Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

If his power got nerfed by the coming midterm election, and will most likely be face the imminent impeachment, he will make sure that you guys won't have voting power anymore in 2028, and he will secure his third term by launching some scorched-earth policies to make sure he can stay in power forever.

That's what I've been warning of. If he sees his party is over he will move to escalate a war either in middle east, Europe or both to try to remain in power as a war president and declare marshall law. Near end of his term in 2028-2029. It all depends on how many oligarchs, politicians and military leadership are willing to work with him.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Trump has not abandoned his imperialist agenda to extract Iran's wealth

The US can accept the reality that the Strait of Hormuz or even the entire Persian Gulf being controlled by Iran, and the Strait Al-Bab El Mandeb or even the entire Red Sea being controlled by the Houthis, but you guys have to keep acting as the vassals of its Petro-Dollar Empire.

 

[tsunset]

Iran should aim to kill the maximum amount of Sons of Bitches on a tanker near Iran

 

[Falcon29]

Well Egypt and Israel haven't had any war for many decades now. Sure, it's a cold peace, but it's still a peace nonetheless

They haven't but neither have Iran and Israel for decades until recently. Egypt and Israel train for war against each other and these is evident by their weapons systems and training exercises. It's a peace that's benefitting both nations but can also be characterized as a fragile peace. Especially with recent crisis in Gaza.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

That's what I've been warning of. If he sees his party is over he will move to escalate a war either in middle east, Europe or both to try to remain in power as a war president and declare marshall law. Near end of his term in 2028-2029. It all depends on how many oligarchs, politicians and military leadership are willing to work with him.

I think your oligarch class loves their orange king more than any other US Presidents in the history, and even those past pro-liberal rich guys have now unmasked their staunch support for him.

So the US is basically always an oligarch-controlled who masked itself as the world largest democratic country.

 

[Lulldapull]

Turkey- US ally
Saudi - US ally
Pakistan - Major non Nato ally

if you don't think US made this whole thing up then i don't know what to tell you. I have nothing against the pact but to think it does not have western interests at heart is a little delusional

Irans already won this its just window dressing involving three weak countries into this drama.

Its just not going to make any difference these three muzz-Lim outfits vs Iran.

We all know this.

 

[Falcon29]

I think your oligarch class loves their orange king more than any other US Presidents in the history, and even those past pro-liberal rich guys have now unmasked their staunch support for him.

So the US is basically always an oligarch-controlled who masked itself as the world largest democratic country.

I agree it's not a real democracy. If a president ever order strikes on Israel they would not obey it and over ride presidential powers. But I think they are using him more than like him and will discard him and his family at one point. For them it's shifts controversy away from them towards him and his family for policies they want to implement. The Venezuala thing and Greenland is to me imo a oligarch goal to acquire more resources and cement US monopoly on North America and to counter Chinese influence there.

They may be using him for many reasons, including to see what Russia and China are trying to trigger in the US, where they want to weaken the US and its influence, discovering hidden channels, etc....

It sucks for the average person as world won't be friendly to the average person in the next decade and it sucks for weaker states that are going to swallowed up by larger powers if they don't adapt. New alliances could form. Or existing ones take new form.

But I don't quite yet have evidence to say the oligarchs want to burn it to the ground or an global cabal exists to do so.

 

[KAL-EL]

Irans already won this its just window dressing involving three weak countries into this drama.

Its just not going to make any difference these three muzz-Lim outfits vs Iran.

We all know this.

Nobody's won anything yet

It's still back and forth, and probably will be for a while

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I agree it's not a real democracy. If a president ever order strikes on Israel they would not obey it and over ride presidential powers. But I think they are using him more than like him and will discard him and his family at one point. For them it's shifts controversy away from them towards him and his family for policies they want to implement. The Venezuala thing and Greenland is to me imo a oligarch goal to acquire more resources and cement US monopoly on North America and to counter Chinese influence there.

They may be using him for many reasons, including to see what Russia and China are trying to trigger in the US, where they want to weaken the US and its influence, discovering hidden channels, etc....

It sucks for the average person as world won't be friendly to the average person in the next decade and it sucks for weaker states that are going to swallowed up by larger powers if they don't adapt. New alliances could form. Or existing ones take new form.

But I don't quite yet have evidence to say the oligarchs want to burn it to the ground or an global cabal exists to do so.

The late stage of the capitalism will uncontrollably evolve into an imperialistic state.

And the nature of the capitalism is monopolize all available resources with infinite greed, so it can never be a true democracy.

And the US is now entering into the latest stage of the capitalism's nature lifespan, so it won't need the facade of democracy anymore.

And the orange king is the more suitable facade at this stage, and the oligarch class behind him will very likely help him to secure a third term, but not via the election facade from the previous stage, but something more reminiscent to the pre-WWII era.

 

[Lulldapull]

Nobody's won anything yet

It's still back and forth, and probably will be for a while

Irans got long borders with what? 7 neighbors no? Can't just choke em out no? So chumps blockade ain't goin cut de mustard on Iran.

On de other hand, blocking the SOH/ Mandubb is seriously starting ta hurt every man n his dog now.

Irans got de uppa hand here no?

 

[Immortals]

Iran should take out MBS he is a obstacle towards peace in the Middle East

 

[Bahrami]

lol

 

[Immortals]

 

[Persian Gulf]

as suspected, Iran timed its response to coincide with opening of oil futures



Brent crude immediately jumped back up to $108

the reformists will urgently try to schedule a new meeting with Arabs to open the Strait of Hormoz for them

but unless the IRGC ups its game and hits more ships, they can't complain too much either

 

[retaxis]

as suspected, Iran timed its response to coincide with opening of oil futures



Brent crude immediately jumped back up to $108

the reformists will urgently try to schedule a new meeting with Arabs to open the Strait of Hormoz for them

but unless the IRGC ups its game and hits more ships, they can't complain too much either

Sounds like Iran got factions within that want different things. Iran needs to get its sh1t together to put maximum pressure on US/Israel/GCC. Got to ride the momentum to its fullest.