Russia Defense .net forum shut down by hosting company

[PK781]

You guys can create a 2nd home/forum here, and post easily.
I'm sure pdf can benefit from the rdf members.

More will come when they search for any decent forums and will ultimately reach here and join you guys. Until then, there's plenty going on to keeper you guys busy and buzzing

 

[Zhuge Liang]

You guys can create a 2nd home/forum here, and post easily.
I'm sure pdf can benefit from the rdf members.

More will come when they search for any decent forums and will ultimately reach here and join you guys. Until then, there's plenty going on to keeper you guys busy and buzzing

Some of the more "substantive" posts I reported (PDF mods can delete them if they break the rules) and I guess it's those posts Arrow meant - it's undoubtedly brilliant geopolitical analysis that gravely threatened western hegemony over the world. /s

All from the "Decline of western society 3" thread in General Chat. The forum is gone but at least some of them should still show up in Google Search if you copypaste them in quotation marks with russiadefence.net added

User: lyle6
Text:
(About non white immigrants in Europe): "Horrifying. Lots of subhumans have to die. Their families too. Then scour their homelands clean with atomic hellfire and virus and baculli."

User: kvs (response to the post above)
Text: "Running the rats to the sea in U-rope is the proper response. The trash would not have mattered if it stayed at home. Interesting how the western decider trash imports other trash from around the world. Birds of a feather, flock together."

User: lyle6
"Text (in response to my argument that the Irish and Italians had once been considered racially inferior but then gradually became accepted and became a normal part of US society): "Except Irish and Italians are not subhuman scum like pakis are. Seriously. Even for subhumans these pakis are just particularly nasty vermin. Where have you seen such a community that every male present can be relied upon to rape and not even one will object? Even for Filipino subhumans, this is far and beyond. You know what we do with rapists and pedophiles? We fucking lynch the motherfuckers on the street. The entire hood will gang up with gusto just to get a piece of the animal with zero remorse.

User: kvs, response to the post above by lyle6
Text: "I think India and Pakistan are just too large to have the trash that migrates to "greener pastures" be used as representative samples.
From the trash heading to Kanada it is clear that there is a certain political aspect to the migrants. Assorted local malcontents fighting
for some "homeland" is what settles here. This is a consistent pattern for Kanada. It hosted the Banderites after WWII, the Sikh Kalistanins,
the Tamil Tigers and assorted other ISIS/Daesh types.

The trash Kanada imports will do it in. The Banderites were actually able to contribute to Kanadian society. The more recent crop of
militants not so much. We have an emerging ethnic mafia problem in Kanada. And these newcomer mafias do not like the original population.
This tells you something about the deciders who are arranging for the tash flux into the country. Since the 1970s and before the focus is
on importing fully disjoint ethnics. There was and remains outright discrimination against indigenous Europeans. People with a compatible
culture and merit are apparently not needed. But criminals and functional morons are prime material.

The current trash flux is not experiencing the discrimination of the Irish and the Italians from 100 years ago and before. They are being
coddled and promoted, at the expense of non-migrants. I am sure we will hear pooh-poohing from the PC police officer posting here,
but look up what these migrants get paid by the grubbermint to "integrate" them in society. They get housing and free appliances. No
European immigrants ever got such treatment. "

 

[Arrow]

Some of the more "substantive" posts I reported (PDF mods can delete them if they break the rules) and I guess it's those posts Arrow meant - it's undoubtedly brilliant geopolitical analysis that gravely threatened western hegemony over the world. /s

All from the "Decline of western society 3" thread in General Chat. The forum is gone but at least some of them should still show up in Google Search if you copypaste them in quotation marks with russiadefence.net added

User: lyle6
Text:
(About non white immigrants in Europe): "Horrifying. Lots of subhumans have to die. Their families too. Then scour their homelands clean with atomic hellfire and virus and baculli."

User: kvs (response to the post above)
Text: "Running the rats to the sea in U-rope is the proper response. The trash would not have mattered if it stayed at home. Interesting how the western decider trash imports other trash from around the world. Birds of a feather, flock together."

