User Pakistan First said in other topic #155,309 :
" US already have destroyed Iran's nuclear program. Destroyed lot of other assets and important individuals. Damaged Iran's economy to a massive levels. But you are suggesting Iran will achieve a "massive" "military" victory ? Explain.
Iran if win, it will be a strategic victory by not losing and not giving in. Something in lines of which Vietnam did. Not letting US take whatever it wants. It will Not be a "military" victory. Militarily there is no comparison between two. Iran can win by making the war too costly for US and making it tired and so US leaves. Militarily winning means, Iran takes out US air power and US warships and carriers. The assets which can pound Iran day in and day out. Its not Iran's fault, Nobody can match US militarily except China. "
That's exacly "US Perspective"
and What he's talking about is an American zionist narrative—one that is evidently false, because if it were true, there would be no need to continue the "war" or the recent military actions. The only way Zionism can win is through its agents within Iran's military and political spheres (or by having these puppets stage a "color revolution"), because they have lost in actual combat, as shown below:
arguments:
1- The US did not destroy Iran's nuclear program; the US itself doesn't know what happened—to the point where the US and Israel are sending the UN nuclear agency to inspect the attacked sites to relay information about the results, since they have no clue what actually occurred. There were no radioactive leaks or chemical explosions that would indicate nuclear destruction. Today, Iran has a clandestine nuclear program because the UN cameras were turned off.
2- All American bases in the Middle East have been destroyed, with thousands of military personnel killed or wounded (the US and Zionist media hide this), and there are various videos, photos, and satellite images proving it. Nothing like this has been seen in any recent war; in the Vietnam War, over the course of 20 years, they didn't attack a *single* American base in Asia! There is a video of a helicopter leaving an American base in Jordan yesterday, September 1, 2026, carrying the bodies of military personnel.
3- Iranian airspace is not controlled by the US or Israel—that is an ancient piece of fake news that has long since been debunked—which is why Iran is always able to launch missiles and drones. US planes approach the border, launch cruise missiles, and then turn back. Whenever they tried to enter, they were shot down.
4- The Strait of Hormuz has been closed and is controlled by Iran (vessels passing through require Iranian authorization); Trump and CENTCOM have put out various fake news stories claiming the strait is open, but one only needs to look at satellite imagery to see the truth. 5- The global economy is broken after COVID, and following these current wars, it will be even more shattered. Trump and Zionism are
doctoring the reports, just as Bush did in 2004/2005—actions that triggered the 2008/2009 crisis. By the end of the "Trump administration," you will see a crisis
on par with those of 2008 and 1929.
6- Iran hasn't lost a single percentage of its territory; now, look at how NATO/US propaganda works:
#Ukraine has lost a third of its territory and has been under daily attack by Russia for five years—what is the cost of that? Five trillion dollars? Russia keeps advancing and conquering new territory,
even though Ukraine is being aided by 50 countries; yet, after all that, the media claims "Ukraine won."
#Iran (fighting alone) destroyed American bases and the highest number of US aircraft since Vietnam, without losing even 1% of its territory—
did IRAN LOSE?
NOTE: American militarism is weak—a fraud. The image of a strong USA is maintained through bribes and media manipulation so that corrupt figures, thugs, and criminals
in third-world nations can justify acting as US puppets; but what we are actually seeing is the exact opposite: the moment any military force puts up a fight,
the US military presence vanishes. The same goes for Israel: Hezbollah is essentially a "mall security" style militia, yet the Israeli army cannot prevail in combat, leaving them to resort to civilian massacres, ethnic cleansing, and the like. It’s an embarrassment; that’s why they don’t take on a country like North Korea—because if they did, it would be game over.
