JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

[Deino]

@Musings Do we really need to spam this - and other threads - with such crappy click-bait YouTube videos?

 

[Bratva]

@Musings Do we really need to spam this - and other threads - with such crappy click-bait YouTube videos?

I'm gonna take a guess. You didn't click and watch the GoPro videos of JF-17 flying because PAF gave access to this guy to JF-17 and J-10 fligthline. You think a think thank would spam the thread with clickbait videos? Either you shooting from the hip or I am. You decide.

 

[Ali_Baba]

@Musings Do we really need to spam this - and other threads - with such crappy click-bait YouTube videos?

The videos are fine - i quite enjoyed them.

 

[Bratva]

@Michael Do you think JF-17 HMD is customized version of J-10 C?

JF-17 HMD




J-10 C HMD

 

[Bratva]

Another interesting observation, the video where block-3 performing high g/tight turns. Pilot wore a simple tactical helmet and head tracking/position sensors are not attached in the rear vs when the pilot wore the helmet and sensors are attached in above post. Does it mean a pilot wearing HMDS would be restricted in executing High-G turns or would avoid Dogfights and would rely more on PL-10 and HMDS to execute high boreoff sight shots?

Looks more like it depends upon mission requirement. When needed, pilots would fly with HMDS.

But the J-10C videos shows a different trend. They wore the HMDS and executed tight turns in them!

 

[Michael]

@Michael Do you think JF-17 HMD is customized version of J-10 C?

JF-17 HMD

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J-10 C HMD

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1. It is known that Chinese companies have developed various HMD (Helmet-Mounted Display) models. Pilots of the J-20 fighter jet, for instance, have been seen wearing several different types of HMDs. However, pilots in active PLA service rarely wear the "fly-eye" style of helmet; instead, they predominantly use the "panda helmet"—another type of HMD, but one that lacks the protruding, fly-eye-like structures found on the other model.
Consequently, we do not know exactly which helmet model the PAF has actually procured.

2. All "fly-eye" helmets are custom-fitted to the individual pilot's head contours.

 

[hasssanali8998]

it depends upon mission requirement. When needed, pilots would fly with HMDS.

yes thats the case , its mission dependant . even f35 pilots wear simple helmet when its just a simple ferry job etc etc and not real training /mission .
also a lot of pics PAF j10c pilots wearing simple helmets .
why wear expensive HMDs when mission doesnt require it .

 

[Ali_Baba]

@Michael Do you think JF-17 HMD is customized version of J-10 C?

JF-17 HMD

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J-10 C HMD

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Hi - "ALL" of the pictures you have posted, are of JF17's!!! The first is a J10CE leading 2 x JF17's.. Look at the canards!

 

[ghazi52]

Never Cross The Line.

© Ibrahim Hashim

 

[ghazi52]

Combat & Aviation History Of Pakistan​

January 7, 2021 ·

CAC/PAC JF-17 Block III Conducting Test Flight. A New Radome Suggests That An AESA Radar Has Been Installed, Presumably The KLJ-7A.

 

[White Privilege]

Another interesting observation, the video where block-3 performing high g/tight turns. Pilot wore a simple tactical helmet and head tracking/position sensors are not attached in the rear vs when the pilot wore the helmet and sensors are attached in above post. Does it mean a pilot wearing HMDS would be restricted in executing High-G turns or would avoid Dogfights and would rely more on PL-10 and HMDS to execute high boreoff sight shots?

Looks more like it depends upon mission requirement. When needed, pilots would fly with HMDS.

But the J-10C videos shows a different trend. They wore the HMDS and executed tight turns in them!

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It appears to be way to reduce cervical stress wherever possible, as HMDS is quite heavy. Also, during the first official induction (which featured the infamous Helmet walk),PAF only did load up the J-10CE with missiles which was on the ground, the remaining five which did the aerobatics were clean. So stress reduction, on men and machine, wherever possible.....

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

AVM(R) Haider Habib Khan confirms the presence of RD-93MA on Block III fleet with new engine health management system. The system has been instrumental in increasing the fleet availability rate and increased time between maintenance. The system has become a key component of JF-17 and PFX program.
8:20 onwards

To me, this guy sometimes comes across as a Pakistani version of Gobar Ayra. He tends to oversimplify complex issues and portray the opponent as incompetent. In his recent show, he presented Indian defense projects as complete failures while portraying the JF-17 as a 100% success story, conveniently overlooking the fact that the AZM program was also shelved. It's important not to underestimate an adversary whose budget is three times larger than yours.

 

[AeronautIR]

Thank you mate

 

[Hussain]

why wear expensive HMDs when mission doesnt require it

There is a weight penalty with the HMD's, IMHO that has more to do with choosing it rather than expense.