Federal cabinet gives nod to imposition of emergency in KP; summary sent to president

[prothought]

The same public who have voted in PTI for 14 years, that public? 14 years in a province where the electorate historically punish anyone they are not happy with at the polls.

All this passion from someone cupping Sharif khandans testes in 1 hand and probably the most unashamed dictator in Pakistani history in the other.

You people are the true bakhts - The Indians ain't got shit on you.

Yeah, every one knows the reality of those votes; how many voted and who engineered the election 2018 and 2024.

In any case, what PTI cult has given back to the people of KPK in 14 years? No education, no health facilities, no peace, and no work. It rather supported terrorists of TTP in every possible way and gave only deaths and destruction to the people of the province.

Why no one in KPK really cares about these sick-minded cult members after they were removed from the power corridors. Can't you think at all?

PTI Tickets for MNA/MPA/Senate seats were always sold. Why those who used to buy PTI tickets would come out into the streets for the sellers? It was a transactional relation, no more than that.

Your mental abilities, like any other member of this cult, are evident from your filthy slandering. Any one having difference of opinion with you is 'cupping Sharif khandans testes'. How a person having dignity can stoop to that level of disgrace as you have done..

 

[Cipher212]

Before PTI used to refuse these APCs for KP police! Helping TTP to attack police easily.

This is fake. PTI had these vehicles and other equipment procured in their time.

 

[Meengla]

And despite him being completely compromised POTUS to Israel, Pakistan has been trash talking Israel in International media, UN and everywhere they can, so much so that Pakistan even went ahead with MDA and sign defense agreement with KSA. But you are right, despite all of that Pakistan for now has been on the good side of Trump and because of that even Chaato kaar like Ted Cruz and late Lindsey were holding their words against Pakistan, if i remember correctly it was only once Lindsey was caught spewing BS against Pakistan, weeks after Pakistan hosting both US/Iranian delegation in Islamabad.

Lindsay Graham spoke the truth about Pakistan: Pakistan playing a double game with America much like Pakistan played during the American presence in Afghanistan (00s/10s). But there are not 'takers' for Lindsay's rhetoric against Pakistan: Trump quickly disowned Lindsay's statement against Pakistan. I believe everyone in Washington knows that Lindsay spoke the language of AIPAC and dismissed that because the Americans, under POTUS Trump, have placed a lot of importance in Pakistan, much like what POTUS Nixon once did.

As to Pakistan's role for Trump, I will admit I don't fully understand that and I don't want to speculate too much at this moment. But I am not complaining about POTUS Trump strictly when it comes to Pakistan's interests. His policies in the Middle East is something I can't ignore.

 

[Forsvaret]

This is fake. PTI had these vehicles and other equipment procured in their time.

Unfortunately fake news tend to produce more "likes" than the actual one below

Fake news! PTI govt in KPK paid for them and those armored vehicles are only getting delivered today during recently imposed Military Raj aka Governor Rule in the province.

 

[Blain2]

Agreed, unfortunately instead of doing that objective it is partaking in politics, businesses, land development, smuggling, drugs, international mediation (for some odd reason), mineral mining, making dramas and songs etc.

It is doing that objective too. Please take off your party lens for a change and realize that Pakistan Army has been conducting CI operations incessantly paying in blood and treasure.

This on top of the last exchange with India and sticking to its professional responsibilities.

I have said this again and again, don't confuse the professional army with the establishment. There is a Venn diagram of sorts in the works here.

 

[Forsvaret]

His policies in the Middle East is something I can't ignore.

Wait? So actually Trump has a coherent "policy" in the Middle East?

 

[Forsvaret]

I have said this again and again, don't confuse the professional army with the establishment. There is a Venn diagram of sorts in the works here.

There is NO doubt about professional military doing its job and actually paying the price in the form of martyrs. But what about the military establishment? Is it really doing its job in the best interests of Pakistan?

 

[SteppeWolff]

Nobody waits to fight external aggression till your own house is sorted out.

Look at ANY country in the world and you will see they have their domestic political issues ongoing while they are battling external aggression.

Your people are being "mass murdered" by Afghan nationals. Why make excuses for that?

Battling domestic political issues is VASTLY different from bulldozing popularly elected government of a highly volatile province.

Do you really think Pashtuns of KP already feeling insulted by the flame baiting statements of PML N politicians in recent days won't be extremely insulted that the same setup with full support of Fauj demolished their own elected government in their own province?

