Any attempt to divert Pakistan’s water to be treated as act of war, India ‘must make no mistake about it’: PM at UNGA

In the thread below, I debated another member a year ago on this subject, and Pakistan fundamentally comes out worse.

Perhaps. But India has more poverty than Pakistan does.
 
Perhaps. But India has more poverty than Pakistan does.

Go through that link, and you'll understand that, in a population comparison, if India were to scale down to Pakistan's population levels, or Pakistan were to scale up to India's population levels, Pakistan would still have higher poverty levels.
 
Go through that link, and you'll understand that, in a population comparison, if India were to scale down to Pakistan's population levels, or Pakistan were to scale up to India's population levels, Pakistan would still have higher poverty levels.
Yes by percentage.

However in absolute numbers, India has more poverty. That is where I am right.

Yes sadly, the situation in Pakistan is not very good. That is why there is a big rush to help Pakistan out.
 
Yes by percentage.

However in absolute numbers, India has more poverty. That is where I am right.

Yes sadly, the situation in Pakistan is not very good. That is why there is a big rush to help Pakistan out.

That's to be given considering the large population India has, but overall, it's a better success story than the shit basket to its west.

Nobody will help Pakistan out (and there is no big rush) if the country itself can't help itself. Rather, they come to Pakistan to study, WTF, not to do.

To be real, it's more of a burden on the world than anything.

Anyway, not going to drag this topic on.
 
When is the time of actual realtime action? Making speeches has been going on for a while now. the indian govt is not really caring much about these speech and they're still doing everything to stop, reduce and divert the water.
When will action be taken on the "act of war" is what i want to know.
 
When Shehbaz Sharif delivered his speech at the UN, Pakistan still didn't have a water policy. Pakistan wastes much of the water it receives via the IWT. Threatening India won't change this reality.
 
There can be no peace and Pakistan's existence will always be threatened until and unless Pakistan ecomes string enough and actually secures the source of the river water, on the ground, permanently.

Blowing up a dam is a short sighted solution in which you are inviting the enemy to target your dams reciprocally aswel, be it in the disputed regions or not.

A win is only counted as a win by how much ground you have captured, not by how many planes you shot down.
 
It would look good if you have the power to back it up, but history shows otherwise once the conflict prolongs.
History be damned, you think the US looks at Afghanistan & Vietnam when doing their Hangama around the world? They're also prolonged conflicts. Pakistan can also control the escalation ladder. Worst case scenario what will happen? Nuclear kabooms and every one dies? Is that worse than just you going alone?
 
Yeah, but India has more poverty and poverty percentage than Pakistan has.
Is there any data which suggests that the percentage of people living below the poverty line in India is higher than in Pakistan?
 
India is diverting water flowing through it’s territory, their is no Pakistani water here.

Rest Pakistan can consider whatever it likes act of war or anything, nobody cares.
Terrorism is already an act of war. Diverting the Indus waters is simply India responding in kind. Whether pakistan calls it an act of war or not changes nothing, we are already at war with Pakistan.
 
India redirecting water away from Pakistan sets a precedent to normalise such things and presents that as an option for China to redirect India's water.
 
When is the time of actual realtime action? Making speeches has been going on for a while now. the indian govt is not really caring much about these speech and they're still doing everything to stop, reduce and divert the water.
When will action be taken on the "act of war" is what i want to know.
Diverting Indus waters is a formidable engineering challenge in its own right. Yet the Modi government’s decision to pursue it marks a welcome and long-overdue shift.

Earlier governments never seriously attempted such a step. Once this water is redirected to Punjab, Haryana, Rajasthan and Gujarat, no future government will be able to reverse course and restore the Indus Waters Treaty—doing so would ignite farmer protests across India.

Just as treating terrorism as an act of war established an irreversible precedent, large-scale diversion of Indus waters, once implemented on the ground, will prove equally irreversible.

For the first time, an Indian government is approaching India-Pakistan relations through a rational and practical lens rather than a philosophical one, and is altering realities on the ground. talks with Pakistan will yield results only when India first takes concrete measures of this kind.
 
India redirecting water away from Pakistan sets a precedent to normalise such things and presents that as an option for China to redirect India's water.
India is at war with Pakistan, not with China. If China wants to stop Indian water, it is free to do so.

When India calls something an act of war, we mean it. We do not issue nuclear threats. But if India ever issued a nuclear threat, the world economy would tank from the threat alone, without a single weapon being used—because the world knows we walk our talk.
 

Any attempt to divert Pakistan’s water to be treated as act of war, India ‘must make no mistake about it’: PM at UNGA​


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Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif speaks during the 81st United Nations General Assembly at UN headquarters in New York on September 25, 2026. — AFP
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Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif reiterated before the United Nation’s General Assembly on Friday that any attempt by India to divert Pakistan’s share of water would be treated as an “act of war”.

“Water must never be weaponised. Rivers should nourish nations, not divide them. Therefore, any attempt to stop, impede or divert Pakistan’s share of the waters will be treated as an act of war. India must make no mistake about it,” he said.

The premier was addressing the 81st session of the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) in New York.

“The pursuit of peace is among the noblest of human endeavours,” the premier began his speech by saying, adding that Quaid-i-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah’s declaration of support for the UN Charter had shaped Pakistan’s national ethos and “guided our conduct at home and abroad”.


He addressed the conflict in the Gulf region and wider Middle East, highlighting the loss of lives, economic suffering and pressure faced by critical maritime routes, particularly the Strait of Hormuz.

“At this critical moment, Pakistan chose to act swiftly. Through concerted efforts, Pakistan brought Washington and Tehran under one roof in Islamabad,” PM Shehbaz said, referring to the Islamabad Talks that resulted in the signing of the Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding by the United States and Iran in June.

