Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

Trump will likely launch an immediate attack on Iran if his party loses badly in the midterm election.

- He wants to become a war-time president. As to attack a country of the size of Iran, the length of war campaign will definitely outlast the end of his presidential term in Jan 2029, so he can avoid the impeachment even if the democrats control both house and senate.

- Even the democrats manage to win the congress, the republicans can still control the congress up to Jan 3rd of next year.

Now it is better for Iran to hoard more missiles and drones for the upcoming onslaught in the coming November.

AIPAC will not allow Trump to be impeached as long as he carries on the war on Iran. That is the bargain he will make/has made to keep out of impeachment. AIPAC controls both houses, and both parties at all time.

I wouldn't spend time thinking impeachment will happen, or that it will come to Iran's aid, it won't imho.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Unfortunately those aircraft carriers are almost unsinkable, they are made out of hundreds of metal compartments so that if they are hit they lock up the damaged areas and stay afloat. But it would be good to take out the deck of one of them along with a couple dozen jet fighters on board.

Unless you can use those hyper explosive warheads with the combination of the velocity of the hypersonic missiles.

The regular anti-ship missiles with small less explosive warheads are hard to sink it.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

AIPAC will not allow Trump to be impeached as long as he carries on the war on Iran. That is the bargain he will make/has made to keep out of impeachment. AIPAC controls both houses, and both parties at all time.

I wouldn't spend time thinking impeachment will happen, or that it will come to Iran's aid, it won't imho.

The democrats don't carry the burden of initiated the war on Iran.

The dems want to stop this war when they fully control the congress in order to appease the voters in the incoming 2028 election in favor of their own party.

However, if the US becomes too embedded into the Iran war that has the stake of the US hegemony in the Middle East, then the dems would not be able to stop it even they have the control on the congress.

 

[Mero]

AIPAC will not allow Trump to be impeached as long as he carries on the war on Iran. That is the bargain he will make/has made to keep out of impeachment. AIPAC controls both houses, and both parties at all time.

I wouldn't spend time thinking impeachment will happen, or that it will come to Iran's aid, it won't imho.

Democratic socialists are not part of AIPAC. Schumer is. Jeffries is.

List of Democrats Who Voted To Stop Trump Impeachment Effort​

A long-shot bid to impeach President Donald Trump by Democratic Representative Al Green of Texas was blocked by the House on Tuesday after 18 Democrats joined 213 Republicans to reject it.

Another 46 Democrats—including Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries of New York, Minority Whip Katherine Clark of Massachusetts and Caucus Chair Pete Aguilar of California—voted present.

List of Democrats Who Voted To Stop Trump Impeachment Effort

www.newsweek.com

You need to vote in primaries too to vote out the AIPAC candidates and crypto candidates.

It has to be a landslide next month. A close tie in Congress means the bought Democrats AIPAC or J Street side with... the 100% criminal Republican politicians.

Senate Shoots Down Final War Powers Resolution Before Midterm Elections​

A war powers resolution narrowly failed to pass the Senate Thursday after only four Republicans voted for its passage.

Republican Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, Rand Paul of Kentucky, Thom Tillis of North Carolina and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska voted with Democrats in favor of the resolution while a growing number of Republicans began breaking with President Donald Trump on the Iran war. It failed in a 49 to 50 vote.

Democratic Maryland Sen. Angela Alsobrooks did not vote. Republican Sens. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana and Jon Husted of Ohio, who have been critical of the Iran war, voted against the resolution.

Senate Shoots Down Final War Powers Resolution Before Midterm Elections – [your]NEWS

Republican Sens. Susan Collins of Maine, Rand Paul of Kentucky, Thom Tillis of North Carolina and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska voted with Democrats.

yournews.com

If Alsobrooks voted, Vance would have ruined 2028 chances at running in the Republican Primary because of a yes vote on war with Iran to tie break the Senate. Alsobrooks spared Vance this, she is a J Street zionist.

Many are questioning that fake family emergency by Alsobrooks. She is J Street, not AIPAC. Alsobrooks is also pro-crypto Jewish money.

The role of the controlled opposition Democrats is more of the same of old trump policies. So if voters voted AIPAC Democrats in 2016, no Iran war, keep the JCPOA. That is why you need Democrat Socialists that are not paranoid about the woke agenda as Republicans are, because these could actually be caring enough to roll back the American Empire. Despite not being paranoid as Republicans are about lesbians and immigrants. That should be a book: "Of Lesbians and Immigrants, Oh my! How you must vote for zionists out of fear of LGBTQ and immigrants"

 

[Mero]

MAGA vs. Socialists’ Chances With Voters as Republicans Distance From Trump​

According to the new poll, 51 percent of registered voters would pick the socialist Democrat who supports Medicare for All, ending military aid to Israel and abolishing ICE (U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement), compared to 34 percent who would select the MAGA Republican candidate who embraces mass deportations and always votes with Trump. The poll shows that 15 percent are not sure.

MAGA vs. socialists' chances with voters as Republicans distance from Trump

Registered voters would prefer a socialist Democrat compared to a MAGA Republican, a new poll shows six weeks ahead of midterms.

www.newsweek.com

Democratic Socialists are the hope against zionism in US politics. So zionist AIPAC Faux News fearmongers continually concerning Democratic Socialists.

 

[clutch]

First, let's get one thing straight! Without the consent of other major powers, the United States unilaterally using nuclear weapons—such a thing does not exist! If either Israel or Iran uses nuclear weapons without the consent of the major powers, the side that uses them will definitely be destroyed!

Rules based world has been dismantled... the world is still coming to terms with that. Yes, under the current framework, USA can unilaterally use nuclear weapons against Iran. The Monroe doctrine that USA is currently following allows for that use of might for hegemony.