User: lyle6
"Text (in response to my argument that the Irish and Italians had once been considered racially inferior but then gradually became accepted and became a normal part of US society): "Except Irish and Italians are not subhuman scum like pakis are. Seriously. Even for subhumans these pakis are just particularly nasty vermin. Where have you seen such a community that every male present can be relied upon to rape and not even one will object? Even for Filipino subhumans, this is far and beyond. You know what we do with rapists and pedophiles? We fucking lynch the motherfuckers on the street. The entire hood will gang up with gusto just to get a piece of the animal with zero remorse.

User: kvs, response to the post above by lyle6
Text: "I think India and Pakistan are just too large to have the trash that migrates to "greener pastures" be used as representative samples.
From the trash heading to Kanada it is clear that there is a certain political aspect to the migrants. Assorted local malcontents fighting
for some "homeland" is what settles here. This is a consistent pattern for Kanada. It hosted the Banderites after WWII, the Sikh Kalistanins,
the Tamil Tigers and assorted other ISIS/Daesh types.

The trash Kanada imports will do it in. The Banderites were actually able to contribute to Kanadian society. The more recent crop of
militants not so much. We have an emerging ethnic mafia problem in Kanada. And these newcomer mafias do not like the original population.
This tells you something about the deciders who are arranging for the tash flux into the country. Since the 1970s and before the focus is
on importing fully disjoint ethnics. There was and remains outright discrimination against indigenous Europeans. People with a compatible
culture and merit are apparently not needed. But criminals and functional morons are prime material.

The current trash flux is not experiencing the discrimination of the Irish and the Italians from 100 years ago and before. They are being
coddled and promoted, at the expense of non-migrants. I am sure we will hear pooh-poohing from the PC police officer posting here,
but look up what these migrants get paid

I never engaged in those kinds of conversations. I was more interested in substantive discussions about equipment, geopolitics, and the like—topics where the level of discourse was very high. The forum had plenty of other interesting threads.

 

[Zhuge Liang]

I never engaged in those kinds of conversations. I was more interested in substantive discussions about equipment, geopolitics, and the like—topics where the level of discourse was very high. The forum had plenty of other interesting threads.

You can stay here, there is a ton of talk about everything military- and geopolitics-related, including a large thread about the Ukraine war and several ones about the Russian military.

 

[Zhuge Liang]

@Arrow, @ucmvulcan

Garry posted on the Forumotion Support Forum asking for data export, they told him the ban is final and it won't be reversed: https://help.forumotion.com/t165092-recover-web-forum-for-personal-reasons

He seems completely incapable of understanding what hate speech and incitement are, he thinks it's about bad language and protecting children from profanity.

He also said he isn't a forum creator type and has no plans to create another forum.

You guys might want to contact him (he shows up among the users logged in over the last 24h) if you want to but I think you'll have to create a new forum by youreelves. There are several hosts that offer free forums.

 

[LarsFrost]

Agree 100%, but why does my antagonist get to repeat his accusations while my responses are erased from the record?

Is it a violation of TOS to forcefully respond to falsehoods and slander?

This "person" betrayed us all and robbed us of a place that many of us cherished and valued. Now he sits on a perch and repeats his venom to a new audience who knows no better, while those who attempt to call him out and correct the record are silenced.

Forgive me pls for being rather unsatisfied by this arrangement.

I'm done now, and will move on.

I just don't have it in me to post on the same forum as the person who deliberately destroyed RDF either. GarryB will have to keep track of IP addresses and make sure he never gets into the future forum. Even with him blocked , i just can't do it. Every time I see his name , my blood boils

 

[Zhuge Liang]

@LarsFrost
Listen dude, I am not planning to be a member of whatever forum you create, I have better online places to be a part of. I reported obvious bigotry to the host (samples are provided here) and instead of having problems with the users who posted it, you have problems with me, with several users on RDF engaging in verbal aggression and shaming attempts aimed at me, with admin publishing my IP, ISP provider and city in public. I don't think a community acting in good faith behaves like this.

