hyperman
INT'L MOD
I don't think Turkey cares about joining the EU. They would never let Turkey in regardless, and certainly not without Turkey giving up Cyprus, which is not worth it.
Turkish Foreign Policy and Regional Geopolitics
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I don't think Turkey cares about joining the EU. They would never let Turkey in regardless, and certainly not without Turkey giving up Cyprus, which is not worth it.
Ravenman
Registered Member
What would be the benefits of joining the EU?
- You must obey their sanction-policy (against Russia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Cuba, Venezuela, Belarus etc)
- You must obey their budgetary rules (max 3% deficit of the BBP)
- You must obey their fiscale rules
- You must obey their LGBT-and genderpolicy in domestic politics
- You must obey their counterterrorism policy (Hamas are terrorists, but PKK are freedomfighters)
- You must obey the rules of the European courts
- You must recognize South-Cyprus and all the Greek claims in the Aegean
- You must obey their China-policy (rejecting Chinese investments)
- You must obey their Israel policy (condemning Palestinian resistance, acknowledging Israel's right of selfdefence etc)
What are the benefits?
- The Euro replacing the Lira
- Free trade and ervices with all EU-members
- Free travel to all EU-members (Schengen)
- Custom Union membership with all partners (Norway, Switserland etc)
In my opinion it is not worth. The only ones in Turky who will be happy, are the secular crypto-Greeks of of the Agean coast and the Kurdish orang-oetans from the east because they can travel without visa to work there and make vlogs for likes and subscribes.
- You must obey their sanction-policy (against Russia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Cuba, Venezuela, Belarus etc)
- You must obey their budgetary rules (max 3% deficit of the BBP)
- You must obey their fiscale rules
- You must obey their LGBT-and genderpolicy in domestic politics
- You must obey their counterterrorism policy (Hamas are terrorists, but PKK are freedomfighters)
- You must obey the rules of the European courts
- You must recognize South-Cyprus and all the Greek claims in the Aegean
- You must obey their China-policy (rejecting Chinese investments)
- You must obey their Israel policy (condemning Palestinian resistance, acknowledging Israel's right of selfdefence etc)
What are the benefits?
- The Euro replacing the Lira
- Free trade and ervices with all EU-members
- Free travel to all EU-members (Schengen)
- Custom Union membership with all partners (Norway, Switserland etc)
In my opinion it is not worth. The only ones in Turky who will be happy, are the secular crypto-Greeks of of the Agean coast and the Kurdish orang-oetans from the east because they can travel without visa to work there and make vlogs for likes and subscribes.
Watandar
Trusted Member
At least you know their intentions. The Israelis cannot help themselves and always talk openly about the next war they want to engage in. Their strategic goals for the next 20 years are to retard the Turkish MIC and economy, and Turkey will have to think about how to repel that in an intelligent manner.
hyperman
INT'L MOD
Greece's alliance with Israel is becoming a domestic liability
Athens sees Israel as an important partner, but the relationship is facing mounting anger over arms sales, high rents and Israel’s genocidal war on Gaza
www.middleeasteye.net
Something very peculiar is happening in Greece, the government is getting closer and closer to the zionist entity, but the general public is becoming more and more hateful of Israel, whether its the Zionist buying up property on Greek Islands or their genocide or their treatment of Greek Orthodox people in Palestine.
Mitsotakis really seems to have decided to become an evangelical or something, with his devotion to Israel. lol
Foinikas
Elite Member
First of all,I've told you numerous times,your repeation of "lol" at the end of every post is offensive. Yes,because it is perceived as mocking.Greece's alliance with Israel is becoming a domestic liability
Athens sees Israel as an important partner, but the relationship is facing mounting anger over arms sales, high rents and Israel’s genocidal war on Gaza
Something very peculiar is happening in Greece, the government is getting closer and closer to the zionist entity, but the general public is becoming more and more hateful of Israel, whether its the Zionist buying up property on Greek Islands or their genocide or their treatment of Greek Orthodox people in Palestine.
Mitsotakis really seems to have decided to become an evangelical or something, with his devotion to Israel. lol
Second,the ones who complain about defence purchases from Israel,are leftists. The left. The commies and the hippies. The same people who in Pakistan would advocate for better relations with Modi and the same people who in Turkey advocate and march for Kurdish and LGBT rights.
The high rents problem is completely irrelevant to Jews.
Mitsotakis doesn't have a devotion to Israel no more than pre-2010 Erdogan had.
hyperman
INT'L MOD
That doesn't exist. The Left in Pakistan is the PPP whose leader Bilawal Bhutto called Modi a Temu Trump.
Rent is not the issue with the Israeli settlements on the Islands and you know it.
A 2026 Pew Research poll found that 65 percent of Greeks opposed the partnership. Thats not all "Commies".
Fundamentally untrue, He refuses to say anything about Greek Orthodox People in Palestine and their church lands being taken or them being mistreated. Even the Patriarch Bartholomew said something.
