Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[r3alist]

Plus its a defensive pact, Saudi went on the offensive by attacking houthis airport first starting the war.

Just like NATO is not involved in US/Israel war on Iran because it was an offensive action.

I think the pact only comes to play and is tested if a country comes under random attacks by neighbours which will most likely be India attacking Pakistan again so that Modi can brag about winning all these wars and being a big war hero leader.

Well they created their own myths around it and then used the same to bring it down in propoganda


If anything now is the time to inform partners on the negative propoganda sources as you may have their ear more.

 

[RocketLaw]

This pact takes A LOT of time, processes and trainings - this is not overnight.

It will likely become mature after 10+ years.

Just look at BRIC, SCO, NATO, for examples - they are taking a long time to achieve full systems.

The US-Saudi relationship has been a very long time over 80+ years, Saudi still calls on the US for some assistance against Yemen. NOT THIS PACT.

 

[ustaad]

You left out "net security provider", "regional military architecture" and "Muslim NATO" in your fancy word salad.

And Saudi has asked for help. MBS called Trump twice yesterday but he said no. Pakistan and Turkiye said no afterwards as well. So much for replacing the USA.

Makkah pact is only a defensive pact. Since KSA started the war against Yemen therefore this pact doesn't apply there. Same as NATO

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Makkah pact is only a defensive pact. Since KSA started the war against Yemen therefore this pact doesn't apply there. Same as NATO

movement of Houthi militia in a broad daylight, across the mountains... was mind boggling!


KSA bombed them for years but did not do so, when it really mattered!

please dont tell me, KSA was not aware of any such movement before hand.


KSA, did not need any US approval to bomb Houthis before, why does it need to call Trump now?!

 

[hyperman]

The bin Salman al Sauds have been far more closely aligned with the French, British, US, German, Italians, Israeli than Erdogan. In fact, after the Khashoggi episode, Erdogan was actively trying to undermine MBS and was only forced to reverse course because of the economic crisis . And NATO standard weapons from these countries have long been easily available to the al Sauds and generally have superior track records and quality compared to what Turkiye can offer.

Saudis are trying to diversify away and move towards a codevelopment model.

Pakistan's nuclear weapons are meant only for India

The Saudi matter definitely includes the Nuclear matter.

 

[mythbuster]

If you look deeper Into this fiasco a conspiracy theory starts to emerge ( at least in my mind) ... it's like this ! Ok houthis takeover Yemen , behave like a normal state and cut off your ties with Iran...

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@mythbuster

Blum Pai,

You have been proved right often before. I wouldn't rule it out.

Regards

 

[Owaiz]

The Saudi matter definitely includes the Nuclear matter.

I don't understand what that diplomatic non-speak means, but Pakistan's nukes will not be used against Yemen or Iran on behalf of the al Sauds. That is a redline no ruling general will cross, no matter how compromised he is.

 

[mythbuster]

@mythbuster

Blum Pai,

You have been proved right often before. I wouldn't rule it out.

Regards

Actually, Iran and Saudi Arabia are glorified pawns dressed up as knights.... Turkey , Pakistan, USA and Israel are the ones who are true masterminds and running the show .

 

[GoatsMilk]

Makkah pact is only a defensive pact. Since KSA started the war against Yemen therefore this pact doesn't apply there. Same as NATO

This map was published in the American Armed Forces Journal in June 2006

The kurd/pkk project is the obvious one, but zionism understands to support the weaker and smaller against the bigger nation. So Yemen gaining lands at the expense of Saudi seems to have been something they thought about.

So i really hope Turkish and Pakistani intelligence understands what may potentially be transpiring here.

Houthis may be an enemy of Isreal, but they may also potentially be useful idiots for the zionist regional agenda. Its interesting that despite all that air power from the USA/Isreal that very little has ever been used on the Houthis. Basically in the last few decades we've only had a few token air strikes which i think is to keep the illusion alive.

Either way wise minds must assess the situation correctly.

The Mecca pact has the potential to be the only serious alliance that in the future could curtail the anglo-american zionist coalition in the region. There would be no greater success for the zionists then to see it fail.

 

[retaxis]

This map was published in the American Armed Forces Journal in June 2006

The kurd/pkk project is the obvious one, but zionism understands to support the weaker and smaller against the bigger nation. So Yemen gaining lands at the expense of Saudi seems to have been something they thought about.

So i really hope Turkish and Pakistani intelligence understands what may potentially be transpiring here.

Houthis may be an enemy of Isreal, but they may also potentially be useful idiots for the zionist regional agenda. Its interesting that despite all that air power from the USA/Isreal that very little has ever been used on the Houthis. Basically in the last few decades we've only had a few token air strikes which i think is to keep the illusion alive.

Either way wise minds must assess the situation correctly.

The Mecca pact has the potential to be the only serious alliance that in the future could curtail the anglo-american zionist coalition in the region. There would be no greater success for the zionists then to see it fail.

Looks like they just want to balkanise the larger countries in the middle east along ethnic lines.

No doubt they want to balkanise Turkey and Iran sooner than later as well.

This will give Israel more room to maneuver and capture more lands as the rest of middle east goes up in flames.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

interesting, interviewer reveals at lower ranks, majority of the KSA army is Pakistani!
(start from the point, where they discuss Yemen)

 

[hyperman]

I don't understand what that diplomatic non-speak means, but Pakistan's nukes will not be used against Yemen or Iran on behalf of the al Sauds. That is a redline no ruling general will cross, no matter how compromised he is.

Pakistan will nuke Israel if it needs to though as part of the Saudi bilateral deal.

 

[Watandar]

Pakistan will nuke Israel if it needs to though as part of the Saudi bilateral deal.

No it will not. The property, businesses and families of Pakistani elite in UaE and the West alone means this will not happen, then we come to the actual pact, security, retaliation and geopolitics.

 

[hyperman]

No it will not.

Its more likely that Iran coming to help Hezbollah. lol