Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[kobra]

If Iran succeeds in gathering Arab kinglets together and signs agreement with them while throwing USA into the dustbin of history, it will be the biggest political victory for Iran in the last 5 decades.

Never. These kinglets whatever their sect is, are true zionists in their heart appointed and molded by their masters..

They will happily lead their kingdoms to complete destruction rather than getting rid of influence of their masters. Wealth of these monarch familes are safe with their masters in EU/US. Yankees however dont give two cents about them. They are milking cows in fact.

 

[MNZGamerX]

 

[FIsa]

Never. These kinglets whatever their sect is, are true zionists in their heart appointed and molded by their masters..

They will happily lead their kingdoms to complete destruction rather than getting rid of influence of their masters. Wealth of these monarch familes are safe with their masters in EU/US. Yankees however dont give two cents about them. They are milking cows in fact.

I think people calling Arab Kings zionists is getting quite boring.

Yes they may have been Zionists. But now zionists are weak so why should they remain zionists. GCC are very pragmatic whilst IRGC are dogmatic.

Its as simple as this:
Zionists are weak = GCC are not zionists anymore

Besides, the main reason Palestinian statehood is still possible is due to Zionists thinking all the Money they could make from Saudi Joining Abraham Accords. Saudi resisted that quite well by tying it in to Palestinian state... and now the Accords are dead thanks to Saudi, Pak and Turkey.

The way i see it , Zionists are not important anymore because America is less important now

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Would Iran still not get it ? Does iranian military command have goat brains in their head instead of human ones ?

to get the answer, you need to understand (not just look!) the causalities figure on both sides.


engineering, is the solution not the bomb itself!

 

[RocketLaw]

Saudi prince Mohammed bin Salman called US President Trump twice yesterday and urged him to launch strikes against Yemen's Ansarullah, Axios reports

Trump rejected the request, and US officials say the administration does not plan to take direct military action against Ansarullah.

After the US-Iran war, Iran now controls the Strait of Hormuz, while Ansarullah is taking control of the Bab al-Mandeb Strait. Together, Iran and Ansarullah now have influence over two major shipping routes in the region.



What does it mean for the people of Yemen to control their own coasts, islands, and the Bab al-Mandab Strait? Here are some of the key points:

- It means that Israel no longer controls it.
- It means Israel will think a thousand times before committing another crime in Gaza.
- It means its project to dominate the Middle East has failed.
- It means its hegemony over the Red Sea has come to an end.
- It means that all the countries in the region are now closer to peace.
- It means that all the children and women in the region are now closer to having a dignified life.
- It means that another Epstein-style project taking place here is no longer a possibility.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Saudi prince Mohammed bin Salman called US President Trump twice yesterday and urged him to launch strikes against Yemen's Ansarullah, Axios reports

Trump rejected the request, and US officials say the administration does not plan to take direct military action against Ansarullah.

After the US-Iran war, Iran now controls the Strait of Hormuz, while Ansarullah is taking control of the Bab al-Mandeb Strait. Together, Iran and Ansarullah now have influence over two major shipping routes in the region.



What does it mean for the people of Yemen to control their own coasts, islands, and the Bab al-Mandab Strait? Here are some of the key points:

- It means that Israel no longer controls it.
- It means Israel will think a thousand times before committing another crime in Gaza.
- It means its project to dominate the Middle East has failed.
- It means its hegemony over the Red Sea has come to an end.
- It means that all the countries in the region are now closer to peace.
- It means that all the children and women in the region are now closer to having a dignified life.
- It means that another Epstein-style project taking place here is no longer a possibility.

it does not need to, now, USA can ask squeeze more dollars out of these Arabs states and yields on US debt will rise at a decreasing rate!

if this fails, then another civil war will break out, then the next, then the next...


thats how USA rules the world!

 

[RealNapster]

to get the answer, you need to understand (not just look!) the causalities figure on both sides.


engineering, is the solution not the bomb itself!

The engineering doesn't stop others from attacking you, the bomb does.

 

[brazensword]

this is exciting

Exciting?

People are dying out there, I don't think I would use the word excited to describe it.

 

[muhammed45]

I'm not so sure, the GCC puppets already said any agreement will be temporary. It seems they want to save Trumps midterm election by bringing down the oil price, something the reformist gang also wants, else they would schedule the meeting post midterm elections.