 

[KAL-EL]

As a complete outsider to this situation, I'm trying to understand what happened and why there are such hard feelings about it

 

[Trailer23]

The possible deletion reasons are as following :

• Violent or repulsive content
• Hateful or abusive content
• Defamatory content and / or affecting the integrity of a person
• Sexual and/or pornographic content
• Harmful and dangerous acts
• Copyright infringment
• Spam
• Phishing and/ or malware website
• Credit card fraud
• Hacking

Just don't bring that crap over here...

...wait...what...

Credit Card fraud.

The f#*k were ya'll doin' over there?

 

[Zhuge Liang]

@KAL-EL
You can send a PM to me if you can and want to. I don't want to discuss the situation in public anymore.

 

[LarsFrost]

As a complete outsider to this situation, I'm trying to understand what happened and why there are such hard feelings about it

A psychopath cherry picked every bad word or indiscretion written on a 15 year old forum and reported it to the hosting service until the hosting service shut the forum down.

 

[Arrow]

A psychopath cherry picked every bad word or indiscretion written on a 15 year old forum and reported it to the hosting service until the hosting service shut the forum down.

It’s a shame that a single person can destroy a forum that’s been around for 15 years. Thousands of interesting discussions, pieces of information, and analyses—all tossed in the trash in an instant. The Forumotion administration is incredibly stubborn and set in their ways, too.

 

[Rodion Romanovic]

Hi Kal-el,

Basically there were some posts by some users that were not acceptable (the one mentioned by user "Zhuge Liang") because of hate speech or similar.

Possibly he raised the issue with the mod/admin who warned said users and asked them to moderate their tones, but in some occasions they continued.

For personal attacks against each other some of the users were temporarily banned, but apart from that the admin tried to avoid being too strong on the penalties (the only user I remember was perma banned was one that was temporarily banned and after coming back he started again with personal attacks and insults against other users and the admin/mod).

User Zhuge Liang (who, in the Russia defence forum I believe had the user ID "Walter Von Odenburg") could have also raised the issue in a new topic and communicated that he would have needed to report the violation in case of lack of action, instead of just doing that.

Then a few months ago Walther Von Odenburg reported many of the posts he perceived as a violation to the hosting provider, than changed his user ID to "Marshal Rokossovsky" and continued to post for a while.

For a while he seemed also reasonable and continued in some of the conversation, then a few days before the forum was cancelled, he cancelled his account (so his posts also disappeared from the forum, and he could not be hold accountable for his answers).

I agree that some of the posts he reported as a violation were not acceptable, but I believe there should have been a better way to solve the situation instead of destroying the forum.

Possibly the Admin should have been more strict with some of the outburst of some of the problematic users, but he was also overwhelmed (there was another mod, but was not active in the last few months, and before the forum was cancelled there were discussions to nominate an additional moderator to help the admin).

Furthermore it felt almost absurd that after the original reports a few months ago he stayed in the forum and engaged in conversation and then from a day to the other cancelled everything as if to destroy evidences of his own answers.

Honestly I also do not feel comfortable to engage in further conversations with user Zhuge Liang/Marshall Rokossovsky/Walther Von Odenburg.

P.S.
It is a pity because the forum was around for a long time (and myself I was a user for almost 11 years), and the original founder/admin was a former Russian special forces officer who got a degenerative disease a few years ago, when he transferred control to the new admin.

P.P.S.
It is my first post in this forum, are there rules about introducing ourselves in a specific thread?

 

[KAL-EL]

Hi Kal-el,

Basically there were some posts by some users that were not acceptable (the one mentioned by user "Zhuge Liang") because of hate speech or similar.

Possibly he raised the issue with the mod/admin who warned said users and asked them to moderate their tones, but in some occasions they continued.

For personal attacks against each other some of the users were temporarily banned, but apart from that the admin tried to avoid being too strong on the penalties (the only user I remember was perma banned was one that was temporarily banned and after coming back he started again with personal attacks and insults against other users and the admin/mod).

