Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

What trap?
The soviets fell to a trap when they built the nuke in early 50s to counter the US?

Did China fall to a trap when they developed a nuke, when western propaganda had mao on same leve as isis? But nixo. Went there and normalized after they tested nukes?

Did the euro limp hands uk and france fall into a trap? Especially now that they are openly expanding it while their conventional military rots?

Did pakistan fall into a trap when they built nukes, and permenantly elimanated the existential threat of gettin overrun by an indian army 3 times larger?

Or did kim in north korea fall into a trqp.

The only trap anyone fell into was the dumb akhonds. Thinkign they were dealing with civilized countries and left the country so vulnerable militarirly while pursuing a geopolitical agenda of fighting the most powerful force on earth?

History will not be kind to khamenei

I would not at all be surprised if these worthless akhonds still havent learned their lesson. I would put more money on Iran re engaging with iaea and letting grossis mossad spies in before they go for a bomb.

I have zero faith left in akhonds
Don't get mad.

Trump might have said that just so Iran definitely goes ahead and builds it, allowing him to pull America out of the stupid war he’s dragged it into.

He knows the nuclear threshold has either already been crossed or is about to be.

Bombing Pickaxe now won't change much, because they’ve spent a whole year operating without any kind of oversight anywhere in the country... and the clock keeps ticking.
 
Have you considered the possibility that the US Navy eventually reduces its presence in the Middle East due to operation costs and exhaustion but other countries get emboldened enough, after South Korea's recent move, to replace some of the US assets in the region?
Fantastic; that will put South Korea in a "riding the tiger" situation and will definitely catch Kim Jong-un's attention.
 
What trap?
The soviets fell to a trap when they built the nuke in early 50s to counter the US?

Did China fall to a trap when they developed a nuke, when western propaganda had mao on same leve as isis? But nixo. Went there and normalized after they tested nukes?

Did the euro limp hands uk and france fall into a trap? Especially now that they are openly expanding it while their conventional military rots?

Did pakistan fall into a trap when they built nukes, and permenantly elimanated the existential threat of gettin overrun by an indian army 3 times larger?

Or did kim in north korea fall into a trqp.

The only trap anyone fell into was the dumb akhonds. Thinkign they were dealing with civilized countries and left the country so vulnerable militarirly while pursuing a geopolitical agenda of fighting the most powerful force on earth?

History will not be kind to khamenei

I would not at all be surprised if these worthless akhonds still havent learned their lesson. I would put more money on Iran re engaging with iaea and letting grossis mossad spies in before they go for a bomb.

I have zero faith left in akhonds
Good mentioning.

Yes, they all fell to trap. Soviet collapsed, China's big claims about Communist equality turned into a joke and even Chinese people complain that the idea of Communism was nothing but a lie and China was ideologically digested by capitalism.

Europe turned into USA's dog that is thrown under the bus when needed. Pakistan, India and NK also fell to that trap and still fail to build a formidable economy.

Why Iran shouldn't go that path requires vision and a visionary leader to avoid falling into trap.
 
Iran wouldnt hesitate to sink korean ships, it will be a suicide mission.
I wouldn't count on that. I thought the Emirates would never be the same after they dare to launch a war on Iran. Not only the US has continuously used the Emirati territory against Iran, but the Emirates itself has carried out multiple air strikes on Iran during the war.

And what happened? Iran is now cut off from the world's economy, cannot export a single drop of oil, while everything in Dubai is normal and tourism is back to normal as well. The Emirates is making a fortune from selling oil at higher prices.

Iran doesn't command respect like it did before the assassination of Soleimani, or even the assassination of our leader in Tehran.
 
Fantastic; that will put South Korea in a "riding the tiger" situation and will definitely catch Kim Jong-un's attention.
How many times do you guys want to use the same already disproven logic?

You also said China and Russia would help Iran to fight the US because of similar interests. Guess what? None of them has done anything for Iran so far. China even reduced her oil imports by 40% to 50%, stabilizing the oil market and preventing Iran from exerting pressure on the US and Europe by targeting the global economy.

Now you want to make a similar bet on North Korea? lol Who is truly a joke of a country. North Korea is no match for South Korea. And the moment they use their nukes on South Korea, nothing but a vague memory will remain of North Korea.

Unlike Russia and China, the West actually defends their allies against regional adversaries. Ukraine has received over $300 billion in aid, approaching $400 billion. On the other hand, China is actively helping the US stabilize the world economy against Iran's interests and Russia considers Israel an almost Russian country.
 
How many times do you guys want to use the same already disproven logic?

You also said China and Russia would help Iran to fight the US because of similar interests. Guess what? None of them has done anything for Iran so far. China even reduced her oil imports by 40% to 50%, stabilizing the oil market and preventing Iran from exerting pressure on the US and Europe by targeting the global economy.

Now you want to make a similar bet on North Korea? lol Who is truly a joke of a country. North Korea is no match for South Korea. And the moment they use their nukes on South Korea, nothing but a vague memory will remain of North Korea.

Unlike Russia and China, the West actually defends their allies against regional adversaries. Ukraine has received over $300 billion in aid, approaching $400 billion. On the other hand, China is actively helping the US stabilize the world economy against Iran's interests and Russia considers Israel an almost Russian country.
Come on, Shapurll, you know that’s not true.

Just because China isn't buying oil by the boatload doesn't mean it doesn't support Iran. China needs cheap oil and will act accordingly.

Let's take it a step further. Who provided the coordinates that allowed the IRGC to issue a warning to the aircraft carrier strike group?

How was Iran able to launch 30 solid-fuel, intermediate-range missiles 72 hours ago without logistical support regarding fuel or fuel-mixing technology?

Who could have provided the information on where US troops were hiding in Jordan? Just because China or Russia might not offer tangential support on certain issues doesn't mean Iran is fighting alone.

By the way, North Korea doesn't need to bomb Seoul to support Iran. Such support can be far more subtle—for instance, providing the technology to turn enriched uranium into metal.
 
Pakistan, India and NK also fell to that trap and still fail to build a formidable economy.
these foolish countries achieved nuclear weapons and security but did not build a formidable economy

they wish they could be Iran, who did not achieve nuclear weapons or security or a formidable economy either ?
 


@Immortals do you still expect major U.S. strikes in Tehran and Esfahan in the next 24-48 hours?


I do expect major U.S. strikes this week, maybe not Tehran, but more cities other than just coastal regions. The longer it takes, the larger amount of targets it will be as they are getting strike packages built.
 
I do expect major U.S. strikes this week, maybe not Tehran, but more cities other than just coastal regions. The longer it takes, the larger amount of targets it will be as they are getting strike packages built.
what made you change your mind about major strikes in Tehran?
 

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