They will be beaten until they accept Iranian domination and refuse US domination.

 

[Pakistan First]

lol we are afraid of pak we dont afraid of suoer power like usa what the hell about pak and turky .pak have more than 100 billion shias and even zeynabion

Ofcourse you should not be afraid of super power.

It has its 97% military too far from Iran. It will take 100s of billions of dollars even to move that military and do deployments. and where on earth they will deploy?

Your neighbor on other hand has its entire military and its entire weapon systems at your next border. I am not saying anybody have to be afraid of anyone. But just saying super-power cannot project its entire power on your borders, while neighbors even not a super-power can project their 100% power at your borders.

But in the end, Turkey, Iran and Pakistan have basic sense to not entagled into any military conflict. That's the reason none of countries have joined US war over Iran despite US putting all type of pressure & incentives to join.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Kudos to the Iranians for destroying more US aircraft in Jordan. And go make a Irani sea drone by reverse engineering that captured sea drone. But make sure they didn't left it on purpose with spy equipments in it.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

The engineering doesn't stop others from attacking you, the bomb does.

Sometimes, talking to Pakistanis makes you feel like the poor guys have completely lost their minds after being locked away in a vacuum for so long. The gentleman, here is saying that there is no need for technology, as bomb would guarantee deterrence!


really, is that so? why did'nt it happen in Ukraine?!


If you had the technology, then the next “trade” that Oppenheimer taught you would not even exist—because you yourselves would have become Oppenheimers, at a fraction of the cost!
(first bomb was produced at a staggering cost of one trillion dollars in early 40s!). By becoming Oppenheimer of today, one could reverse that equation, and produce the same bomb in only 100 million dollars, today!

so, not only one has the bomb, they have the cost and tech. advantage today as well!

so, it is not a question of having a bomb, it is a question of producing technology at a fraction of cost!

likewise, trade of heavier IR causalities for lesser causalities on the opponent side, goes to show that!


IR are willing to let go heavy causalities bec. they feel they have not lost the upper hand in a production rate (due to tech. advancements!) in other areas.

Further, cheap advancement, would automatically ensure many bombs, not just one!


unlike, what happens in Pakistan (a badly managed country!)

 

[RealNapster]

Sometimes, talking to Pakistanis makes you feel like the poor guys have completely lost their minds after being locked away in a vacuum for so long. The gentleman, here is saying that there is no need for technology, as bomb would guarantee deterrence!


really, is that so? why did'nt it happen in Ukraine?!


If you had the technology, then the next “trade” that Oppenheimer taught you would not even exist—because you yourselves would have become Oppenheimers, at a fraction of the cost!


so, it is not a question of having a bomb, it is a question of producing technology at a fraction of cost!

likewise, trade of heavier IR causalities for lesser causalities on the opponent side, goes to show that!


IR are willing to let go heavy causalities bec. they feel they have not lost the upper hand in a production rate (due to tech. advancements!) in other areas.

Further, cheap advancement, would automatically ensure many bombs, not just one!


unlike, what happens in Pakistan (a badly managed country!)

You are really something.

Did you hear trump saying IF IRAN HAS THE BOMB HE WOULD BE CRAWLING TOWARDS SUPREME LEADER ?

or did he say if iran had the technology ? And having technology means nothing as it still need atleast a year to make one. Take example of Japan. It have the technology. But not the bomb. And if it decide to make one, as per Chinese sources it will take them 1 year. You bet Iran can do it in less ?

Tell me again what reason US and Israel is providing for Iran ? Is it that they have bomb or they have the technology and capability to make one ?

Idiot here are not Pakistanis. It is you. And NO Ukraine do not have the bomb because it returned them 20+ years ago.

Mighty Dragon With Smally Brain

 

[PakistanLVR]

I think people calling Arab Kings zionists is getting quite boring.

Yes they may have been Zionists. But now zionists are weak so why should they remain zionists. GCC are very pragmatic whilst IRGC are dogmatic.

Its as simple as this:
Zionists are weak = GCC are not zionists anymore

Besides, the main reason Palestinian statehood is still possible is due to Zionists thinking all the Money they could make from Saudi Joining Abraham Accords. Saudi resisted that quite well by tying it in to Palestinian state... and now the Accords are dead thanks to Saudi, Pak and Turkey.