User Zhuge Liang (who, in the Russia defence forum I believe had the user ID "Walter Von Odenburg") could have also raised the issue in a new topic and communicated that he would have needed to report the violation in case of lack of action, instead of just doing that.

Then a few months ago Walther Von Odenburg reported many of the posts he perceived as a violation to the hosting provider, than changed his user ID to "Marshal Rokossovsky" and continued to post for a while.

For a while he seemed also reasonable and continued in some of the conversation, then a few days before the forum was cancelled, he cancelled his account (so his posts also disappeared from the forum, and he could not be hold accountable for his answers).

I agree that some of the posts he reported as a violation were not acceptable, but I believe there should have been a better way to solve the situation instead of destroying the forum.

Possibly the Admin should have been more strict with some of the outburst of some of the problematic users, but he was also overwhelmed (there was another mod, but was not active in the last few months, and before the forum was cancelled there were discussions to nominate an additional moderator to help the admin).

Furthermore it felt almost absurd that after the original reports a few months ago he stayed in the forum and engaged in conversation and then from a day to the other cancelled everything as if to destroy evidences of his own answers.

Honestly I also do not feel comfortable to engage in further conversations with user Zhuge Liang/Marshall Rokossovsky/Walther Von Odenburg.

P.S.
It is a pity because the forum was around for a long time (and myself I was a user for almost 11 years), and the original founder/admin was a former Russian special forces officer who got a degenerative disease a few years ago, when he transferred control to the new admin.

P.P.S.
It is my first post in this forum, are there rules about introducing ourselves in a specific thread?

Hello and thank you for the long explanation.

As for the rules regarding newcomers. You don't have to post in a specific thread to introduce yourself.

There is a thread in the members section for people to do that. It's optional.

But I will take the opportunity here to welcome you to The forum. We have members from just about all cultures and ethnicities who are members here.

 

[Arrow]

Hi Kal-el,

Basically there were some posts by some users that were not acceptable (the one mentioned by user "Zhuge Liang") because of hate speech or similar.

Possibly he raised the issue with the mod/admin who warned said users and asked them to moderate their tones, but in some occasions they continued.

For personal attacks against each other some of the users were temporarily banned, but apart from that the admin tried to avoid being too strong on the penalties (the only user I remember was perma banned was one that was temporarily banned and after coming back he started again with personal attacks and insults against other users and the admin/mod).

User Zhuge Liang (who, in the Russia defence forum I believe had the user ID "Walter Von Odenburg") could have also raised the issue in a new topic and communicated that he would have needed to report the violation in case of lack of action, instead of just doing that.

Then a few months ago Walther Von Odenburg reported many of the posts he perceived as a violation to the hosting provider, than changed his user ID to "Marshal Rokossovsky" and continued to post for a while.

For a while he seemed also reasonable and continued in some of the conversation, then a few days before the forum was cancelled, he cancelled his account (so his posts also disappeared from the forum, and he could not be hold accountable for his answers).

I agree that some of the posts he reported as a violation were not acceptable, but I believe there should have been a better way to solve the situation instead of destroying the forum.

Possibly the Admin should have been more strict with some of the outburst of some of the problematic users, but he was also overwhelmed (there was another mod, but was not active in the last few months, and before the forum was cancelled there were discussions to nominate an additional moderator to help the admin).

Furthermore it felt almost absurd that after the original reports a few months ago he stayed in the forum and engaged in conversation and then from a day to the other cancelled everything as if to destroy evidences of his own answers.

Honestly I also do not feel comfortable to engage in further conversations with user Zhuge Liang/Marshall Rokossovsky/Walther Von Odenburg.

P.S.
It is a pity because the forum was around for a long time (and myself I was a user for almost 11 years), and the original founder/admin was a former Russian special forces officer who got a degenerative disease a few years ago, when he transferred control to the new admin.

P.P.S.
It is my first post in this forum, are there rules about introducing ourselves in a specific thread?

Welcome, Rodion—another castaway from RDF. GarryB is going to try to revive the forum in some form.