In this regard, he appreciated Chief of Defence Forces and Chief of the Army Staff Field Marshal Asim Munir, whose “relentless efforts helped create space for diplomacy under exceptionally difficult and challenging circumstances”. He also extended his appreciation to Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar for his role in the process.

“Amid the roar of missiles, drones and guns, the voice for diplomacy must echo even louder and stronger,” the premier stated.

“The Strait of Hormuz and Bab al-Mandab are arteries of the global economy. They must remain open, connecting nations, not becoming choke points of confrontation.”


He also condemned, “in the strongest possible terms”, the recent attacks by the Houthis against the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, calling them “deplorable”. He expressed Pakistan’s complete solidarity with Saudi Arabia.

He also highlighted the Makkah Joint Defence Agreement signed by Pakistan, Turkiye and Saudi Arabia as a reflection of Pakistan’s commitment to peace.

“This alliance is not directed against any country; it is a collective commitment for defence, stability and peace in the region, and nothing more,” he stressed.

PM Shehbaz also addressed last year’s conflict with India, which was driven by a terror attack in Pahalgam that New Delhi blamed on Islamabad, which denied the allegations.

“Our brave and valiant armed forces, under the courageous leadership of Field Marshal Asim Munir, responded with precision and professionalism,” he said.

He once again praised US President Donald Trump’s “resolute and visionary leadership” in brokering a ceasefire between the two countries in May 2025, stressing that it saved “hundreds of millions of lives”.

“Who knows the extent of devastation that could have taken place had President Trump not stepped in at this critical moment with clarity of thought and action?” he said.

“We must therefore ensure that South Asia never reaches this precipice ever again.”

This, however, the premier added, required a fair resolution of the Kashmir dispute.

“For eight decades, the Kashmiri people have waited for the United Nations to fulfill its solemn commitment of a free and impartial plebiscite,” he pointed out, adding that they had endured “illegal occupation, arbitrary detention, extrajudicial killings, enforced disappearances, sexual violence and collective punishment” for generations.

He declared that Pakistan would continue to extend its full diplomatic, political and moral support to Kashmiris until they were granted their right to self-determination, terming Kashmir “Pakistan’s jugular vein”.

The prime minister also called attention to India’s unilateral decision to hold the Indus Water Treaty (IWT) in abeyance since last year’s conflict, stressing that it had no legal basis.

He highlighted that the country’s claims and actions regarding the treaty had been rejected by UN experts as well as by the Permanent Court of Arbitration, leaving Pakistan “vindicated beyond any ray of doubt” in its position.

“Water must never be weaponised. Rivers should nourish nations, not divide them,” he stressed, calling the Indus river system the “lifeblood” of the entire region.

He added that any attempt to stop, impede or divert Pakistan’s share of the waters would be regarded as an act of war by India.

During his address, PM Shehbaz also restated Pakistan’s support for Palestine, expressing his concern for ongoing Israeli violence in Gaza and the West Bank as well as its continued aggression against Lebanon and Syria. In particular, he noted that the forcible eviction of Palestinians in the West Bank “clearly reflects Israel’s genocidal agenda”.

“Pakistan believes that the only just and lasting solution is the creation of an independent, sovereign, viable and contiguous State of Palestine, based on pre-1967 borders, with Al-Quds Al-Sharif as its capital,” he reaffirmed.

The premier also termed terrorism a grave threat to international peace and security, emphasising that Pakistan had sacrificed “almost 100,000 precious lives” and suffered economic losses of over $150 billion in combating terrorism.

He added that Afghan territory continued to be exploited by the TTP and the BLA. These foreign-funded groups operated from sanctuaries in Afghanistan intending to destabilise Pakistan, he said.

He called on Afghan authorities to halt all such attacks, fulfill their international commitments and take “verifiable, decisive action to ensure that Afghan soil is never again used against Pakistan or any other country”.

Last year, at the very same forum, this clown had declared that "any violation of the treaty will be considered an act of war". Now that India is clearly violating the treaty by refusing to share hydrological data, he has already diluted his position. If he is still around next year, he will make even more concessions on Pakistan's red lines.

Meanwhile , he was gone from giving Trump credit for saving 10s of millions of lives to hundreds of millions in his latest speech. Soon it will be billions. Such an embarrassment.
 
India is at war with Pakistan, not with China. If China wants to stop Indian water, it is free to do so.

When India calls something an act of war, we mean it. We do not issue nuclear threats. But if India ever issued a nuclear threat, the world economy would tank from the threat alone, without a single weapon being used—because the world knows we walk our talk.

Yeah and if China issued a nuclear threat, the world would tank even more. What's your point? Do you think if Pakistan issued a nuclear threat, the world would not tank? So India is no greater than Pakistan.

India is not at war with Pakistan. You have gotten such a basic fundamental wrong. India nor Pakistan have declared war. You are not at war with each other. You have major grievances and small skirmishes once in a while. You are constantly at each other's throats. But none of these constitute war which is a formal matter because that's the only way to define it.

You guys did announce you will be taking over parts of disputed Kashmir and Ladakh in your government. Amit Shah formally stated these things. It doesn't constitute war but you didn't walk that talk at all. That's as close to any formal declaration of intention to act as India has ever done. Same with this water treaty change. You will back down because you cannot handle Pakistan. Pakistan will force India to backtrack on this water issue.

Since this announcement from Pakistan stating that it will treat chocking Pakistan of water supply means war, India will not do it. Watch and see. Indians will enjoy this idea of being able to choke Pakistan but it will only ever exist in fantasy. Like every single Indian fantasy in the past that time proved Indians wrong again and again and again and again and again...
 

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