There are no consequences. The world is still reliant of the US dollar system and America is still the sole hyperpower.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Good post and at the time(early April) I did not understand why Iran stopped the war when Zio-US were out of interceptors.

This was a strategic mistake by Iran and has led both USA and Israel to confirm that they are in control of the agenda and timelines for this war. Has Iran learnt that this was a mistake or not, and will they course correct on this ? Questions of course.

 

[Persian Gulf]

In Pakistan, the Afghan regime are called "namak harami's". In South Asian lingo, that is lowest and most offensive slur you can place on a person on their trust worthiness. There is no higher classification of betrayal and mistrust than to be called a "namak haram".. No slur on family members, beats it.

I would be very cautious on calling Afghans as "allies" ... (of course, Iran's decision etc .. ).

Pakistan has its own problems with the Taliban (after previously funding them), that's not our problem

Afghans are our brothers in every sense of the word, we speak the same language and have shared history and traditions, regardless of the Taliban regime (which I do not like at all, and which try to erase this shared history, but that's for Afghans to figure out)

 

[Mero]

Source: Netanyahu plotted false-flag aircraft hijacking to drag Trump into new war against Iran​

A well-informed source familiar with the matter has revealed new details about the incident related to an Emirati aircraft, saying Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s plan to win the upcoming election is to drag US President Donald Trump into a new quagmire against Iran.

The plot comes days after Netanyahu travelled to the UAE and held closed-door talks with Emirati President Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan.

Source: Netanyahu plotted false-flag aircraft hijacking to drag Trump into new war against Iran

A well-informed source familiar with the matter has revealed new details about the incident related to an Emirati aircraft, saying Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s plan to win the upcoming election is to drag US President Donald Trump into a new quagmire against Iran.

www.presstv.co.uk

Looks as though trump wanted a pre-election false flag blamed on a fake terrorist "Iranian Resistance Axis Global Revolution" or anything. And it failed miserably. Israel only bought one pilot for the false flag attack.

When the zionist news media covers a story hour after hour, day after day, the zionists are milking the story of as much influence it can have on the public.

As the usual suspects are preaching defeatism, it is fake it until you make it for the zionists. Defeatism is a psy-ops to get to the end goal of the zionists. No jail for Netanyahu. No defeat of trump. No rolling back the American Empire. When you have an opportunity to defeat the evil Empire, zionists are there preaching defeatism.

If zionists are winning, why the need for a false flag.

Defeatism would prevent this



Demoralize the resistance and have only trump bots and netanyahu bots in politics.

 

[ShapurII]

This was a strategic mistake by Iran and has led both USA and Israel to confirm that they are in control of the agenda and timelines for this war. Has Iran learnt that this was a mistake or not, and will they course correct on this ? Questions of course.

LMAO I remember it was you who said it was a brilliant idea. Now you admit it was a strategic mistake.

 

[ShapurII]

If the alternative is to be a puppet government of the US and Israel, you must be well aware that they will never allow you to become a potential future threat.
There will be no democratic government that no longer thinks of the Palestinians but only of yourselves; there will be a wasteland to be divided up and shared out.
Israel will not allow a large ‘terrorist’ state, and even less so a large state that is not one.

We are not a threat right now either. We're not a threat to even Afghanistan, let alone Israel or the US. And we are literally going down the toilet.
I would prefer a wasteland to the current situation of Iran. Iran is already a wasteland as we speak.

 

[ShapurII]

We are not capable of crippling their logistics. That requires a large number of precise strikes from 1500km away. All the IRGC generals who claimed Israeli jets would not have airbases to land on when they return from bombing Iran need to be put in jail, if they are not already dead.

We can hit large targets like refineries, but we are more vulnerable than them in that department given no one will come to rescue us like the US will rescue Israel.

I agree, unfortunately.

If you remember, I always said that the idea of destroying a military air base is delusional. I never believed that was possible.

But I believe it is possible to destroy the Israeli infrastructure for producing fuel, particularly jet fuel. It is possible, but the cost of it will be too high for Iran.

The problem is that as long as Iran is not a nuclear state, the control of the escalation ladder will be 100% with Israel. They will dictate Iran what to do in the war. Had Iran been a nuclear state, Israel wouldn't have been in complete control of the situation.

 

[UKBengali]

This was a strategic mistake by Iran and has led both USA and Israel to confirm that they are in control of the agenda and timelines for this war. Has Iran learnt that this was a mistake or not, and will they course correct on this ? Questions of course.

I feared they have not, but hope they have.

As Zionist entity cannot survive with wide scale damage/destruction of its infrastructure it held the upper hand in early April, as severely damaged or even destroyed infrastructure takes years to rebuild. Massive number of settlers would’ve run away and those are the ones that are the most skilled that are squatting in Palestine.

It’s Achilles heels have always been it’s small number of power plants and especially it’s water desalination plants.

Iran should’ve hit a couple of each then just called its own ceasefire in early April by firing off another 100 missiles over the space of 3-4 days.

 

[Mero]

There is a difference between Democrats and Republicans:



Republicans are far more bloodthirsty zionists. While Democrats are tempered.

If you are anti-zionist in the USA, Republicans view you as an illegal immigrant. The zionist outpost in Middle East can kill you and Republicans do not care.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Rules based world has been dismantled... the world is still coming to terms with that. Yes, under the current framework, USA can unilaterally use nuclear weapons against Iran. The Monroe doctrine that USA is currently following allows for that use of might for hegemony.

There are no consequences. The world is still reliant of the US dollar system and America is still the sole hyperpower.

Excuse me!

When was there a rules based world order?

Must have missed it!

Only time thee was bare minimum decency was when Muslims held the balance of power.

Judeo Christians slaughtered each other over two world wars when Ottoman Empire was declining and couldn’t provide the balance.