Naqvi did not object to India’s refusal to collect Women’s Asia Cup trophy

[I*R*A]

You are right about around 94,000 government schools closing in India, but that is because India’s total fertility rate has fallen well below 1.9, so there simply aren’t enough children in many areas to sustain the same number of schools.

Muslims in India still have a relatively higher fertility rate, but there are already enough schools to accommodate their children.

You do know that you surpassed Chinese population back in April 2023.

Not that much difference in fertility rate anymore, and with the calls for giving birth to four four hindu babies, three for family and one for baba ... I think the equation will drastically alter. Either you are against the calls for hindu rashtra yourself or you are waiting for it to become a reality and then come out in open with a victory symbol .. which one is it?

 

[Master Chief]

Seriously... you want to go there. As a Hindu, I can say I believe that Islam, Christianity and all other religions lead to one god. Can you have the same openess to accept Hinduism or Buddhism?

If and when you discard another persons POV based on "negation of other beliefs" you become corrupted.

Sir. You are taking this thread onto a new path, one that is generally not permitted on this forum. There are answers to your queries but we are straying beyond the scope of this discussion. Perhaps you should meditate and allow the answers to come to you by spiritual transgression.

 

[Master Chief]

LoL, genomic what ? didn't you say you look different than those Muslims meeting Modi?
Take a stand dodo.

Tell you what old sport. Let's not derail the thread. (The difference in appearance I referred to is - afaik -unrelated to genetics).

 

[samsite84]

Sir. You are taking this thread onto a new path, one that is generally not permitted on this forum. There are answers to your queries but we are straying beyond the scope of this discussion. Perhaps you should meditate and allow the answers to come to you by spiritual transgression.

My man - the ones taking thread to another direction were the supreme beings of Pakistan, I only reply never instigate. Thanks for the advice - kindly follow it and profess to other people on the forum too

 

[Master Chief]

My man - the ones taking thread to another direction were the supreme beings of Pakistan, I only reply never instigate. Thanks for the advice - kindly follow it and profess to other people on the forum too

Look buddy, two different issues are now being conflated. Pointing out the perceived dependency of state policy on religious factors is quite different from initiating theological discussion about the relative credibility, or otherwise, of actual religious beliefs.

The former has been rightly inferred by most worthy and seasoned forumgoers. The latter should be avoided by all of us.

 

[samsite84]

Look buddy, two different issues are now being conflated. Pointing out the perceived dependency of state policy on religious factors is quite different from initiating theological discussion about the relative credibility, or otherwise, of actual religious beliefs.

The former has been rightly inferred by most worthy and seasoned forumgoers. The latter should be avoided by all of us.

All polytheists of India know that they face an existential threat from incorruptible fundamemtals of monotheism. It's one of the motivating factor in codification of all such polytheistic beliefs under geopolitical nomenclature called Hinduism.

Pakistan has no qualms about being an ideological state borne out of political struggle in post colonial nation state mosaic of the world.

All you have for your identity is that you are not-Pakistani.

The assertions by your dear friend is in 2nd category and thats what I responded to - and its a bit rich to say Indian state policy has religious factors for a nation that calls itself "Islamic" and hence declares what the state's religion is...

I don't want to dabble in nonsense discussions on race, genetics, religion - what matters is your actions today and how much can you own them but it seems like many forum members here are living in the past

 

[Master Chief]

The assertions by your dear friend is in 2nd category and thats what I responded to - and its a bit rich to say Indian state policy has religious factors for a nation that calls itself "Islamic" and hence declares what the state's religion is...

I don't want to dabble in nonsense discussions on race, genetics, religion - what matters is your actions today and how much can you own them but it seems like many forum members here are living in the past

Read his statement again. In fact, my worthy colleague is CLEARLY explaining the politics that arise from religion in the case of India, which is what is being discussed. He is not claiming one or the other belief is "true" or "false".

If you think he is entering into a theological debate, flag it to the mods and see what they say.

I will maintain that discussion of the political impact of religion remains reasonable and indeed, necessary, when fully analysing multiple zones of conflict in today's world.

 

[Jungle Book]

Read his statement again. In fact, my worthy colleague is CLEARLY explaining the politics that arise from religion in the case of India, which is what is being discussed. He is not claiming one or the other belief is "true" or "false".

If you think he is entering into a theological debate, flag it to the mods and see what they say.

I will maintain that discussion of the political impact of religion remains reasonable and indeed, necessary, when fully analysing multiple zones of conflict in today's world.

Ignoring the differences in religion and their influence on India and Pakistan would be naive. Pakistan was created in the name of Islam, and both Indians and Pakistanis need to acknowledge that religion can shape a society's worldview, Hinduism in the case of India and Islam in the case of Pakistan.

 

[vasanthm]

Firstly, we actually are your genomic forefathers. Show some respect.

Secondly, you are more than happy for Indian muslims to be Asaduddin types, in terms of behaviour (not sure where you read ethnicity from in my previous post). These types are easily paid off by promises of local influence and control over religious dogmatic minutiae, while their true legacy lies in ruins. If it wasn't for Pakistan, south Asian muslims would all be subservient simpletons to the narratives of bhakts.

if 'Asaduddin types' want to be subservient simpletons, whats your issue with that? let them be...

 

[Master Chief]

Ignoring the differences in religion and their influence on India and Pakistan would be naive. Pakistan was created in the name of Islam, and both Indians and Pakistanis need to acknowledge that religion can shape a society's worldview, Hinduism in the case of India and Islam in the case of Pakistan.

Pakistan was created, not as an Islamic state, but as a safe haven for Muslims from RSS designs. Feel free to read M.S.Golwalkar's extensive commentary on the matter of how to "deal with" the south Asian musulman.

Jinnah, Nehru, Gandhi all knew. Nehru and Gandhi pretended it wouldn't happen. Jinnah accepted reality. Even Winston Churchill had written on what the hindoo had in store for the musulman as a form of "civilisational recourse".

 

[Master Chief]

if 'Asaduddin types' want to be subservient simpletons, whats your issue with that? let them be...

If someone identifies as a "dalit", it is not my business to correct them.

However, if the owner of said dalit refuses to acknowledge the existence of their civilisational spoils, then those of us who quietly observe from the backbenches shall certainly submit their observations as a point of information before the House.