Turkish Naval Programs

[Death_Zone]

Yes but the AUKUS fleet is going to grow

UK has a formidable sub surface force with the current Astute class

And incoming Dreadnaught class

How many Astute are on sea ? You have your answer. On paper it is a beautifull force, but in reality you are short. It's sad, really, even from a french point of view as we are strong ally and friends.

AUKUS ? We will have a lot of time to speak about AUKUS. My bet is that at the end Australia will have 8 second hand Virginia, none of them built in Australia.
Why ? cost, lack of specilized manpower, delay in nuclear reactor supply, etc...

 

[MMM-E]

TCG IZMIR ( F-516 ) The 2nd Frigate of ISTIF class will be delivered to the Turkish Navy in 2026

 

[hyperman]

But they have a SSN project in mind.
(And I hope France and Italy can work together on it).

I very much doubt the Italians will go for an SSN. #1 they have banned nuclear reactors from their country and have no nuclear experts because that capacity atrophied. #2 Italy does not have land like Islands far away and doesn't really have a role or ambition outside the Mediterranean and the codeveloped Subs with Germany do the job.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

How many Astute are on sea ? You have your answer. On paper it is a beautifull force, but in reality you are short. It's sad, really, even from a french point of view as we are strong ally and friends.

AUKUS ? We will have a lot of time to speak about AUKUS. My bet is that at the end Australia will have 8 second hand Virginia, none of them built in Australia.
Why ? cost, lack of specilized manpower, delay in nuclear reactor supply, etc...

Astute is 7000 tons, and Suffren is 5000 tons.

Both UK and France have relatively small sized SSN in small number.

The US is moving to the 10,000 tons Virginia Block V and the future SSN-X, Russia got the 13,000 tons Yasen, and China is also starting to mass produce the 12,000 tons Type 095A.

The future naval superpower needs those 10,000 tons class SSN in large number.