Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[Ravenman]

There is a hadith about a King in Arabia who dies and that his 3 sons would fight for the throne putting the land of Najd in chaos.

MBS has 2 brothers and his father is old and sick.

 

[flyingorca]

There is a hadith about a King in Arabia who dies and that his 3 sons would fight for the throne putting the land of Najd in chaos.

MBS has 2 brothers and his father is old and sick.

Oh please.....
There is also a hadith which says dajjal will be blind in one eye... hmmmm I wonder who that is....

 

[flyingorca]

People do not get it. Iran is just fighting for their interest only. They want to replace Saudi influence in the region with theirs. If you think wahhabism is some backward cult religion, wait until you educate yourself with Iranian Shia beliefs.. no wonder why almost every other Iranian wants to abandon their religion the moment they step outside Iran. Almost every other Iranian I meet in US hates Islam with passion.

 

[Owaiz]

Shoulda woulda coulda

please explain what immunity would Israel have that it already does not have had KSA recognized Israel? You people speak about this and that Muslim nation about to recognize Israel but please explain what super natural power would that give Israel that it already doea not have?

It is about geopolitical signalling. Recognition by Saudi Arabia would be huge win and provide Israel a degree of diplomatic legitimacy that it currently does not have.

As an example, Taiwan invests significant resources in maintaining diplomatic relations with geopolitically insignificant nations like Palau, Tuvalu, Eswatini , etc because they are among the handful that recognize ROC instead of PRC as the official Chinese government. So, diplomatic signalling matters even if it may not have any significant realpolitik impact.

 

[Starlord]

And whether or not its true for anyone you quote here - that is the real problem.
Hiding in mosques, using religion to promote proxy conflicts and so on is why you have a situation where you simply no longer have right or wrong sides.

They have right and wrong, just for their own sect, Shia will go out of their ways to defend Shia-Bullshittry, and Sunni will do the same. But we can agree that Mecca/Medina should be off limit to any attack, but you will see the Iranians and Pakistani's Shia hazrat will justify it while making all kind of stuff about the so called Aal-e-Saud.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

They have right and wrong, just for their own sect, Shia will go out of their ways to defend Shia-Bullshittry, and Sunni will do the same. But we can agree that Mecca/Medina should be off limit to any attack, but you will see the Iranians and Pakistani's Shia hazrat will justify it while making all kind of stuff about the so called Aal-e-Saud.

I have a solution for you!


Pak. should kill all the shias inside Pak. an nu** IR and KSA should also kill 100% of all the shias... that will solve all your shia and sunni problems



thats how insane your argument is, let alone madness and downright stupidity of your post that has now touched the limits of void!



BTW in 1914, KSA government was the first authority to destroy many historical sites in Medina, not shia of Pakistan or IR or arab shias!


Please ST*U!

 

[SteppeWolff]

I have a solution for you!


Pak. should kill all the shias inside Pak. an nu** IR and KSA should also kill 100% of all the shias... that will solve all your shia and sunni problems



thats how your insane, mad and downright idiotic your post is!



BTW in 1914, KSA government was the first authority to destroy many historical sites in Medina, not shia of Pakistan or IR or arab shias!


Please ST*U!

That guy is a troll. He also sees all Pashtuns, Baloch and Sindhis as animals.

 

[flyingorca]

It is about geopolitical signalling. Recognition by Saudi Arabia would be huge win and provide Israel a degree of diplomatic legitimacy that it currently does not have.

As an example, Taiwan invests significant resources in maintaining diplomatic relations with geopolitically insignificant nations like Palau, Tuvalu, Eswatini , etc because they are among the handful that recognize ROC instead of PRC as the official Chinese government. So, diplomatic signalling matters even if it may not have any significant realpolitik impact.

Lets say if tomorrow Pakistan and KSA recognize Israel, what power does it give Israel over Palestine and Muslim world that they dont already have is what I am trying to find out. You only gave me a blanket statement but did not tell me what earth shattering advantage do they get that they do not already have? Like does that give them the right to occupy Palestine? Isnt that what they are already been doing?

 

[Owaiz]

Lets say if tomorrow Pakistan and KSA recognize Israel, what power does it give Israel over Palestine and Muslim world that they dont already have is what I am trying to find out. You only gave me a blanket statement but did not tell me what earth shattering advantage do they get that they do not already have? Like does that give them the right to occupy Palestine? Isnt that what they are already been doing?

If KSA recognises Israel, Israel will be able to sell their weapons and other goods and services directly to Saudi Arabia and invest in the Saudi economy and receive investments from them. They might even both join some US brokered defence alliance.

 

[Watandar]

Lets say if tomorrow Pakistan and KSA recognize Israel, what power does it give Israel over Palestine and Muslim world that they dont already have is what I am trying to find out. You only gave me a blanket statement but did not tell me what earth shattering advantage do they get that they do not already have? Like does that give them the right to occupy Palestine? Isnt that what they are already been doing?

KSA recognition means Pakistan and Indonesia follow suit and then smaller Muslim countries will say if those big nations joined Israel then why not us ?

Before the Iran wars Mr Hussain Haqqani, of Memogate fame, who now lives in and works for the UAE, was pushing a similar line on Pakistan tv stations about Abraham Accords.

 

[r3alist]

If KSA recognises Israel, Israel will be able to sell their weapons and other goods and services directly to Saudi Arabia and invest in the Saudi economy and receive investments from them. They might even both join some US brokered defence alliance.

Ohhhh and that's a good thing post gaza

 

[flyingorca]

If KSA recognises Israel, Israel will be able to sell their weapons and other goods and services directly to Saudi Arabia and invest in the Saudi economy and receive investments from them. They might even both join some US brokered defence alliance.

Oh really, did you get special access to read that accord? Or did you just made that up with your imagination? Btw, there were some talks about Pakistan and KSA open to recognizing Israel only if Israel agrees to end occupation of Palestinian territory captured after 1967. If this brings peace to the region then I 100% agree with this.

 

[flyingorca]

KSA recognition means Pakistan and Indonesia follow suit and then smaller Muslim countries will say if those big nations joined Israel then why not us ?

Before the Iran wars Mr Hussain Haqqani, of Memogate fame, who now lives in and works for the UAE, was pushing a similar line on Pakistan tv stations about Abraham Accords.

Almost every Pakistani leader yes including Imran Khan has floated the idea of recognizing Israel under some conditions such as ending Palestinian occupation.
Btw dont you think Iran and its proxies have only caused more harm to Palestinian cause then any good by constantly engaging with Israel with un win-able wars which gives Israel justification to occupy more and more Palestinian territories as well as Lebanon? If Pakistan and KSA were inches closer to having Israel withdraw back to post 1967 border then the blame is on Iran and its proxies for restarting the conflict.

 

[Owaiz]

Oh really, did you get special access to read that accord? Or did you just made that up with your imagination? Btw, there were some talks about Pakistan and KSA open to recognizing Israel only if Israel agrees to end occupation of Palestinian territory captured after 1967. If this brings peace to the region then I 100% agree with this.

No idea which accord you are talking about, but one doesn't need any special access to any accord to figure out that Israel's relations with KSA after recognition would be similar to the relations it currently has with Abraham Accord signatories like UAE.

 

[r3alist]

No idea which accord you are talking about, but one doesn't need any special access to any accord to figure out that Israel's relations with KSA after recognition would be similar to the relations it currently has with Abraham Accord signatories like UAE.

Numerous Saudi officials have said recognition is off the table rakz.