever is happening to minorities in Pakistan or even India.... for the world - it does not matter at all....

If they don't care about Palestine now - do you believe anyone will care about India or Pakistan regarding minorities?

India just wants to be part of the big boys. India is a big boy now, it will be hard for you to accept it, but in the coming years, slowly you will do it.

If the big boy criteria is 50 years old, then India has already crossed 40 years.

I am not talking about development; we still have a long way to go. We are still a developing country, and it will take a few decades to develop.

Now your just rambling,, with a open U.N recognised unresolved conflict in Kashmir as well as state and government that is connected to a religiously motivated state backed extremism India cannot be made up.og a club that risks south Asia

The U.N needs reform not a deluded India adding to the problems

South Asia supports China, and China will defend the interests of south Asia against Indian stupidity

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Now your just rambling,, with a open U.N recognised unresolved conflict in Kashmir as well as state and government that is connected to a religiously motivated state backed extremism India cannot be made up.og a club that risks south Asia

The U.N needs reform not a deluded India adding to the problems

South Asia supports China, and China will defend the interests of south Asia against Indian stupidity

Kashmir can not be solved because three parties are involved - Pakistan, china and India, all occupied the part of Jammu and Kashmir.

So the resolution is kind of dead horse... You beat as you can but will never run it.. and no one cares

It's known by the world that that's the reason most countries are supporting to india for the permanent seat in the UN

 

[100%_Guest]

there is nothing like G5, its the west vs China + crippled Russia

Even Crippple RU can bitch slap your 2012
sapaar power. Endians think the world revolve around Moody, hug but Putin demand RMB for oil.....

 

[ety]

Kashmir can not be solved because three parties are involved - Pakistan, china and India, all occupied the part of Jammu and Kashmir.

So the resolution is kind of dead horse... You beat as you can but will never run it.. and no one cares

It's known by the world that that's the reason most countries are supporting to india for the permanent seat in the UN

Get 2/3 of UN members votes then. PRC got the majority votes to UN in 1971.

 

[ety]

Can keep having the wet dream..

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[retaxis]

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China sacrificed 25million lives for seat UNSC.

India wasn't even a country then. What right does a country who did not fight or even exist in ww2 have a right at UNSC.

 

[ety]

China sacrificed 25million lives for seat UNSC.

India wasn't even a country then. What right does a country who did not fight or even exist in ww2 have a right at UNSC.

Indians like to forget that UNSC is based purely on raw military and political power. The permanent members of UNSC are major victors of WW II that made major contributions to winning the war. They think since China with the same huge population as India can be a permanent member of UNSC, so can India that is the biggest "democracy" country for the better. Lol.

 

[retaxis]

Indians like to forget that UNSC is based purely on raw military and political power. The permanent members of UNSC are major victors of WW II that made major contributions to winning the war. They think since China with the same huge population as India can be a permanent member of UNSC, so can India that is the biggest "democracy" country for the better. Lol.

India will be UNSC member when UNSC expands to 195 countries. Until then they can sit on the sidelines and complain while the world points and laughs.

 

[retaxis]

To be honest, France got a participation trophy for UNSC seat (ww2 victory contribution) simply because they were large colonial power and held great swathes of territory.

India doesn't even exist or participate so they can't even get a participation trophy let alone a real trophy.