Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

what made you change your mind about major strikes in Tehran?

Oil at $104-105 and Houthi’s advancement and near full control of Bab Al-Mandeb.

Striking the capital right now may be too risky for Trump, like MBS striking Sanaa. So he might decide that Pickaxe Mountain is more attractive for his propaganda story. We already have mainstream media feeding the narrative it’s doing “covert” nuclear work.

What do you think Iranian response would be in attack on Pickaxe mountain?

 

[Immortals]

 

[Ali_Baba]

Maybe the market has finally stopped listening or trusting Trump's daily BS of the war is won, and all is well and now has decided to price in the real risks, and real lack of supply?

Have the markets finally lost their patience with Trump ?

We should know if the price momentum stays at this level or continues to rise, etc. I think it is too early to call it yet.

 

[Master Chief]

Watch it crash again when Trump opens his mouth and mentions "talks"..

 

[Shags202]

Watch it crash again when Trump opens his mouth and mentions "talks"..

I think it’s past that point I think a lot of this has to do with Yemen and the thrashing their giving everyone there

 

[Immortals]

Iran now has de facto control over the Red Sea courtesy of the warriors of Yemen.

Some IRGC generals could learn a thing or two from Houthi commanders instead of running their mouth on the news everyday.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

if oil price remains above 100$(and higher yields on short term debts!) for a while, US will need to open new war fronts!

why?!

because, it needs more dollars. As it sits far beyond the reach of enemies and has one of the largest oil reserves and can control Venezuela, so more dollars will flow towards it!

so, this talk of high and rising oil prices, would benefit USA and would not make it weak.

Because, if war ensues the large parts of the trading routes, more capital would shift towards USA (prolonging useful life of its debt!).

Further, to open new fronts, USA has many choices. Because not only it can control countries, it has also control over many guerilla factions and religious groups!

in other words, the next incoming conflict would favor US and its allies more!

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

Watch it crash again when Trump opens his mouth and mentions "talks"..

I would not be surprised if some media leak fake “talks”.

 

[Master Chief]

if oil price remains above 100$ for a while, US will need to open new war fronts!
(and higher yields on short term debts!)
why?!

because, it needs more dollars. As it sits far beyond the reach of enemies and has one of the largest oil reserves and can control Venezuela, so more dollars will flow towards it!

so, this talk of high and rising oil prices, would benefit USA and would not make it weak.

Because, it was ensues large parts of the trading routes, more capital would shift towards USA (prolonging useful life of its debt!).

Further, to open new fronts, USA has many choices. Because, not only it can control countries, it has also controls over many guerilla factions and religious groups!

in other words, the next incoming conflict would favor US and its allies more!

Long term I would agree. But that shift in oil markets won't be the case for at least a decade.

USA still needs an off ramp from this one. Trump has miscalculated the resolve of his opponents. Or rather, Trump knows he's stuck but his bosses in Tel Aviv won't let him off the hook.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Long term I would agree. But that shift in oil markets won't be the case for at least a decade.

USA still needs an off ramp from this one. Trump has miscalculated the resolve of his opponents. Or rather, Trump knows he's stuck but his bosses in Tel Aviv won't let him off the hook.

I agree, but who pays the price.

it is countries like us and the rest of the second and third world countries!

I mean, would this 'defeat' lead to a dollar collapse?

no, had that been the case, zios would have abondoned the USA!

so, if it is not making USA weak, then, what it is it doing to it?


it is only changing the flow of dollars and is giving more control to the USA!

Trump has said, there are no more belligerents in the Middle East other than IR and the IR will lose!

now, the question is if there are no belligerents, then, who are the 'others'??


I tell you, who are the 'others'!



the tacit supporters of the zio hedgemony

that was the objective of this war!

 

[Immortals]

 

[KAL-EL]

It is not that straightforward. Presumably, a radar shield still exists. Tel Aviv undoubtedly retains substantial interceptors BUT also the most potent offensive forces in the region to immediately counterattack.

So why would Iran fire salvos that are (a) STILL likely to get intercepted and (b) likely to provoke a devastating counterattack?

Iran seems to be playing as well as it possibly can for now. It's making the cost of defending Israel unbearable for other nations but yhe trade off is that the problem of besiegement remains for Iran - their economy is shot to pieces. I suspect Iran will only target Israel directly if they really are at the end of the line.

The Houthis are a different matter - they are mad enough to do as they please any day of any week.

An interesting take on that.. but if Iran launched hundreds of missiles, no way would Israeli interceptors would be able to get all of them.

The Iranians could inflict a lot of damage on tel Aviv. Of course the Israelis would straight back fiercely

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I would not be surprised if some media leak fake “talks”.

The US media is particularly known for leaking and when necessary, leaking false information from "anonymous" sources. Which is code for they themselves made it up.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Oil at $104-105 and Houthi’s advancement and near full control of Bab Al-Mandeb.

Striking the capital right now may be too risky for Trump, like MBS striking Sanaa. So he might decide that Pickaxe Mountain is more attractive for his propaganda story. We already have mainstream media feeding the narrative it’s doing “covert” nuclear work.

What do you think Iranian response would be in attack on Pickaxe mountain?

Iran's response would likely be more of the same: a larger missile salvo against US bases in Jordan and maybe other countries (Kuwait and Bahrain - those that don't have back door dealings with Iran).

The facility is not operational yet anyway, and it is not clear that the US could even destroy it permanently.

Anyway, momentum has shifted slightly and Trump is under greater pressure thanks to Yemen. But Iran should not get complacent, and must continue to put more pressure on with unexpected tactics and moves (using cheap cluster munitions in Jordan was a good example of this, damaged a large number of jets and depleted a large number of interceptors).