Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[FIsa]

I said it before and will say it again.. When Pakistan gets involved seriously to either warn the US or warn Iran.... things come together... and we will see another serious round of discussions. Whilst its far from gteed to succeed , it will be the next iteration of new regional framework. The framework has 3 key pillars

a) Makkah Accord replacing US protection
b) Strait of Hormuz Mechanism (The solution i pasted earlier remains the most elegant)
c) Minimal US presence whilst no Iranian Nukes

 

[kobra]

If Iran succeeds in gathering Arab kinglets together and signs agreement with them while throwing USA into the dustbin of history, it will be the biggest political victory for Iran in the last 5 decades.

Never. These kinglets whatever their sect is, are true zionists in their heart appointed and molded by their masters..

They will happily lead their kingdoms to complete destruction rather than getting rid of influence of their masters. Wealth of these monarch familes are safe with their masters in EU/US. Yankees however dont give two cents about them. They are milking cows in fact.

 

[MNZGamerX]

 

[FIsa]

Never. These kinglets whatever their sect is, are true zionists in their heart appointed and molded by their masters..

They will happily lead their kingdoms to complete destruction rather than getting rid of influence of their masters. Wealth of these monarch familes are safe with their masters in EU/US. Yankees however dont give two cents about them. They are milking cows in fact.

I think people calling Arab Kings zionists is getting quite boring.

Yes they may have been Zionists. But now zionists are weak so why should they remain zionists. GCC are very pragmatic whilst IRGC are dogmatic.

Its as simple as this:
Zionists are weak = GCC are not zionists anymore

Besides, the main reason Palestinian statehood is still possible is due to Zionists thinking all the Money they could make from Saudi Joining Abraham Accords. Saudi resisted that quite well by tying it in to Palestinian state... and now the Accords are dead thanks to Saudi, Pak and Turkey.

The way i see it , Zionists are not important anymore because America is less important now

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Would Iran still not get it ? Does iranian military command have goat brains in their head instead of human ones ?

to get the answer, you need to understand (not just look!) the causalities figure on both sides.


engineering, is the solution not the bomb itself!

 

[RocketLaw]

Saudi prince Mohammed bin Salman called US President Trump twice yesterday and urged him to launch strikes against Yemen's Ansarullah, Axios reports

Trump rejected the request, and US officials say the administration does not plan to take direct military action against Ansarullah.

After the US-Iran war, Iran now controls the Strait of Hormuz, while Ansarullah is taking control of the Bab al-Mandeb Strait. Together, Iran and Ansarullah now have influence over two major shipping routes in the region.



What does it mean for the people of Yemen to control their own coasts, islands, and the Bab al-Mandab Strait? Here are some of the key points:

- It means that Israel no longer controls it.
- It means Israel will think a thousand times before committing another crime in Gaza.
- It means its project to dominate the Middle East has failed.
- It means its hegemony over the Red Sea has come to an end.
- It means that all the countries in the region are now closer to peace.
- It means that all the children and women in the region are now closer to having a dignified life.
- It means that another Epstein-style project taking place here is no longer a possibility.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Saudi prince Mohammed bin Salman called US President Trump twice yesterday and urged him to launch strikes against Yemen's Ansarullah, Axios reports

Trump rejected the request, and US officials say the administration does not plan to take direct military action against Ansarullah.

After the US-Iran war, Iran now controls the Strait of Hormuz, while Ansarullah is taking control of the Bab al-Mandeb Strait. Together, Iran and Ansarullah now have influence over two major shipping routes in the region.



What does it mean for the people of Yemen to control their own coasts, islands, and the Bab al-Mandab Strait? Here are some of the key points:

- It means that Israel no longer controls it.
- It means Israel will think a thousand times before committing another crime in Gaza.
- It means its project to dominate the Middle East has failed.
- It means its hegemony over the Red Sea has come to an end.
- It means that all the countries in the region are now closer to peace.
- It means that all the children and women in the region are now closer to having a dignified life.
- It means that another Epstein-style project taking place here is no longer a possibility.

it does not need to, now, USA can ask squeeze more dollars out of these Arabs states and yields on US debt will rise at a decreasing rate!

if this fails, then another civil war will break out, then the next, then the next...


thats how USA rules the world!

 

[RealNapster]

to get the answer, you need to understand (not just look!) the causalities figure on both sides.


engineering, is the solution not the bomb itself!

The engineering doesn't stop others from attacking you, the bomb does.

 

[brazensword]

this is exciting

Exciting?

People are dying out there, I don't think I would use the word excited to describe it.

 

[RocketLaw]

BREAKING: Saudi Crown Prince MBS called Trump twice on Thursday strongly urging him to launch US strikes on the Houthis as they closed in on the Bab el-Mandeb Strait and seized more than 3,000 sq. km, per two US officials.

Trump refused.

The request is a sharp reversal from July, when MBS told Trump Saudi Arabia could handle the Houthis on its own. US officials have told their Saudi counterparts that Trump will not give that support and that the directive is to keep American forces focused on Iran and the Strait of Hormuz and avoid opening another front.

MBS made his bet in February, hosting the US air armada at Prince Sultan Air Base that opened the war, and took the Iranian retaliation on Saudi soil that followed, repeated missile and drone strikes on the base that killed a US soldier and destroyed an E-3 AWACS, and strikes on Saudi refineries. The Houthi advance on Bab el-Mandeb and Thursday's hit on the East-West pipeline are that war's downstream effect, and they are landing on Saudi Arabia alone.

Behind the directive is also capacity, with the Pentagon's own commanders having filed formal objections to extending the Iran war, calling it unsustainable, and US officials saying Patriot and long-range missile stockpiles are catastrophically low, leaving nothing spare to defend Saudi oil infrastructure from the retaliation a Houthi campaign would bring. A Houthi front would draw on the same magazines already being emptied over Jordan and the Gulf.

 

[ashkankhorasaninezhad]

lol we are afraid of pak we dont afraid of suoer power like usa what the hell about pak and turky .pak have more than 100 billion shias and even zeynabion

 

[muhammed45]

I'm not so sure, the GCC puppets already said any agreement will be temporary. It seems they want to save Trumps midterm election by bringing down the oil price, something the reformist gang also wants, else they would schedule the meeting post midterm elections.

They will be beaten until they accept Iranian domination and refuse US domination.

 

[RocketLaw]

1934 - Saudi vs Yemen war (old war history)



Saudi Arabia fought a war against the Mutawakkilite Kingdom of Yemen in 1934 and achieved a decisive victory.

The reason for the war was border disputes, and the Saudis, under the command of Saud and Faisal, sons of Abdulaziz, fought against the forces of Imam Yahya and advanced within 3 months to near Sana'a.

With the Taif Peace Treaty, Saudi Arabia took Najran, Asir, and Jizan from Yemen.




Houthis are Arabs too