The way i see it , Zionists are not important anymore because America is less important now

“They may have been Zionist but now Zionists are weak so why should they remain Zionists?”

You really don’t have any clue do you? Are you by chance one of those Pakistanis who lives in the gulf thereby is more Catholic than the pope?

We all sat here and observed and wondered why didn’t Ay-rabs stop the mass murders in Gaza.

We’re pushing the “Abrahamic accords” from the Saudis to the UAE and trying to coerce Pakistan into it.

I don’t think they’re less since all of their wealth is dependent on the petrol-dollars why mess with it? Even Trump said it in the past that these Ay-rabs won’t survive two weeks without the U.S. protection?

Even today, the cuck prince begged for intervention twice in Yemen. They have one of the largest defense budgets on the planet but calling the White man to come save their bacon. Wonder how Ay-rab women feel about their men that can’t fight and need to depend on non-Arabs to come fight for them? A woman loves power and men who can defend her. The second she sees her own man can’t defend her, she’s going to seek another man’s bed. My apology for the vulgar analogy but fits these GCC cats well.

Ofcourse you should not be afraid of super power.

It has its 97% military too far from Iran. It will take 100s of billions of dollars even to move that military and do deployments. and where on earth they will deploy?

Your neighbor on other hand has its entire military and its entire weapon systems at your next border. I am not saying anybody have to be afraid of anyone. But just saying super-power cannot project its entire power on your borders, while neighbors even not a super-power can project their 100% power at your borders.

But in the end, Turkey, Iran and Pakistan have basic sense to not entagled into any military conflict. That's the reason none of countries have joined US war over Iran despite US putting all type of pressure & incentives to join.

you have no clue wtf you’re talking about. The U.S. and Israelis had a heavy footprint in the Gulf and around Iran. Objectively more firepower than all of Pakistan military put together and you think they need to bring their actual military to bear (costing 100s of billions of dollars deployment?).

What will Pakistan do? Redeploy their armor forces, infantry divisions, and Air Force order of battle in Baluchistan thereby leaving their eastern flank open to the Indians to capture Gilgit-Baltistan and Azad Kashmir? Not to mention coming war waters between us and the J33ts subhumans.

I recall these Arabs telling Pakistan to stand down when the j33tz attacked our mosques and people in the middle of the night. They told us they didn’t want us becoming another Gaza - gaslighting us not to escalate.

Jeez I wonder if they care about Pakistan’s interests as much as their own shaky thrones.

Nothing is more insufferable than a Pakistani simping for the Muslim - sorry Wahhabi Zionists.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

You are really something.

Did you hear trump saying IF IRAN HAS THE BOMB HE WOULD BE CRAWLING TOWARDS SUPREME LEADER ?

or did he say if iran had the technology ? And having technology means nothing as it still need atleast a year to make one. Take example of Japan. It have the technology. But not the bomb. And if it decide to make one, as per Chinese sources it will take them 1 year. You bet Iran can do it in less ?

Tell me again what reason US and Israel is providing for Iran ? Is it that they have bomb or they have the technology and capability to make one ?

Idiot here are not Pakistanis. It is you. And NO Ukraine do not have the bomb because it returned them 20+ years ago.

Mighty Dragon With Smally Brain

Further, case of Japan is an interesting one!

it was the only country bec. of which we know the existence of such a bomb!


for a person like you, let me put it very simple words!


this equation of 1 trillions dollars for a one bomb, we got to know this bec. of what happened to Japan (in other words, until then no body knew what had happened and how important was the tech. in one particular sector!)

** this equation of 1 trillion dollar for a single bomb, is actually interesting one. Because in those days, sum of 1 trillion dollars would be equal to almost half of the US debt today, if we taken into account Year on Year inflation. This, BTW includes, economic growth causes by this tech. (not the bomb!). GPT shows, 1 trillion dollars today is 18,5 trillion dollars which is half the US debt today!

in the case of IR, this does not apply, bec. it already knows the consequences of not having the cheap tech. for a bomb (which is a even bigger deterrence!)

Japan was already being bombed daily by the US, bec. it knew, no one has that tech!