KP govt backs out of counterterrorism commitments during talks: Naqvi

[Goenitz]

so,
if these are Lashkars then KPK is already supporting
if these are good TTPs then it rasies questions.

if they can smuggle oil, anything can be smuggled.

 

[Distant_Observer]

 

[Goenitz]

حکومت اور پی ٹی آئی/تحریک تحفظ آئین پاکستان مزاکرات کی ناکامی کی بنیادی وجہ حکومتی اصرار تھا کہ خیبر پختونخواہ حکومت وفاق اور اسکے اداروں کے ان تمام اقدام اور آپریشنز کی تائید کرے جو صوبے میں دہشت میں ایمرجنسی کے نفاذ کی تائید مانگی گئی۔ پی ٹی آئی ٹیم کا موقف تھا کہ خیبر پختونخواہ میں پی ٹی آئی حکومت دہشت گردی کیلئے ہر گز کوئی برداشت نہیں رکھتی: دہشت گردی کے خاتمے کیلئے وفاق اور صوبائی حکومت کو خیبر پختونخواہ اسمبلی میں موجود تمام جماعتوں اور اسمبلی میں چند ماہ قبل صوبے کے معززین کے جرگے کی مشاورت اور سفارشات کی بنیاد پر ایک متفقہ لائحہ عمل طے کرنا چاہیے۔ ایسا لا ئحہ عمل ہی دہشت گردی کے خلاف کامیابی کی ضمانت ہو گا۔حکومت مشاورت اور اتفاق کا راستہ اپنانے کو تیار نہ تھی۔ پی ٹی آئی نے ہمیشہ اندھے آپریشنز کی مخالفت کی ہے جنکی وجہ سے معصوم خون بہے یا لوگوں کو بڑی تعداد میں اپنے ہی صوبے میں بے گھر ہونا پڑے۔گردی کے حوالے سے کئے جائیں گے۔ ضم اضلاع اور ان سے متصل علاقوں میں 72 گھنٹوں میں
پی ٹی آئی اور کی مزاکراتی ٹیم کا مرکزی مقصد عمران خان صاحب تک فوری رسائی، انکی شفا انٹرنیشنل ہسپتال منتقلی اور ذاتی معالج کی شمولیت کے ساتھ قائم طبی بورڈ کے ذریعے تشخیص اور علاج تھا۔ حکومتی ٹیم منگل کے دن عمران خان صاحب سے خاندان اور وکلا کی ملاقاتوں کی بحالی کے سوا کچھ اور دینے کو تیار نہ تھی۔

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[Goenitz]

Interior minister says military given go-ahead for peace talks with Pakistani Taliban

www.arabnews.pk

 

[PK781]

whats the latest situation on this now?

 

[Cipher212]

Shouldn't have held any talks with the army government in the first place. They have no right to be the government to begin with, neither are they interested in releasing an innocent men so then what is the point?

Just get on with the protest or whatever.

 

[SteppeWolff]

KPK people are fed up PTI fitnah

How much shekels did u get for this?

 

[Oscar]

And we wonder why KPK is only innovating in how its people blow shit up, when the provincial govt refused to take action against Terrorists but support it.

You can see the stance now by PTI supporters is basically - WE DONT WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING...
It is unfortunate because regardless of actual and valid points along with typical establishment cronyism and abuse of power.. the idea now is(especially for the expat PTI class) is that Pakistan is ok to burn - be broken up - Taliban takeover... etc.



The second you dont say EXACTLY what they say - they will call you a zionist.

Look at this... this is EXACTLY the PTI supporter script


How do you go from here?
Eventually - it will lead to this... maybe Maryum or Nawaz makes this exact speech in 3 years?

 

[Starlord]

You can see the stance now by PTI supporters is basically - WE DONT WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING...
It is unfortunate because regardless of actual and valid points along with typical establishment cronyism and abuse of power.. the idea now is(especially for the expat PTI class) is that Pakistan is ok to burn - be broken up - Taliban takeover... etc.



The second you dont say EXACTLY what they say - they will call you a zionist.

Look at this... this is EXACTLY the PTI supporter script


How do you go from here?
Eventually - it will lead to this... maybe Maryum or Nawaz makes this exact speech in 3 years?

Oh i know, had my fair share of interacting with the PTI's cultists here, I used to like Imran khan initially but he is just ego driven self centered narassicst, its like Me, I and Myself type of guy. And his supporters don't care, if Imran khan tomorrow say that I am the reincarnation of Isa Ibn Maryam his supporters will believe him. His Party works very similar to MAGA, they just make shyte up to justify the action of their messiah, no matter how stupid it sounds or even if means hurting the very country which he/his party wants to rule. Remember when MAGA cultist storm the Capital and majority of them were supporting that, heck they even hang Mike Pence if they get their hands on him or God knows what would they do to Senators like AOC, Illhan Omar or Rashida Talib.