You don't throw petrol at a fire and then complain why you have a wildfire now

 

[Meengla]

It is doing that objective too. Please take off your party lens for a change and realize that Pakistan Army has been conducting CI operations incessantly paying in blood and treasure.
This on top of the last exchange with India and sticking to its professional responsibilities.
I have said this again and again, don't confuse the professional army with the establishment. There is a Venn diagram of sorts in the works here.

Why be apologetic about 'the Establishment'? General Asim Munir comes from a humble background and the Generals come from all walks of life--often poor and from all ethnicities of Pakistan. Just because a Zani (fornicator with an illegimate, disowned child), Harami Born against Muslim whispered 'The Establishment' to some ethnic or gullible ears, we start to distance ourselves from the only entity in Pakistan which holds Pakistan together and which has the ethnic representations from all over Pakistan?

 

[SteppeWolff]

only entity in Pakistan which holds Pakistan together

Are you really telling us that Pakistan's base is so shallow that a mere institution holds it together and otherwise it'd disintegrate?

Is this the new faujew chooran? Scare us that Pakistan is so fragile?

 

[Goenitz]

It is doing that objective too. Please take off your party lens for a change and realize that Pakistan Army has been conducting CI operations incessantly paying in blood and treasure.

So, would a few more ops bring change? Do you think humiliating the public and their mandate (have you seen S. Afridi pic, cuffed behind and surrounded by the Army) is professional?
Wouldn't it increase extremism and deprivation? Who will own IPPs displacement after new operations?
Anyway, let's see.

 

[Forsvaret]

...we start to distance ourselves from the only entity in Pakistan which holds Pakistan together and which has the ethnic representations from all over Pakistan?

So why couldn't this "mighty" military establishment from all ethnic representations hold Pakistan together back in 1971?

 

[Cipher212]

It is doing that objective too. Please take off your party lens for a change and realize that Pakistan Army has been conducting CI operations incessantly paying in blood and treasure.

This on top of the last exchange with India and sticking to its professional responsibilities.

I have said this again and again, don't confuse the professional army with the establishment. There is a Venn diagram of sorts in the works here.

It is unfortunate that you see any criticism of Army as a PTI related thing. Army was doing all these things even before PTI was launched by them. Alpha Bravo Charlie jab bana tha tab IK ko 1 seat bhi nahi milti thi.

Look man, I am not some pure civilian PTI-supporter. I have friends and relatives in the military branches too. I know what their job is and what they're supposed to do. WO KHUD TANG HAY! The Venn Diagram overlap you speak of has become larger and larger. Even PAF is not safe from it now.



And when this overlap increases, do you know what the real loser is? Effectiveness and professionalism. Fighting ability, decision making. Half the military resources diverted to political games. Iss me kisko faida hora hay exactly? Kyu nahi delegation hori tasks ki institution wise? Why does one institution need to grab everything? Mene apni aankho se dekha hay, Corps Commander Lahore holding meeting in middle of day to sort out of issues of plots in new phases of DHA. What was his Indian counterpart doing at the same exact hour I wonder? Probably thinking about killing his enemies.

I know that Defence.PK is an Army-first forum but people need to decide. Is it Pakistan they love or the Army? Are they aware that Army is just one aspect of what makes a nation?

Many countries have soldiers willing to die for it to the last man. Only a handful have soldiers who say let me rule the country as well and they're all shitholes. Its simple math.

Then we get fed this propaganda that every civilian is anti-state and only Faujis are sincere to country. It is ridiculous and unfair.

 

[Forsvaret]

Many countries have soldiers willing to die for it to the last man. Only a handful have soldiers who say let me rule the country as well and they're all shitholes. Its simple math.

Cannot be said better.

 

[Meengla]

Are you really telling us that Pakistan's base is so shallow that a mere institution holds it together and otherwise it'd disintegrate?
Is this the new faujew chooran? Scare us that Pakistan is so fragile?

Yes, Pakistan is very fragile. Too fragile for any political party to hold it together. And the Pakistani military, which has the ethnic representations from all of Pakistanis and the military which comes from mostly poorer segments of the society, is the one and only line of defense for Pakistan.
I will never be influenced by the likes of the Sharifs, the Bhuttos and the Imran Cultists to lose the importance of the Pakistani military. BTW, like most Karachiites, I am not at all affiliated with the Pakistan military; we are mostly merchants, traders, businessmen.