Ecumenical Patriarchate Archons condemned Israeli attack on Palestinian Christian village | Orthodox Times (en)
On July 11, 2025, Anthony J. Limberakis, MD, National Commander of the Archons of the Ecumenical Patriarchate and Archon Grand Aktouarios, issued a statement in which he writes that the Archons of the Ecumenical Patriarchate “note with dismay and indignation the attack by Israeli settlers on the...
orthodoxtimes.com
But Mitsotakis said nothing, he love Zionism so much maybe he will become Evangelical. lol
Foinikas
Elite Member
What Israeli settlements on islands?
Pew Research can research whatever. You can have polls in Turkey "proving" nobody wants Erdogan. Unless you consider you know Greek society better than me?
The leftist political parties are the ones who nag about any weapons purchase from Israel. Heck,the more radical of them don't want ANY weapons purchase from anyone. They want to decrease defence spending.
And you know better than anyone what's going on with the Orthodox in Palestine? These are Church matters and the Church knows better what's going on.
"he love zionism so much maybe he come evangelical lol" what the **** kind of childish comment is that? You guys are just so desperate and angry to make dumb comments like that. First it was the French,Turkish gov and Turks online were going nuts about it "you can't have alliances out of NATO,you can't buy weapons from France,they're taking advantage of you",now you're going bananas over the Israelis.
I'll tell you what. Israelis have weapons available for us,that other countries wouldn't give(mainly Americans).The fact that we won't buy them is for budget limitations and whatever other reasons.
But like Dendias said this summer,when asked about the Israeli AA package we've ordered,he said we explored other solutions(implied American and European ones)and the cost was 3 times higher.
When the Israeli is giving you something of quality in 1/3 of the cost than an American or Brit or German or Franco-Italian would,well there's no question.
When the American bureucracy still makes it hard to procure stand-off weapons fast,
but the Israeli gives you Rampage easily,it's a no-brainer.
hyperman
INT'L MOD
I consider I know how to read polling data and public sentiment polls and articles written by Greeks.
Its an inconvenient element for you, but the polling is consistently showing that.
Also the Greek press reports like this
Israeli official suggests purchasing Greek islands as "haven for Jewish people"
A representative of Israel's Defense Minister "Kahol Lavan" party raised an initiative last week to purchase islands in Greece using money
www.keeptalkinggreece.com
I read reports of Greeks upset these people buying land whether in Cyprus or other islands. Recently they have been blamed for starting fires and then buying the burnt land afterwards.
In Albania nearby too, there have been protests.
You could have bought everything you buy from the Israelis from France, India, or South Korea or wherever and without Israeli backdoors and kill switch and spying, Mitsotakis and Dendias chose Israel, and now Israel ownes them, they can't say a word against Israel even when it is literally ethnically cleansing Orthodox people in Jerusalem. Can you imagine? Orthodox Christians being wiped out from Jerusalem? Thats never happened before, since the time of Jesus to the Early Church.
Motsotakis and Dendias say nothing, because Israel comes to them in their dream. They are going to bring him to Israel and make him do humiliation rituals like this the Evangelicals do. lol
Maybe put on a little hat and kiss the wall and swear fealty to serve Israel and the Zionist cause.
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Foinikas
Elite Member
You took a story that was overblown by media and has no actual value. That "purchase greek islands" story has been overblown by media and Turks found it convenient to start spreading nonsense online.I consider I know how to read polling data and public sentiment polls and articles written by Greeks.
Its an inconvenient element for you, but the polling is consistently showing that.
Also the Greek press reports like this
I read reports of Greeks upset these people buying land whether in Cyprus or other islands. Recently they have been blamed for starting fires and then buying the burnt land afterwards.Israeli official suggests purchasing Greek islands as "haven for Jewish people"
A representative of Israel's Defense Minister "Kahol Lavan" party raised an initiative last week to purchase islands in Greece using money
As for the fires,please don't go around with that bull. A lot of fires that started this year were from technical problems. Others were because of arson,but several of the people arrested were unstable in their heads or just negligent.
If anything,it's not that Jews are buying land/houses in Greece,it's that others are also doing it. Bulgarians,Skopjans,Ukros,Russians etc.
The protests in Albania are for another reason.
Again,I will tell you to stop drawing conclusions or believing whatever you find online.
There are struggles within the Church. Sometimes for example Arabs are being driven to get rid of the Greek Orthodox in Palestine and elsewhere,and create their own autonomous/autocephalous Churches.
A similar struggle exists with the Patriarchate of Moscow which has been antagonizing the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople. Do you know what they call Patriarch Batholomew? "Turkish agent". Certain Montenegrins want to split from the Serbian Orthodox Church. FYROM split from them decades ago,illegally. There's politics and there's issues that you're not aware of and you shouldn't go around blabbering.
Imagine if I start going about "oh oh your imam did this,but the Shia Ayatollah did that,but then egyptian grand imam is doing this to the saudi grand imam,because Iran did this".
hyperman
INT'L MOD
Oh Yeah they **** nuffin. lol, just like in Cyrpus and Argentina.
Bartholomew is Ieronymos's Daddy, ok? Put some Respect. Bartholomew speaks for the Greek Orthodox Church and Church of Greece answers to him.
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