I have talked to many Republicans in Florida, almost everyone either support Jan 6th or justify it, my former supervisor who was very racist, and now fired for his racist behavior told me with a straight face that Jan 6th was no insurrection but and I quote " Real American Patriots taking their country back " and "Police let the rioters inside the Capital Building" and none of the Police died or get killed or later committed suicide, or even badly injured, I was like bro there are videos available on youtube, and he was like i haven't seen any lol talking to Imran Khan supports feel exactly the same, I'd rather waste my time arguing with a brick wall, and funny thing is that just like Republicans will blame Democrats or try to bring a Democrat example to counter any FUQ up from Republicans, just like that if you argue with PTI supports they will say you are Army supporter or you worship Asim Munir lol mai ne apni life Army ya Army walo ka koi incentive nai liya, but you can't be neutral for these idiots, like you said its classic cult like mentality.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Congratulations to PTI for turning KPK into Ukraine

 

[Distant_Observer]

 

[Goenitz]

if they can openly lie, then they do worse behind the scenes.

 

[Cipher212]

And we wonder why KPK is only innovating in how its people blow shit up, when the provincial govt refused to take action against Terrorists but support it.

Its the army's fault at the end of the day.

They suck at walking, running, shooting, strafing, CQB, situational awareness, signals, intelligence, communication, public relations. They drive unarmoured Hiluxes into known ambush spots and go 'Oh' when the patrol doesn't come back. They'll do an "IBO" here and there (I don't think they know what it stands for) which somehow results in them going 1:1 in casualties against actual Goat F-ers

So once they get shafted by these long haired twinks in choori ke servis trainers, the officers are left scratching their heads, looking for a scape-goat to explain the poor performance to the higher ups.

After some time they come up with the solution. Let's blame it all on PTI!

Man I wish this was satire, but it's not. In all likelihood till qayamat the day will never come that this army has to answer for what it's done to the country but maybe in the next life eh?

I can sympathize with fauj-eets when they damn PTI for dragging the anti establishment narrative.

It's like Frankenstein ruing his monster but man, really? One cricketer has the world's greatest army this tied up? Ye kaise hua. 4 years in Jail and he is the only topic in Pakistan still.

 

[Oscar]

Oh i know, had my fair share of interacting with the PTI's cultists here, I used to like Imran khan initially but he is just ego driven self centered narassicst, its like Me, I and Myself type of guy. And his supporters don't care, if Imran khan tomorrow say that I am the reincarnation of Isa Ibn Maryam his supporters will believe him. His Party works very similar to MAGA, they just make shyte up to justify the action of their messiah, no matter how stupid it sounds or even if means hurting the very country which he/his party wants to rule. Remember when MAGA cultist storm the Capital and majority of them were supporting that, heck they even hang Mike Pence if they get their hands on him or God knows what would they do to Senators like AOC, Illhan Omar or Rashida Talib.

I have talked to many Republicans in Florida, almost everyone either support Jan 6th or justify it, my former supervisor who was very racist, and now fired for his racist behavior told me with a straight face that Jan 6th was no insurrection but and I quote " Real American Patriots taking their country back " and "Police let the rioters inside the Capital Building" and none of the Police died or get killed or later committed suicide, or even badly injured, I was like bro there are videos available on youtube, and he was like i haven't seen any lol talking to Imran Khan supports feel exactly the same, I'd rather waste my time arguing with a brick wall, and funny thing is that just like Republicans will blame Democrats or try to bring a Democrat example to counter any FUQ up from Republicans, just like that if you argue with PTI supports they will say you are Army supporter or you worship Asim Munir lol mai ne apni life Army ya Army walo ka koi incentive nai liya, but you can't be neutral for these idiots, like you said its classic cult like mentality.

You can see the response above - Look at point xyz and immediate whataboutism.
And they'll double down on it - keep repeating it until they can spam it like trolls.

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

After some time they come up with the solution. Let's blame it all on PTI!

In 2024 the KD ratio with terrorists was 1:1.3, with expansion of QC drone attacks on the enemy that has improved to 1:3.8 in third quarter of 2026. No more sending hiluxes to chase down every terrorist.

And who has attacked these drone operations? PTI, their afghan nationalist ally Achakzai and PTM. Why?

I wouldn't say PTI deserves all the blame but they do deserve a lot of it for confusing the country about WOT for 16 years. For suggesting surrender to head choppers in negotiations as viable peace. Peace of the grave.

And even if Pakistan concedes FATA or kpk even to PTI's "peace". There is 100% guarantee that PTI will turn around and blame Pakistan for that peace of the grave. This has already happened with ANP that gave swat to TTP for peace and then blamed Pakistan when women were getting caned in the streets.