Su 57 deal on the agenda for Modi Putin Meet

There are very few things we will be buying from the Russians from now on, and fighter jets is not one of them.

problem is maintaining 45+ sq and without long term Su-30 replacement planning achieving required strength will be difficult.

By 2040 IAF will have to virtually replace its entire present jets. Tejas, Rafael & AMCA might make upto 500+ and still it will short of 200+ jets i.e, Su-30 place will be vacant.

Drones will make up the number but not the balance.
 
Mit again this BS… and you should better instantly stop smoking that stuff it is not good to your brain!

400 Su-57 under licence in India until 2035 is so much off like the sun raising in the West!

They dont need any technology transfer for Tejas, still can't make em.
 
Modi should make a deal now for the Su 57. This is the right time. The Russians are very willing. Talking abt tech transder of even the S 500. We should start manufacruring in HAL's Nashik facility immediately. Target abt 400 Su 57 in the next 9 years until AMCA production begins.
I believe India should consider acquiring at least 72 Su-57s, but not simply as an off-the-shelf purchase. India should pursue a highly customised Indian variant, similar in philosophy to the Su-30MKI programme.

When the Su-30MKI was introduced around 2000, it became one of the most capable 4.5-generation fighters because India didn't simply buy a standard Russian aircraft—it incorporated Indian requirements and systems. The problem is that the Su-30MKI fleet subsequently did not receive upgrades at the pace necessary to maintain its technological edge.

The same mistake should not be repeated with the Su-57. If India acquires it, the objective should be an Indianised Su-57 incorporating the best feasible combination of Russian, Indian and selected Western technologies—particularly in avionics, AESA radar, electronic warfare, communications/data links, mission computers and weapons.

Such an aircraft could provide India with a significant fifth-generation capability while AMCA is being developed and inducted. It would also give the IAF valuable operational experience with stealth fighters, advanced sensors, networking and low-observable operations.

The Su-57 should therefore be viewed as a bridge, not a replacement for AMCA. A fleet of around 72 aircraft could provide that bridge while giving India time to develop AMCA properly and, potentially, participate in an international sixth-generation programme in the future.
 
I believe India should consider acquiring at least 72 Su-57s, but not simply as an off-the-shelf purchase. India should pursue a highly customised Indian variant, similar in philosophy to the Su-30MKI programme.

Right now, India does not really have the time for a "custom" variant to be developed and delivered. India, does not really have time for a TOT project with manufacturing in India given the poor state of the IAF. India needs to buy off the shelf as-is.

Time is not on your side right now.
 
problem is maintaining 45+ sq and without long term Su-30 replacement planning achieving required strength will be difficult.

By 2040 IAF will have to virtually replace its entire present jets. Tejas, Rafael & AMCA might make upto 500+ and still it will short of 200+ jets i.e, Su-30 place will be vacant.

Drones will make up the number but not the balance.
The answer for that will not be Russia. Russia was not delivering in time even before the Ukraine war. Now it will be worse.
 
Right now, India does not really have the time for a "custom" variant to be developed and delivered. India, does not really have time for a TOT project with manufacturing in India given the poor state of the IAF. India needs to buy off the shelf as-is.

Time is not on your side right now.
No, for custom- we can wait 2-3 years testing and than induction from 2028 etc..

Yeah - but now might 12 can directly be imported, and plan to upgrade later...for the time being...
 
with 270+ Su-30s waiting to be retired, starting between 2040-45, Su 57 is the only option available in the market. IAF can procure it in small batches and test it, upgrade it and build it locally with full ToT just like we done with Su-30s.
I think best approach for IAF will be to get as many Rafale as possible because they are damn good aircraft, and will be relevant even after 2040. With Rafale's in good numbers between IAF & IN, you can upgrade the Su30MKI to super sukhoi, keep 150+ or so even after that 2040 timeline, and add another 50-100 Su57's that will be a good size force consist of modern fighter jets, add in few sqs of Teja bhai here and there for low-mid size fighter and you will have a potent airforce, now I will not say that will be close enough for PLAAF that is now way way gone for IAF to tackle, but for PAF yes that will be a substential threat.
 

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