Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

So I’m curious not even about the missiles that are being rapidly produced but I’m curious how long would it take Irma to replace launch systems for those missiles or even the silos that were hit anyone know or at least an educated guess @Persian Gulf @Immortals

launchers are in theory very easy to produce and should not be a bottleneck

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Immortals]

Is he alluding to Raisi was assassinated?

 

[Shags202]

Is he alluding to Raisi was assassinated?

Or he dye just thinks any and all politicians in the past were killed were presidents…he’s not the smartest guy in the tool shed he’s just a born liar and con artist

 

[mangekyo]

Crude oil is definitely getting out a lot more. There is no point in denying that. The problem now is the shortage of refined products like petrol and diesel.

But that doesn’t mean it isn’t a controlled output.

 

[Shags202]

They have some missiles, but we can handle it. Very few are left, and their manufacturing capacity is dead,” Trump added
He keeps repeating same tired out lines
did he not see visual confirmation of Iranian underground missile base production site and for a country that had only 9 percent of the estimated 2500 to 3000 missiles(always thought that number extremely low upwards 5000 to 1000 srbm and mrbm at least) they fired off few hundred missiles during the ceasefire I would think they would be completely done….than we have also seen brand new shipments of missiles that were intercepted recently can’t believe a country that is running low on missiles would sacrifice their defensive and offensive abilities for an ally

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Master Chief]

With 10.000 troops you can invade just 15 square kilometers of Ahvaz at much.

A small land operation can be even more challenging that a land invasion with hundreds of thousands of soldiers.

Irán has an undetermined firepower, but knowing the expansion of launch sites and being confirmed the missile assembling capability, the chances are exponentially decreasing.

I think It is just theater. He's gambling again.

Agree with you. A US led land operation is the single worst thing they could do now. It gives Iran a glimmer of a chance at inflicting a real cost on USA (if Iran could actually capitalise on such an opportunity though). That said, if USA can find a way to send Gulf troops in to absorb the hits from Iran, it might not go down so badly in DC.

Trump most probably prefers an aerial bombing campaign with a declaration of "victory".

 

[Falcon29]

Personally I don't see US facing any kind of nightmare scenario on the ground besides making the objective too large to where it requires a heavy number of ground forces which is not an option in 2026 as they need to be in ready state for any conflicts that can pop off with China and in Europe with Russia. Dedicating US manpower in Middle East is the biggest mistake that the US can't afford to do for those reasons.

Not because Iranian army is capable of inflicting massive casualties on US ground forces. I don't believe they are. US pilot being rescued from inside Iran is one example.

I'm not convinced that Iranian army can contend well against a modern military force with massive funding. Saddam's army couldn't. Irans army won't be able to defend coastal areas without AA, armored vehicles, control over their airspace, etc ....

The threat to US forces would mostly be mines/other anti armor + infantry weapons. Drones will not do much neither artillery against US forces.

Only reason they haven't considered taking Kharg Island, for example, is because neighboring Arab nations are not cooperating in acting as staging base for invasion.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Falcon29]

Personally I don't see US facing any kind of nightmare scenario on the ground besides making the objective too large to where it requires a heavy number of ground forces which is not an option in 2026 as they need to be in ready state for any conflicts that can pop off with China and in Europe with Russia. Dedicating US manpower in Middle East is the biggest mistake that the US can't afford to do for those reasons.

Not because Iranian army is capable of inflicting massive casualties on US ground forces. I don't believe they are. US pilot being rescued from inside Iran is one example.

I'm not convinced that Iranian army can contend well against a modern military force with massive funding. Saddam's army couldn't. Irans army won't be able to defend coastal areas without AA, armored vehicles, control over their airspace, etc ....

The threat to US forces would mostly be mines/other anti armor + infantry weapons. Drones will not do much neither artillery against US forces.

Only reason they haven't considered taking Kharg Island, for example, is because neighboring Arab nations are not cooperating in acting as staging base for invasion.

Iran has prepared to its best ability to be able to absorb an US/Israeli attack plus retain strike capabilities on top of absorbing those attacks.

It did not prepare for a US limited ground ops in context of trying to actually repel such offensives. It cannot do that on those islands and coastal areas. The areas are large empty barren land and mountains. They cannot defend them without AA even with limited AA capabilities it would be a big struggle.

Instead they'd opt for trying to raise cost of such ops by striking at GCC infrastructure and maybe on Israel.

Trump is not taking ground op route because Arabs refuse to be a staging ground for that right now and US army and government is respecting that decision up until now.

Iranian asymmetrical tactics also helped it retain strike capabilities against region. Mostly GCC and Saudi area unclear if they have anything up their sleeves for Israel but they haven't used their maximum capacity. And they likely have a large capacity than what is known to public, but US army and government is aware of it of that probability and taking it into account.

Now if the resumption of war happens every few months while naval blockade and economic warfare continues, it's setting up a opportunity for limited ground ops in next year or two. However, there is no strategic objective to that if Iranian population doesn't revolt as US army won't be used for regime change war/occupation Iraq style.

Thus it may not happen at all. Netanyahu and Israel never had a credible regime change plan that doesn't involve dragging the US into a occupation regime change long term and costly war. Which is why Trump allowing them to start the war was a mistake as they were already cooperating on nuclear profile. Trump administration knew for a fact Israel doesn't actually have a credible plan for anything but still went ahead.

So we're back to zero where plan is now to get Iran back into a nuclear agreement deal but try to coerce them into giving up enriched uranium and any demand for sovereignty over SOH.

 

[Jalz]

Is he alluding to Raisi was assassinated?

Trump is retarded. Don't take him seriously. He literally said Iran was making drugs in its nuclear facilities.